Big disappointment in "made-for-adsense" websites

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by Freddy81, Dec 28, 2005.

  1. #1
    Hi guys,

    there is something to tell about developing websites...
    After six month of creating sites especially for adsense,
    I realized that this really sucks. I've gone through a common way -
    got content from other websites (reprint articles), generated pages from
    high-paying-keywords database and so on. But failed completely. Daily income
    from 15 sites was only 12-15 bucks - but with plenty of work made!

    Fortunatelly, all this time I was making an amateur site in the subject I was interested in - implementing of neural networks in control and measurement tasks. I was adding 1-2 pages per week, and was amazed - after 8 moths,
    I put adsense on it (1 small 234x60 per page), and this site now gives me 75 bucks a day! Why? Because it was written with interest, and for real people. Who come back again and read.

    Maybe for the majority of you it's pretty evident, but I must say:
    primary goal for creating a site should not be affiliate earnings!
     
    Freddy81, Dec 28, 2005 IP
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  2. CPW-Carl

    CPW-Carl Peon

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    I've always wondered about these made for AS sites, either using content from article sites or even content purchased here on DP. I always wonder about the duplicate content penalty, so I've just stayed away..
     
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  3. Dakait

    Dakait Banned

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    #3
    Google named it ADSENSE.....G can sense the the effectiveness of ads on site. Google is smart enough to calculate the benefit you are providing to publishers....i mean the kind of traffic you are delivering.

    You will earn in proportion to what you are giving to visitors and the publishers. ..... This is the thumb rule to get success in Adsense.
     
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  4. Chopster

    Chopster Peon

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    #4
    I've had the opposite effect, actually.
    Too many variables are involved. Content, traffic, ad placement, etc.

    As to getting back what you give. I think that might not always be the case, because I've noticed that if your site just teases the visitor with "some" info and not "all" info, then they are more likely to click ads to learn more on the topic.
     
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  5. Dakait

    Dakait Banned

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    This is what i mean.....giving back is in the sense "from publishers site" by diverting the visitor. :)
     
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  6. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    Freddy81:

    I concur. This matches with my experience.
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 28, 2005 IP
  7. xfairguy

    xfairguy Well-Known Member

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    On what topics are you made for adsense sites?
     
    xfairguy, Dec 28, 2005 IP
  8. Dakait

    Dakait Banned

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    #8
    Productivity of Adsense depend on following-

    Income Per AD= CPC x Fractional pay out x CTR x Page Traffic x Appearance Frequency.

    ( 5 Factors )

    If you can increase all or any of them....you will earn more. :)
     
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  9. Freddy81

    Freddy81 Well-Known Member

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    Classic spammy niches. Credit cards, loans, car loans etc.
     
    Freddy81, Dec 28, 2005 IP
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    ligel Guest

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    Uhh, there are lot of competition!
     
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    mmm.... I did a little site few weeks ago (about 2 weeks, not sure) and this site already does about $20 in adsense per day. This was pure site for adsense.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    I think that google will do some major house cleaning eventually and dump a lot of MFA sites from their listings along with cancelling some adsense accounts.

    With so many MFA sites coming up in the SERPS, I know it makes them look bad. So, I believe the sites with good content and returning visitors will be the ones that will stay.

    Advertisers like me will not use their contextual advertising because of the garbage that is out there. If you ask me it is just another form of spam in the search engines.

    I am sure I am stepping on some toes here. Some sites I have seen are way better than others, some are their to trick you in clicking the ads only and are useless to the user besides that.

    So take out some of the risk by making your sites more useful to the user and giving google no reason to kill your account.
     
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  13. xfairguy

    xfairguy Well-Known Member

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    That was my point, this information is everywhere.

    if you have some more knowledge like implementing of neural networks in control and measurement better go with that kind of websites.
     
    xfairguy, Dec 28, 2005 IP
  14. Chopster

    Chopster Peon

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    Still, the question remains. What is a "Made for Adsense Site".

    There's absolutely no way to know...unless the website has absolutely no content of any kind, except Adsense ads.
     
    Chopster, Dec 29, 2005 IP
  15. Freddy81

    Freddy81 Well-Known Member

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    I did not build this site for adsense - just for my own pleasure. And was really happy when someone reads my stuff.

    But what I really want to know - how do people profit from *crappy* websites with wikipedia content and some neat keywords like these:
    Data recovery
    Automation

    These guys compete in Google search for high-bidding terms. How do they make revenue if they pay so much for Adwords? A $2 click is never paid off even if they have amazing CTRs (7-10%).
     
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  16. Freddy81

    Freddy81 Well-Known Member

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    Hard to believe for me... only 2 weeks means that you must have ZERO traffic from search engines.
    If you rely on Google SERPs, you can not have any results until they let you out of the sand box (3 months at least).
     
    Freddy81, Dec 29, 2005 IP
  17. Makin_Coin

    Makin_Coin Guest

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    I have put together a site for adsense and it was only getting pennies per click.

    Anyone know if .org tld's net you less then the same site on a .com?
     
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    I spent months marketing a website that I was passionate about and only got pennies per click. It depends on the content, traffic, ad placement.

    As for .org tlds....what possible reason would Google pay you less for having a .org domain?
     
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  19. Rod

    Rod Well-Known Member

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    "Hard to believe for me... only 2 weeks means that you must have ZERO traffic from search engines. If you rely on Google SERPs, you can not have any results until they let you out of the sand box (3 months at least)."


    Have you heard of Adwords?
     
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  20. Phynder

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    Hey Freddy - would you mind telling us your site's URL? I am very interested in this field also.

    Certainly seems to make sense and maybe an indication of how flooded the "SPAMMY" markets are with, well... SPAM....
     
    Phynder, Dec 29, 2005 IP