A 57 year old man has been charged with killing his daughter, son-in-law, 3 year old Grandson and 5 month unborn grandchild. The crime of his daughter was that she married without her father's consent.. And no, the killer wasn't an Islamic maniac. The killer father is an Indian named, Subhash Chander. He told police that he was upset with his daughter and son-in-law because they married without his consent and he considered his son-in-law to be from a 'lower caste'. And the worst thing is, This happened in the USA. Chander's sister said it was not true. She said the family, which hailed from Chandigarh, accepted the marriage and that the caste system was not a factor to the family at all. Article link: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...t_daughter_her_family/articleshow/2667859.cms Okay, to all the fathers in the world who are 'upset' because their daughters fell in love with the 'wrong' guys - 'Sir, if you are so upset that you want to kill your daughter, please take a gun, point it to your head and pull the trigger. Yes, shoot, kill yourself before you kill someone else. You will be less hated."
Well, It had nothing to do with the 'Religion of peace'. The killer wasn't a Muslim. I suspect he was a Hindu. The caste system is a cancer, We need to get rid of it.
Umm....I think you need to double check my post...I never said anything about Islam...I have always thought that the Hindu religion was pretty peaceful.....whos the idiot? never said it had anything to do with the "religion of peace"....I said that I always thought it was a religion of peace...go back and read my post.
Gandhi did a lot of work dismantling the caste system but I guess it was hundreds of centuries of belief, it takes time for it to disappear. I guess as India progresses and the proportion of middle class increases we will be seeing the demise of the caste system.
There are untouchables everywhere. I come from a background, to some extent, of Japanese zen buddhist practice. Lookup the eta in Japan, the Burakumin: Traditionally, outcasts who dealt with the occupations considered "unclean" by buddhist standards - butchers, fishermen, etc., were "untouchable" because they dealt in death of sentient beings. Yet the lay zen practitioners were, and are, only too happy to consume animal flesh. Hypocrisy, and a shameful thing that is kept under cover. The same hypocrisy according to religion and one's occupation is found in Korea, India and Nepal, and, though not relating to religion, in the shameful history of the Tinkers of Ireland and Great Britain.
The guy was pissed off because his daughter married someone prom a lower ranking class NOT because of his religion! Some people are just plain stupid!!! To The Webmaster, you should read the story before you post BS threads!!!
You should really calm down, Seo (no amount of exclamation points will strengthen your argument), because you have betrayed a bit of ignorance. It isn't "class," but "caste" that is at issue. And "caste" is very much a religious issue among traditional Hindus - whether or not it is specifically and explicitly even sanctioned within hinduism and its sacred texts and teachings. Caste Definitions In fact, class is distinguishable from caste.
I apologize, I mistook your post. The thing is Caste system is not an original Hindu practice, it came later in the middle age, when Brahmans started to divide the society between different castes to create their supremacy. We need to dump it now, its a cancer to the society. It gives nothing positive to the society, nothing at all.. dude, Whatever your name is, you need to read a bit slow and think even slower before making a post, that unless you are determined to make yourself look like a fool. First I suggest you to read the article, for your convenience I quote extracts from the article. (Bolded and emphasized for your convenience) Now, point me to the line/para/post where I ever claimed that he killed his daughter, son-in-law and grandchildren because of religion. Do that or apologize for making an attacking posts without getting the facts straight.
How is one supposed to read into this title??? " Yet another honor Killing...." Looking at most your threads and posts you seem keen on trying to ALWAYS make a connection between muslims and violence. You are playing to the hands of the neo-cons and trying to paint this picture that we should all be affraid of muslims as they are dangerous people, where in turn people like you are more dangerous and scared of your own shadow. Paranoia has taken over your life and that of some other members in this forum that try to pin everything on muslims. Should I start threads for every Christian that murders every single day in this country and try to paint a picture that they are ALL violent people? Don't you see you are all brainwashed with fear and really falling for the BS that the government is feeding you. Articles like this try to attack your subconscious level and instill fear in you and try to make you think that ALL muslims are violent people and ready to commit murder in a heart beat. I'm off this stupid thread, you can all continue to live in fear and paranoia.
Gosh, why are you so anti-Muslims? I suggested you to read slow dude... but it's okay. I understand.. It's called paranoia... I know some of the people believe honor killing is a Muslim exclusive, It's called ignorance, and you are one of them. I don't think fellow Muslim members around here gonna like you very much... Perhaps, if you were able to read and comprehend at the same time, you would know that I made clear in the first post that the killer father was not a Muslim. But again online, just like everywhere else, I need to deal with all kind of people. People with high IQ like northpointtaiki. and people with average IQ, and people with low IQ, and people with extremely low IQ. You and few others are just paranoid angry men, who believe online swearing will start a revolution. Dude, I made this thread to let people know, people like you who think honor killing is a Islam exclusive, that honor killing is not bounded with the Muslim world only. But I reckon it's too thick to get in your head, perhaps. And ohh, I give a big fucking damn if you start, rant, shout anti-Christian blabber. I'm least concerned and bothered.
I need to apologize as well, as I spoke from a position of relative ignorance. I have done some reading to see how deeply woven into subcontinent India the practice is, as a social phenomenon, and how it clearly isn't limited to Hindus. My mistake, and apologies.
The other religions that are in India are pretty interesting. My favorite is the Sikhs. I have a friend who's family is from the punjab region...wonderful folks.
d16, I'm sorry, but in my opinion, you really aren't being very honest. You wrote "the religion of peace," not "a religion of peace," and based on your past opinions, it seems pretty clear you very much meant Islam, as that term is the term you have singly used in referring to Islam: -Etc. Feel free to tell me to fuck off, of course. But if it is the case, and you aren't being honest here, I personally think that it would do you some good to admit to it and move on. I have many sikh friends as well. Interesting culture.
I did write "a religion of peace" go back and read my UNEDITED post, I think I know what I wrote.......as I said, I was referring NOT to Islam, but to the hindu religion, which despite the Caste system, I have always considered to be a peaceful religion. Here, I even quoted myself...again, this post is UNEDITED and I know what I wrote:
You also used the term to refer to Islam, d16. I think the point is evident. If I'm wrong, I apologize to you as well, and if I'm right, you will need to look to your heart, not me. You have never used the term in your history here except to refer to Islam.
I have used the term to refer to Islam as THE religion of peace...but in this case I did not write THE, I wrote A. So, yes, you are wrong in this case, apology accepted. In terms of the history, I have never had a reason to use it with other than islam....you could use that phrase about any religion as well, whether it be sikhism, hinudism, christianity, etc. In this case, I was referring to hinduism, which I have previously pointed out.