The Real Cause of 911?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by yo-yo, Dec 22, 2005.

  1. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,004
    Likes Received:
    116
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    #81
    I agree, but you must admit that there was little from people/companies like architects, construction companies, civil engineers etc. which were directly involved in the planning and building of the two towers.

    Strange is also that suddenly experts, as named above, came not into consideration in researching the details of the cause, then the FBI and other non qualified departments, to speak their points of findings.
     
    Arnie, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  2. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #82
    I found one site that claimed the support beams were made of concrete, not steel. I imagine the engineers and builders are keeping quiet so as not to be embarrased after claiming the buildings could survive an airplane impact.

    Actually they did survive the impact and I was quite impressed, but you never know, contracters have been known to cut corners and that may just have been the case.
     
    Roman, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  3. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    25,924
    Likes Received:
    1,354
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    380
    #83
    haha very good :D
     
    Blogmaster, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  4. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,004
    Likes Received:
    116
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    105
    #84
    That's then even more strange if it is as you say, because that would mean that the govt, FBI are covering the shortcomings of the people involved in the construction.
     
    Arnie, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  5. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #85
    Forget the picture, there's plenty of firsthand testimony. There wouldn't be any discrepencies about molten steel perhaps if they hadn't rushed away all the evidence.

    .

     
    yo-yo, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  6. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #86

    But that gave birth to a new theory: covering up poor quality. Now we have three theories.
     
    Roman, Dec 23, 2005 IP
    Blogmaster likes this.
  7. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #87

    You said to answer the molten metal theory, then you post a picture, now you say forget it?

    First hand testimony in a high stress situation means nothing, if my wife is running late for work her brain shuts off and she can't even find her keys, I can't imagine what the people that were there went through.
     
    Roman, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  8. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #88
    That's the smartest thing I've ever heard you say. People don't research anything, they don't question anything, they dismiss everything besides what the government told them as a "conspiracy theory" (although I already proved the gov's claims are just as much a conspiracy theory by the very definition of the words). I'm glad we're getting somewhere here Roman. ;)
     
    yo-yo, Dec 23, 2005 IP
  9. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #89

    Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction,
    Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Incorporated.
    Leslie Robertson, the chief structural engineer for the Twin Towers
    Joe "Toolie" O'Toole, a Bronx firefighter
    Greg Fuchek, vice president of sales for LinksPoint, Inc.


    You're telling me all these people's claims of molten steel mean nothing because of stress? :rolleyes: . The president of a company that does NOTHING BUT blow up buildings is too stressed out cleaning up that he can't tell what molten steel is? REAL BELIEVABLE
     
    yo-yo, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  10. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #90
    OK, molten steel, what does the explosives that are used for demolitioning do? Burn through or cut the supports. The charges ignite in a fraction of a second, so how could they produce mass quantities of molten steel?

    I'll agree with you that there are things we don't know about but the governments truth IMHO is a lot closer to the real truth than what you are proposing.
     
    Roman, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  11. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #91
    This has been explained in my quotes on the last 5 or so pages of this thread. It's also clearly explained in the 2nd article I posted and partially in the first article. I'm not going to re quote and paste everything thats already right there in front of you. Go back and read. The article is long but well worth the read, especially if you want to have an open mind and discuss things ;)

    EDIT: Start here
     
    yo-yo, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  12. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #92
    Roman, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  13. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #93
    Next thing you're going to tell me is that Neil Armstrong never landed on the moon;)
     
    Roman, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  14. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #94
    For those of you that think a huge, hot, fire was raging inside the crash hole of the buildings:

    http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/2005/04/woman-waving-close.avi

    How about a woman waving from inside the actual crash hole? :D

    Going to have a hard time explaining how a woman can wave from the fire hot enough to collapse 110 story buildings.
     
    yo-yo, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  15. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

    Messages:
    6,217
    Likes Received:
    592
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    310
    #95
    Fire can be centralized and with the amazing invention of fireproofing you can have a raging fire inches away and feel no heat. Dont' you watch infomercials?

    Besides, it may not have been fire, gravity is a pretty stong force.
     
    Roman, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  16. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

    Messages:
    7,526
    Likes Received:
    716
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    360
    #96
    This made me think of something I've read a lot about in the history books. If people were openly using the word, "jews" and not the word "arabs", wouldn't there be an outcry?

    Jim, I realise you did not use the word "arab". It simply reminded me of a time in recent history when a group seized power of a country, gradually eroded, then severely limited, freedoms, and thereafter suspended civil liberties and initiated martial law based on a self-inflicted 'attack'. Inciting hatred based on racial grounds to further their own aims and fund their plans for war was all part of the package, as was going to war on a pretext.
     
    mcfox, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  17. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #97
    yo-yo, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  18. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #98
    yo-yo, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  19. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    4,619
    Likes Received:
    206
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    185
    #99
    yo-yo, Dec 24, 2005 IP
  20. Blogmaster

    Blogmaster Blood Type Dating Affiliate Manager

    Messages:
    25,924
    Likes Received:
    1,354
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    380
    #100
    I stopped having the patience to read when I've realized that most of the theories put out are completely unfounded and a waste of time. If there was something that I believed was new and had evidence, sure. But you can spend your whole life reading them all and they are all different and have one thing in common: no evidence that they are actually solid enough to consider changing history over :)
     
    Blogmaster, Dec 24, 2005 IP