The koran says that israel belongs to the jews

To use the words of George Burns (who was Jewish):

I believe in Moses and follow him, but why the heck did he lead us to the only place in the Middle East that has no oil?

 

I don't think its about Israel; it's about Jerusalem, really. Isn't it? The temple on the mount, as I understand it, is the focal point for both the "end of times" for both the jewish and islamic religions.

 

i think there is going to be a peace agreement between israel and arabs before bush leaves office so better get used to being nice with each other.

 

I think a real peace agreement will start with things like this:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070715/ap_on_re_mi_ea/owls_for_peace

It has to be ground up, to last. Things like this are a good start. Small, yes. But small steps are the hardest.

 

i stick with my timeline. an agreement before bush leaves office is 85% or better

 

It's been shown that the pals don't want peace. I'll say 10%, at best. Condi Rice certainly hasn't shown much competence in the position, either, to help things along.

 

Good man if the koran says israel belongs to the jews good for them why should we care

 

They know that.. They just don't care...

 

That is funny

 

funny indeed.

but the most funniest thing is that we all experts about muslim or islam.
we all must be studied islam very extensively in school.

only know about one or two verses, than can we call our self an expert about islam?

 

america was america long before columbus arrived. There are still some white people occupying parts (well... most) of america today.

 

Israel was Israel long before Islam was invented, sure. But we are talking about the State. The palestinian jews lived peacefully, and today palestinian jews still live in palestinian land such as Gaza, they have not moved to Israel, Zionists are not real jews.

The palestinian land also known as the land of Israel was open before 1948 - untill the UK decided to make Israel a state (Illegaly) on land which belonged to ALL the people of the palestinian region, not just the jews.

Also, there has never been an "Official" Jewish land untill 1948, so for you to say people have been occupieing jewish lands is fallacy.

(Let's try to keep this clean, I'm not going to reply to immature kids like d16man.)

 

You do realize that Judaism predates Islam by thousands of years right?

 

You base your words on what, exactly ?
Who is a real Jew, and who isn't ?
Jews are defined by their beliefs and thoughts on certain things ?
I am a Jew and i'm not a Zionist, i don't believe in god. Am i a real Jew ?
Where does this allocation of real/fake Jews coming from ? Are you the king of Jews to make such statements ?

 

looks like God really doesn't care about oil afterall...now who was it that said God told Bush to go after the oil?

 

Because the Zionism movement is based upon Illegal acts such as killing, torture and stolen land. There are plenty of jews that rally and protest for the abolishment of Zionism.

 

League of Nations mandate was created in the aftermath of World War I, after the collapse of the Ottoman Empire, which had controlled the area since the 16th Century.
The League explicitly tasked the British with recognizing "the historical connection of the Jewish people with Palestine and to the grounds for reconstituting their national home in that country"

United Nations succeeded the League of Nations as overseer of Mandate territories, and took up the question of Jewish and Arab self-government in the Mandate. On September 30, 1947, Britain decided to terminate the British mandate of Palestine, later setting the withdrawal date of May 15, 1948.[3] Subsequently, a majority of the United Nations Special Committee on Palestine recommended the creation of independent Arab and Jewish states, with Jerusalem to be placed under international administration, and on November 29, 1947 the UN General Assembly voted 33 to 13 in favor of the 1947 UN Partition Plan.

nothing to do with the UK so get your facts straight

 

Mabye you want to re-read what you posted. Britain terminated the British mandate of palestine. If they didn't do this, the partion wouldnt of happened. I dont mind debating with mature people such as GTech, but I'm not going to even bother with immature little kids such as yourself. Attack the post, not the poster.

 

they terminated the mandate because the league of nations was succeeded by the UN..not so Israel could be formed. you also might want to read her post again.

 

Did I say "So Israel could be formed"?. No, so dont put words in my mouth. Also, I didn't say that they didn't terminate the mandate because of the UN, infact, that is what I did say so I'd like to suggest you aquire some better reading skills before running your mouth.

It's ovbious by your grammar and attitude that your a kid, so please for everyone elses sake keep your views to yourself.