Is the war against terrorism a crusade?

What do you think about it as many of the muslims think it is crusade!

 

Why would US send troops if it wanted a crusade?

With the kind of weapons US has, it will take one full day for it to finish off the entire population of Iraq.

US sent troops because it wanted a stable government in Iraq.

 

You can't reason with muslims. Remember Mr. Berg? Such a sad incident. He thought he could reason with the muslims. I think if it was a crusade, the muslims would have been wiped off some while back with a lot less effort and then we would also have had easier access to oil (if in fact it is about oil)

 

Considering that the Christians effectively lost the crusades - i.e. lost control of Jerusalem - the reason why the first crusade was called I don't think you would call going into Iraq a crusade - i.e. the US had no religious motives - only secular motives - MONEY, etc.

Although the West lost the crusades in the East (and won in Spain and other places) the learning, technology, food, ideas, etc that they brought back with them was the foundation for the flowering of European culture - in that the crusades were a good thing for the west and why sometimes defeat can be one of the best things for the long term victory of a culture.

 

Yeah it's not a crusade, but it can be viewed as one depending on your position and beliefs.

You know there are probably plenty of Christians who see it as one and are happy to see Muslims being wiped out in large numbers. As an agnostic and more so my personal preference I am against pretty much all religious ideology, especially muslim and christian.

So from my outsider point of view I do see how it can be interpreted as the west imposing our government style and ideology on the small foothold we have.

Bottom line is you can't just bully your way into a society and force an entirely different ideology on them. One they happen to be against, and have been against since the beginning of their civilization thousands of years ago.

 

If it is it could only be an improvement. I mean cmon look at the "Christian world" Vs "Muslim world".

It looks to me Islam is on a crusade 24/7 worldwide!

No its not acrusade.

 

if you are a fanatical christian or muslim then yeah it is a crusade.
but if you are sane - no it is not.
most coalition forces in iraq come from what used to be described as christian countries but i should imagine that very few of the military align themselves with a religious ideology.

 

The "war on terror" is a campaign against opposition for US domination.

Not All Fascism Looks Like Adolf Hitler

 

Who cares about those muslims who think it's a crusade? seriously these guys are the very fanatics that need wiping out. No normal or moderate muslim would claim other wise.

 

And no true Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge.

 

Is there any Christians wanting to see muslims being wiped out?

Didn't think so...

one word for you - dinosaurs - this is just too funny

 

Fundi jesusfreaks believe armagheddon wont start until all the jews are back in israel. And if armageddon doesn't start neither will the rapture.

"God blesses those that bless the Jews and curses those who curse the Jews. Consequently, we believe America needs to bless the Jews and Israel, because if we bless the Jews and support Israel, God blesses us. And if we don't, God curses us."

http://www.beliefnet.com/story/106/story_10687_1.html

 

The fanatics are just frightening people, christian or muslim, period.

 

The Jews back and Isreal somehow equals death to all muslims? how?

BTW, I am a Jesus freak.

 

Because god curses those who curse the jews.

Rapture also requires there to be a war between Israel and it's surrounding countries (other countries will take sides), Jesus will return and the enemies of Israel will be defeated.

Armageddon specifically requires the enemies of israel to be defeated. This is why so many fundamental Christians back US finding for the israel military.

you can try to pretend that christians are peaceful people who wish no harm no anyone, But a lot of them believe that the countries surrounding israel need to be wiped out during Armageddon for the rapture to take place.

 

I don't think you understand much of the Christian view on anything. I know of no Christian who wants to have the muslims killed. You may have seen one website that states such, but that wouldn't be the Biblical thing now would it. No where are Christians commanded to kill.

 

It was a business decision, we went there because Cheney had Haliburton options, Bushes were in oil business, etc.

 

Christians for israel is one such group that pushes for american support of israel specifically because rapture and the second coming can't happen unless the countries surrounding israel are defeated in armageddon.

You and your happy clappy sunday afternoon christians may not agree with what they say. But they are christians, They are quoting the bible and they are looking forward to armageddon, In which the countries surrounding israel are defeated and the second coming will occur.

If you have a problem with it i suggest you take it up with them.

 

Can you show me where they say they have to go wipe out muslims?
Defeating an enemy is different than wiping out a group of people- unless you are saying that a whole group of people would come and try to wipe out Israel.

You don't know me at all do you? Didn't think so. You are sounding like AnthonyCea now.

 

You can play semantics all you want, It's perfectly clear what these people want. they want the countries surrounding israel, Countries populated by muslims, To be defeated in a massive war which will bring about the second coming and rapture. And they are doing it in the name of your god.

It's odd how you, A so called christian, would rather play games with words than speak out about people promoting war in your gods name. I guess like most "christians" your faith is nothing more than a badge you wear for public appearances and the "word of god" is nothing more than an inconvenient book, A book which you people all too often chose to completely ignore, Unless of course it backs up a point you are trying to make.

What did jesus say about the hypocrite again?