Farfour's Dead - Now It's Nahoul The Bee

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by dgridley, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #21
    Another response by a brain washed moron. The thread has nothing to do with historical reason for the war between Palestinian and Israel state and it is about the use of cartoons and animation as a mean of propaganda in wars.

    The facts are very simple, Americans used it and Hamas is using too. Either you have to condemn both or agree with both. Your response in typical view of a red neck American, if we do it is good because we are American but if others do it then it is bad because they are not Americans. :rolleyes:
     
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    #22
    Only that -you- brought up the historical suffering of palestinians to try and make a point. Now you back away from it? Interesting.

    Don't got nothing to say. Start the name calling. Typical.

    I agree. They are simple. Declared state of war - nations against nations. Vs. Kids show telling kids to martyr themselves.

    You are ridiculous Gworld. Just unsubscribe. Don't make yourself look more foolish here.
     
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    #23
    No way! You have to like Hello Kitty!!
    Does not compute. Does not compute.
    Here Lorien, this will make you feel better about Hello Kitty...
    it's the new cute Hello Kitty Pet Hat:)
    For the puppy that has everything.

    The Webmaster-"If you expect that from a terrorist organization like Hamas, I hate to say but you need to wake up from that illusionary dream."
    Your right about that, but suggesting and expecting are two different things.:)
     
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    #24
    Can you explain to my dumb mind AGS... Akkk.. Sorry.. Gworld (Sorry, you all look the same) how on earth these Videos spread hate?

    The first one is boosting morals of American Citizens during war, promoting nationalism and asks to support the country.

    The 2nd one is a military training animation that teaches troops to keep the secret locked in mind (Heck this isnt even meant for children but troops)

    And the Third one is......ohhh..leave it, When you are Too dumb to get that these videos are not spreading hate and propaganda within children, instead boosting morals and nationalism in citizens during a tough time, I am not wasting my time educating you.
     
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    #25
    As Homer Simpson might say:

    "Good bye, Rebecca. Remember me as I am: Filled with murderous rage!"
     
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  6. gworld

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    #26
    I only mentioned Palestinian situation because you called it imaginary war. There is nothing imaginary about their situation or war. :rolleyes:

    I let other judge who is ridiculous since you are so wrapped up in new found love of Republicans for state of Israel that you will not have time to take your head out of their A*s long enough to see that it is the same use of propaganda. ;)
     
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    #27
    just as thick as his sunday school statement :D
     
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    #28
    Still nothing bad to say about teaching kids to hate and murder jews, huh?

    As long as you realize you brought it up. Then complained 2 posts later that it's not about that after a brief history lesson. Interesting. ;)

    It's not the same, gworld. Again

    video1 - this is a video about buying war bonds
    video2 - is a video clearly made for soldiers
    video3 - is a video about paying your income tax

    These are all, clearly, designed for adults. Probably in movie theatres. I don't see anything in these saying "lets murder japanese/germans because they are japanese/germans" do you? War videos, for an actual, declared war.

    Let's compare that to the farfour/bee videos:

    video1 - killing jews/destroying israel
    video2 - killing jews/destroying israel
    video3 - killing jews/destroying israel

    These are all designed, clearly, for children to gin up hate.

    Perhaps these are the same to you, but you are being silly to think so.

    Feel free to take my offer and unsubscribe - your defenses here are getting more pathetic each time.
     
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    #29
    Yeah?? I thought it was about bunny sex on a peaceful and quiet island...
     
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    #30
    Sorry, I went looking at other videos (here's that income tax one - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJ69X1qt4sQ). This one is your typical BB cartoon. He just beats up japanese instead of yosemite sam or elmer fudd. Bugs finally gets some at the end, though. :p
     
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    #31
    I was just stricken that this is a state-sanctioned piece of garbage. Further, from what I've seen, Jesus Camp freaks me out completely. But there is no denying the relative qualitative difference - a difference of kind, not degree. You make an excellent point above.
     
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    #32
    I couldn't watch the whole thing. I don't like that sort of thing - something I'd definitely never send my kid too. I'm totally up for private schools, though.

    I always remember that scene from Borat, where he goes to that christian thing and there is this senator expelling demons from people. Geesh. I mean, really; a senator? (can't remember the senator's name)
     
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    #33
    What part of these videos is talking about killing Jews? :rolleyes:

    It is talking about the occupied land by state of Israel and how Palestinian shouldn't forget the past and try to liberate their country and this farfur gets killed by an Israeli agent. It is a propaganda program in the same way that Americans produce for their causes, the only difference is that they have done it with a low budget and it is not as good as Hollywood versions. ;)
     
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    #34
    You still here, gworld? Thought you wisened up.

    There. I answered your own question for you. How do you think they are going to "liberate their country" when its occupied by jews? Give them flowers?

    Here is a handy dandy episode list for you; if you need further clarification:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow's_Pioneers#Episodes

    Exactly the same!

    video1 - this is a video about buying war bonds
    video2 - is a video clearly made for soldiers
    video3 - is a video about paying your income tax

    These are all, clearly, designed for adults. Probably in movie theatres. I don't see anything in these saying "lets murder japanese/germans because they are japanese/germans" do you? War videos, for an actual, declared war.

    Let's compare that to the farfour/bee videos:

    video1 - killing jews/destroying israel
    video2 - killing jews/destroying israel
    video3 - killing jews/destroying israel

    Done trolling yet?
     
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    #35
    How did Britain, France and USA liberated occupied Europe, Philippine and Japan? :rolleyes:

    There are many Jews who are against the state of Israel, so referring to the state of Israel as Jews is just a desperate attempt to take advantage of memory of many Jews who died in Holocaust as propaganda tool. :rolleyes:

    I am sure many of those who suffered the humiliation and terror of Nazi Germany would be against any government who acts in the same way against other human beings as state of Israel does against Palestinians.
     
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    #36
    35 posts in. Got anything bad to say about teaching kids to hate jews? Something? A little "tisk tisk" ... something?

    I thought this wasn't about the past suffering of the palestinians gworld :rolleyes: Remember you saying this about 5 posts ago? Stay coherent here, will ya? First it is, then it isn't, now it is again.

    Thanks for making my point for me! Makes my job a lot easier. While its ridiculuous to compare those occupied countries with Israel, the method of extraction would be similar. Yet you can't say anything bad about that. Unfortunate.
     
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    #37
    Did you have any point except kissing State of Israel ass? :rolleyes:

    It is disgusting that you use the memory of so many killed during the Holocaust as propaganda tool to justify Israel actions. :mad:
     
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    #38
    OK, I like to think there's a lot of gray on both sides.. no one is blameless to my way of thinking. Both sides have committed atrocities against the other, particularly from the viewpoint of those being wronged at the time, eh?

    Initially I was appalled to see they were teaching their kids this sort of "hate" but there are days I can see where they're coming from.. sorry, but there's at least a bit of truth to the oppression of the Palestinians the way I see it.
     
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    #39
    Aren't you done trolling yet?

    Am I doing that? Remind me how I am. Thanks!

    Did you have a point besides supporting the brainwashing of kids to support the killing of jews?

    And comparing occupied Europe - overrun by Nazis - to Israel. Did you mean to do that? Compare the nazis and the jews?
     
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    #40
    America is based on Christian values AND freedom of religion. You won't find that in most of the Muslim countries. No tolerance whatsoever.
     
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