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Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Pinup Girl, Dec 21, 2007.

  1. northpointaiki

    northpointaiki Guest

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    #141
    I better understand now the scenario you are talking about, but it better makes my point, actually. Yep, I agree with you - if you are inciting to violence, and nothing else, you are actively involved in the attack. And raising the defense of free speech will fail, because the speech isn't protected. This was my point.

    I accept your point 1.

    Your points 2-3 above tell me we really are debating semantics, I guess. The court has ruled "speech" to mean a host of things that many would not consider "speech," such as gestures, etc. I don't really see a difference between telling a crowd to commit violence, and telling an individual to do the same. It's all incitement. Defenses raised, in either case, often go to free speech, which in both cases, fail.
     
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  2. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #142
    If someone tells a crowd, go out and kill 'blacks' for instance I would not see that as trully a speech issue either. That to me is nothing more than a general telling his troops to go kill someone, it is not the speech itself that is illegal but what you are telling people to commit.

    I think we are on the same page, just seeing things a bit differently ;)
     
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  3. northpointaiki

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    #143
    Yep, I think so too. Maybe it all comes down to some kind of common understanding in order to litigate the issue, since the courts have always classified the above as (unprotected) speech. The tree sitting protests, for example, have been classified as "speech."

    Interesting discussion on this, regarding private events and "free" speech issue - the Phelps "God hates Fags" funeral protest:

    http://www.watchblog.com/thirdparty/archives/005614.html
     
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  4. Briant

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  5. Grafstein

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    #145
    This is all we need, a n00bish nazi telling us about life.
    Its sad to see these sad nazis still living in the past.
    Nazi's are also the most feeble bunch,hiding behind a computer screen writing hate.
    I would like to see them start on me or my bro!
    We would be classified as aryans!
     
    Grafstein, Dec 22, 2007 IP
  6. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #146
    The Allies defeated the Nazis, if Nazis are a superior race, what do you call the Allies :)
     
    wisdomtool, Dec 22, 2007 IP
  7. Grafstein

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    #147
    lol yea-nazis run shit websites so they come on dp to get more traffic.
    While there here they scout out all the black and jewish members and try leaving negative rep.
    N00bs lol
     
    Grafstein, Dec 22, 2007 IP
  8. GRIM

    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #148
    You do know 'Nazi' is not a race do you not?
     
    GRIM, Dec 22, 2007 IP
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    #149
    I agree,They believed in there aryan nonsense however,supported by antisemetic rhetoric.
     
    Grafstein, Dec 22, 2007 IP
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    #150
    I believe it should be banned because it bring on racial hatred which excites terrorism!
     
    chriswick, Dec 22, 2007 IP
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    #151
    Terrorism might be a bit far, although it incites crimes..
     
    techblog, Dec 22, 2007 IP
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    #152
    Not all Terrorism excited by religion.
     
    chriswick, Dec 22, 2007 IP
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    #153
    my haircut incites terrorism, put it in jail!
     
    ncz_nate, Dec 22, 2007 IP