7 Reasons Why America is hated in the Middle-east...

1) The Eisenhower administration's CIA brought down a popular representative government in Iran, in 1953, because Mosaddeq, the prime minister, wanted to nationalise Iran's oil. America installed, nurtured, cradled, and propped the Shah for the next 25 years no matter how dictatorial and oppressive he became. This behavior, of course, led to the bloody Islamic revolution in Iran. You have to SAY this, and to put the blame where it belongs: OUR CIA, and OUR foreign policy. Show us that you are a free press, and not the propaganda division of the US government.

2) Saddam Hussein is another CIA creation. We call him a 'Hitler' now, but he comes with a "Made in America" label stamped on the back of his neck. He was our man even before he rose to power, and we encouraged him to wage a bloody war against Iran over a few square meters of real-estate. We needed to hit Iran hard, thru Iraq, because Iran had become dangerously anti-American because...uh huh...you begin to see the problem.

3) Saddam thought he had our blessing for everything. We had never stopped him before (not even when he used chemical weapons against his own population), and we had been supplying him with weapons. That is why he attacked Kuwait, the deliverance of which cost American lives.

4)Afghanistan started talking about a holy war against the Soviet imperialists, the CIA thought, "Great! Let's get this started and launch millions of Muslims against our Cold War opponents." So we fostered, encouraged, and funded this holy war of the mujahideen. Osama bin Laden was our ally, spending his own money and organizing people on the ground, as well as bringing them from all parts of the Islamic world. WE built the network that is bin Laden's Al Qaeda.

5) When it became necessary to deliver Kuwait from OUR violent protegé Saddam Hussein, American troops were stationed in Saudi Arabia, bin Laden's homeland. But they never left, and this is holy soil. This insult is added to the fact that we had been supporting the royal family there for long even though they run the country in dictatorial fashion and are widely hated. That is what made bin Laden our enemy. We had already built him up into a powerful warlord, and now he had gotten out of control. Sounds like Saddam? Yes it does.


6) When the Islamic party in Algeria won in fair and free elections, we supported the violent crackdown of the military because, it was said, the Islamicists would abolish democracy. So we made sure it was abolished before the Islamicists had a chance to try. It is hard to convey just how bloody the rampages that followed have been. Many of these were carried out by the CIA (thought responsible for the massacres of tens of thousands of civilians), a group led by veterans of the Afghan war and trained by bin Laden's network It is hard to believe that the Islamicists would have been worse. But we will never know, because America hates democratic outcomes. What it likes is tin-pot dictators that are obliged in clientship relationships to the United States. Of course, this is very dangerous. But it keeps happening because what each President keeps thinking about is the next election, not long-term outcomes, and Americans don't read History.

7) Finally, we have been supporting Israel since its inception, even though it is a state born of terrorist violence, and even though its abuses have been many. Menachem Begin, one of the first prime-ministers of Israel, used to be a wanted terrorist with a bounty on his head. But who knows this? Do you? Americans don't read history. They are not interested. YOU MUST BRING THIS UP. The Palestinians are guilty of crimes as well, but we have never shown an even hand in the region: we mostly condemn the crimes of the Palestinians, the crimes of the weak. We have been Israel's unconditional allies.

 

Oh great, another why I hate America thread...

 

I don't think it is America per se, just the utter corrupt scumbags that have been running America for years.

 

And count on AGS to be on it like a shit on fly.

Gauharjk, like Grab, you are cutting and pasting without providing your source. It can be construed, by some, that you are attempting to come off more informed than you actually are (will be seen by some as posing the post in your words, when they're not), and it also doesn't allow for cross-checking sources readily. Just a request, of course, but as as fellow member, may I ask you don't do this?

For those interested,

http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0109/S00196.htm

Professor Francisco Gil-White is the author. He is known for many controversial views, including a theory that the PLO traces its roots to Nazi Germany's holocaust:

Gil-White on Link between Palestinian Movement and Nazi Germany

It was this latter view, many (including himself) believe, that led to his being fired from UPenn.

I agree with many of his facts, though not all conclusions drawn from them. The drag is that international politics are messy, and no perfect solution has yet been created. Dogs today are dukes tomorrow, and the reverse holds true, and this has been the case since the inception of realpolitik and a modern era of imperial powers vying for global spheres of influence. I have said it before - most telling to me was that at the eve of the Iranian revolution, with a million messages scrambling among State Department staff, there wasn't a single person on hand who spoke and could translate farsi. Only an emblem, but telling.

 

Corrupt scumbags are in no way unique to America. They are all over the world.

 

It's actually "on it like flies around shit" mate.

It's not my fault that your corrupt administration is hell bent on f**king up the world.

 

I agree, the UN is at the heart of corruption.

 

Not in your case, "mate." Not exactly a slip of the click, know what I mean?

 

Yeah. Lets blame the UN. Bad bad UN! I subscribed to your blog. I am getting my daily dose of weather.

 

i don't have the time right now to lay out the facts to back up my statement, but i know those who crave the truth will come to the same conclusion as I. There is no "new" world order, it's already here. Everything you hear on the news is just distractions from the truth. if you are a human being, who breathes and consumes and competes for the same resources as the global elites, yes you should fear the UN.




and thanks for subscribing to my blog

just like ron paul, those who discover it - love it. i may have to simmer down to 2 posts a week though until i have the money to market this.

 

I don't think it is a "Why I hate America" thread.

It's a "Why other people outside America, hate America" thread.

The problem with trying to learn, is that these days, we so quickly want to dismiss or endorse, without having the debate to achieve some intellectual honesty.

There are people outside America who hate America. I think we can all agree on that.

Some people believe there are a lot of these people who hate America, and use it as a rationale for war. So, for several regulars in this forum, the "hate group" is of a significant size or power.

So with that base to work from, let's have the debate. Why do our enemies hate us?

 

Gauharjk just cut and pasted the big 7 reasons. Scroll up

 

Thanks for finding the source. I found it on a forum, and it just clicked my heart. No source was mentioned. I believe it is pretty accurate.

Everyone knows what US "administrations" have done over the years. People here believe US is the Greatest thread to World Peace - http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=551971
That is why people see hope in Ron Paul. He can change this perception. He can bring about a revolution.

 

1-6 is old news. The only current issue you listed is Israel. Not trying to be rude, but are you supporting Ron Paul because you believe he will not support Israel?

 

What do you mean by "old news"?

Do you think 911 is OLD NEWS?

Ron Paul talks about blow-back. Thats what it is...

You don't have to single out a point. US has done many "911s" in many parts of the world.

All I wanted is to point out what many people feel is wrong with USA. It is rightly said "Most Americans don't read History"

 

What I mean by old news is old news. As in things that are not happening currently. The only thing you listed that is current is our support for Israel. Then you make a point about how Ron Paul can change things. That is what made me curious if that is why you are supporting him. I was just wondering...

 

Oh come on dude you can do better than that!

 

Because Gauhar is an Indian Muslim, probably migrated to USA (Or perhaps not).
I wonder why the hell did he write 'We' When referring to Americans.

 

Who cares? Don't like us? Defeat us already.

 

If it was worth it, yeah, I could, but the catnip grew stale quite some time ago.