Hi Everyone I'm a relatively new DP member, I've been doing organic "on page" SEO successfully for years, Thing is, all my sites have always been long standing & had good link populatiry, so I've had an easy time of it. Now I have some new sites & I need to increase the google PR, I'm getting top 10's for none competitive kw's, but the ones I really need top ranking for, I'm no where, because there are lots of sites there with PR3 & 4. I know I need to get links in, and I'm working on this, and in the longterm I will have a good number of incoming links from very ke relevant sites. Thing is I need to increase PR yesterday, so I figued I could cheat & pay for high PR links in as a short term measure. So I did this, for one site I bought a few PR3,s 4 & 5's, and for the other site I bought some PR5's and a PR8. Singloe links only not sitewide. Result: 1 site - no change, still PR2 the other site, with the PR8 & PR5s, dropped from PR3 down to PR2! The thing is though, I bought these links 3-4 weeks ago, and when I search for the links on google, google can't find them, yet I have seen that they are there on the page. So what's happening here folks? Is it just that google hasn't re-spidered the page with my new incoming links on yet - or is it that these links in won't do any good because they're npt keyword relevant? I would very much appreciate any advice Thanks Kev
Seems like you are confusing the Green Google PageRank with actuallu Search Engine Result Pages Ranking. They are far from the same and not necessarily related (directly). The only way to increase the green bar is to get more links to your pages you want to increase PR of.
Hi there LOL, nope I'm not confusing SERP with PR, what I was saying is that increased links wasn't effecting PR, now I understand from a PM, that this is because google only update the PR toolbar with the new data every few months... ahhhhhhhh the penny drops Thanks a lot Kev
The toolbar you see on your browser only updates every few months. It last updated about 3 months ago and is expected to update within the next two weeks (although no one knows for sure exactly when).
I think it is key to have patience when attempting to increase your page rank. Sometimes it has taken over four months for me to spot any benefit from having multiple new inbound links (even from higher ranking sites!).
Not necessarily. I see an intangible, indirect, but still important relationship between PR and traffic — the higher your PR, the more likely other sites will choose to link to you. And the increasing number of links will bring more traffic.
This is true but only while people still have faith in PR. If nobody cares about PR then it will not increase your traffic one bit!
I have never fully understood the importance of these things, except insofar as I understand a higher PR value with Google gives you a better chance of ranking higher in the page results than would otherwise be the case. My oldest site is almost 10 years old and has a PR of 6. The second oldest is PR 5. The third oldest is PR 4. The youngest -- all less than 60 days old and one only a day old -- are PR zero. For terms that I consider important for my oldest site, I do get listed a lot on the first page of Google results, and fairly often first. The other two ranked sites do not normally get this kind of result -- but they get a fair amount of traffic in their niches. But, I produce a tremendous amount of original content (for the main sites). I have backed this up by providing ways for people to use my headlines on their sites. But, I display the artcle if they use my headlines for free. If they pay, they can display the article on their page template. Most like the free option. This has helped get my sites into more places in their niche, helping generate traffic, and perhaps contributing to an improved PR value. But, the interest expressed has more to do with I offer in terms of content than PR. However, if PR gets me ranked higher, then it helps with my viral marketing, which helps create the customers I need for daily living.
You might want to take a look at this if that is your oppinion...i am sure you will realize PR is important. http://www.google.com/corporate/tech.html Quote from above link: Technology Overview The software behind Google's search technology conducts a series of simultaneous calculations requiring only a fraction of a second. Traditional search engines rely heavily on how often a word appears on a web page. Google uses PageRankâ„¢ to examine the entire link structure of the web and determine which pages are most important. It then conducts hypertext-matching analysis to determine which pages are relevant to the specific search being conducted. By combining overall importance and query-specific relevance, Google is able to put the most relevant and reliable results first. PageRank Technology: PageRank performs an objective measurement of the importance of web pages by solving an equation of more than 500 million variables and 2 billion terms. Instead of counting direct links, PageRank interprets a link from Page A to Page B as a vote for Page B by Page A. PageRank then assesses a page's importance by the number of votes it receives. PageRank also considers the importance of each page that casts a vote, as votes from some pages are considered to have greater value, thus giving the linked page greater value. Important pages receive a higher PageRank and appear at the top of the search results. Google's technology uses the collective intelligence of the web to determine a page's importance. There is no human involvement or manipulation of results, which is why users have come to trust Google as a source of objective information untainted by paid placement. Hypertext-Matching Analysis: Google's search engine also analyzes page content. However, instead of simply scanning for page-based text (which can be manipulated by site publishers through meta-tags), Google's technology analyzes the full content of a page and factors in fonts, subdivisions and the precise location of each word. Google also analyzes the content of neighboring web pages to ensure the results returned are the most relevant to a user's query. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- You see that Pagerank is important overall to get better SERPS and if you get better SERPS you will get without a doubt more traffic. People will find you if you appear in the results and if you no where near the results that come up for your keywords that you are targeting then it's more likely that you will not recieve any search engine traffic. Pagerank does play an important part and does have impact in traffic