The Real Cause of 911?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yo-yo, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #201
    Asking for photos would be good, except your savior the mayor, banned photos being taken. :D :p

     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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  3. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #203

    FROM YOUR CRUMMY SOURCE:
    They don't say anything about how MOLTEN STEEL dripping hot weeks after the collapse was found 7 levels below the buildings. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #204
    Do you think they should address it specifically? What bearing do you believe it would have? Who is the source for the claim? Read all nine pages. Read what is debunked.

     
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  5. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #205
    Of course they should addres it, it proves there were explosives in the building.

    The head of the clean ups, presidents of companies, firefighters, etc.

    I read the first pages of junk that didn't debunk anything then i stopped waisting my time.
     
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    #206
    The twin towers weren't built like any other sky scraper. The building was constructed from the inside out, instead of the outside in. This was done to accomodate more space, thus making it more valuable to the leasee.

    These cute little theories are baffling. I have relatives that watched flight 93 crash. The plane was fully inverted and came down at a gradual angle. It was not shot down. The plane that hit the pentagon was not a missle and didn't have a missle strapped to it.
     
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    #207
    Our government is capable of anything.. The Constitution and the Bill of Rights are pretty much worthless with the power of the Patriot Act. I could go either way on this one, but there sure are alot of strange facts to be looked at...

    Keep an open mind.
     
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    tesla Notable Member

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    #208
    If the Pentagon was really hit with a plane like you suggest, why is the FBI so reluctant to release the surveillance video from the gas station near the Pentagon? The evidence indicates the pentagon was hit by a cruise missile.

    Just because your relatives saw Flight 93 crash doesn't mean it wasn't shot by another plane. How do you know it wasn't hit before it entered your relative's field of view?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #210
    And the report is nothing more then hear say. Only a good sheeple would use such evidence as evidence and believe it.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    GTech, I'll hand it to you. You're right. It makes sense that the Pentagon was hit by a plane.

    But the Plane wasn't controlled by a human. Many pilots have went on record and said it would be impossible for a human to fly the plane at the angle necessary to hit the Pentagon. If it wasn't a cruise missile, then it had to be a plane that was somehow mechanically controlled.

    The technlogy for this has existed since at least the 1970s. Popular Mechanics STILL doesn't explain why the FBI hasn't released the footage, and the Ceos of Popular Mechanics are bought and paid for.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Yo-yo, actually they do address this, but you really have to read.

    Tesla, popular mechanics could not explain a million things tied up into the whole conspiracy. Think about it...for every question it did address, it no longer becomes the issue and a new one introduced that they didn't cover. And when some other entity or person disproves those, more are fashioned. The game could be played forever. For example, the explosives theory was disproved, yet some still don't get how it ties into the "molten steel" theory. You have to be willing to continually move on from the disproved to something new that hasn't been disproved yet. Alex Jones is a fear mongerer that preys upon the needs of paranoid conspiracy theorists to believe the big bad government is out to get them, and only they can see it.

    Read yo-yo's signature and then think about what you are trying to give Bush credit for. On one hand, he's so stupid, he can't formulate a sentence, on the other hand, he's so smart that he silenced thousands and orchestrated a huge attack against our own country that only a select few have the ability to see through. All the while, the MSM pounces on every opportunity to betray our country, but don't touch this with a ten foot pole. We have rathergate, toiletgate (both made up stories). We have the NYT committing treason, and any number of media outlets on stand-by alert, ready to betray our country at a moments notice, but they don't touch this conspiracy. All the while, bin laden openly admitted to the attacks.

    One could make the argument that space aliens are out to get us all and with that focus, set out to find facts that support such a claim. Sadly enough, there actually is a conspirator out there that suggests 9/11 was the act of aliens. Apparently only they can see it so clearly.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #214
    Actually, No they don't.

    Actually, No it wasn't.

    seen this? http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august2004/082604alexwarned.htm

    It's a video and it shows On Wednesday July 25th 2001, during a taping of Alex's local cable access TV show in Austin, Texas, he elaborated on how the Globalists were set to use their operative Osama bin Laden and that the preparations for a terror attack were in their final stages.

    He encouraged people to call the White House and tell them not to go ahead and launched the staged terror attack that would become the foundation of their push for martial law.

    What you have to say about this? :)
     
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  15. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #215
    Would be interesting to have more details about, in how they gathered this information.
    It makes me think a lot and it looks like to be worthy to give credibility to what he stated.
    What's up with this guy now?
    "Mindcontrol" - focusing on him?
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #216
    Sure, that the below written text has nothing to do with your banner?
    Just teasing a bit. - Actually the color combination looks great with DP green. ;)

    When a Jesuit of the minor rank is to be elevated to command, he is conducted into the Chapel of the Convent of the Order, where there are only three others present, the principal or Superior standing in front of the altar. On either side stands a monk, one of whom holds a banner of yellow and white, which are the Papal colours, ... from an extrem Jesuits oath ...
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    What do I have to say? Glad you asked!

    One question leads to another, leads to another, leads to another. Fear monger, doom and gloom, this guy could make a weak mind believe anything!

    My first thought was, anyone can take a video and slap a date on it. My second thought was, anyone can fabricate a video and say any date they choose. My third thought was, with an ego like that, had he actually predicted 9/11, then on 9/12, he'd have it plastered all over his site. Isn't that the absolute joy of making predictions? The "I told you so" factor? In fact, one might think his site mentioned it prior to 9/11 as part of his daily website update and then *very much* so after 9/11. But that wasn't the case, from what I found. In fact, for months AFTER 9/11, the mindset then was that it was terrorists that were responsible, followed by (of course!) that the government had prior knowledge about it. A far cry from the mindset of today.

    If the prediction was in fact recorded on July 25th, 2001, then why does his site, courtesy of www.archive.org not mention it at all in August 2001?
    http://web.archive.org/web/20010801200015/http://infowars.com/index.html

    If the broadcast was recorded on the 25th of July, 2001, and he now proposes that it was a big cover up, and predicted the government would try to carry out terrorist activities on it's own country [to declare martial law] (what happened to the martial law??), why does his November 2001 site archive leave viewers with the impression the government had prior knowledge of the attacks? In this month, November 2001, his view seems to be that our government knew attacks were forthcoming, but no indication that it wasn't actually terrorists. Yet, still no mention of the 25th July video in any of these resources. The notion in November 2001 is not that 9/11 was orchestrated by the government, but that bin laden did it and there must be government officials to blame. My how the times change.
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011211164825/infowars.com/resources.html

    Martial law, school children being visited by cobra helicopters to be desensitized and indoctrinated! Just happened on these while searching for any clue regarding that July 25th video prediction. Nothing. You'd think someone like that would just love to brag about it, but I find nothing regarding it all. I wonder why?

    What does December, 2001 tell us?
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011211145136/http://infowars.com/index.html
    Nothing, still, on the front page regarding the 25 July video. An interesting beginning:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20011216041541/infowars.com/Police_State/NSA.htm
    Article wasn't there in November. Still no mention of the July 25th prediction. You'd think if someone actually predicted something, it would be plastered all over their site. I can't imagine why it wasn't...everything else sure was.

    How about January, 2002?
    http://web.archive.org/web/20020206043801/http://www.infowars.com/index.html
    New links, in ever warning red, to let the mindful ones know the big bad government is out to get them! Still no reference to the July 25th video. What a perfect place to put it, except the mindset was still that the terrorists were responsible for 9/11. Doesn't fit well, yet, with the evolved "terrorists didn't do it, it was our government" leanings of today. Yet still, he had supposedly already predicted it?

    And that's as far as I went. No point in going any further. I found no mention of any prediction at a time when it surely could have benefited him most. No archives of the video, though he was (and still is) pumping out those "videos for dollars." Not even a mention, an article, an "I told you so." The mindset from then, was quite different from what it is today.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Except that it was aired on Austin Cable TV

    How many pages on the archive.org did you look at? Just because it's not on his home page it wasn't real? It's not currently on his home page and probably never has been.
     
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    #219
    I think that the govt acted too fast and took away everything that could have led to more hints and facts.

    - Not as usual, where crimes-scenes are seized and every minute detail is searched.
    Whether it was a local American conspiracy or not, it would have at least served civil engineering a lot by now, - to get some more insight etc. - if the evidences wouldn't have been carried away so fast.

    For me, the collapse looked like a perfect implosion like as if was planned. A perfect tear down of high rise buildings were both towers collapsed the same way in an elegant style.:rolleyes: :confused:
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #220
    So you say.


    It wasn't anywhere. Home page was one of many. Non-existent. Let me know when you find it, I provided easy links for you to verify. Don't waste your time on the home/index page, dive into the site and see for yourself ;)
     
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