Christian Website Advocates Violence Against Abortionists

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  1. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #21
    my body my choice
     
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    cryxellis Banned

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    #22
    Say fefifofum did you read the bible? And are you a christian? I think the one you are talking about when you said Child sacrifice (ordered by God?!!!) is the one when God test Abraham's loyalty and faith in Him. If you read it, the angel of God stop Abraham to kill his beloved son. He only test him, but not let the killings.

    The violence in the bible is only part of the man's own sin. :)
     
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    #23
    What we need is a war against christian terrorism.
     
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    #24
    It's a shame so many women didn't say "my body my choice" when the time came for them to open their legs. Maybe if they made smarter "choices" with "their body" they wouldn't have to kill so many unborn babies.

    but of course, It isn't your body which is being smashed to pieces and sucked out, is it. It's someone else's body. So really, Your silly little motto should be "someone else's body my choice".
     
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    #25
    And those christian terrorists are?
     
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    #26
    Christians who kill people in the name of christianity.
     
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    #27
    yes, i realize who you are refering to. I was actually looking for examples of christian terrorists. Since, based on previous posts, you seem to be able to say "we need a war against christian terrorists" but certainly do not feel the same against islamic terrorists. I'm curious what the distinctions are, in your head.
     
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  8. dgridley

    dgridley Guest

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    #28
    A valid point.. I do support abortion in the case of rape or possible harm to the mother tho. Otherwise, adoption seems the better choice for an unwanted child.

     
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  9. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #29
    Ah we have one of them that blame the women, well what of the women that are raped every 2 seconds around the world? did they have a choice to keep their legs closed you mindless fool. before you blame the women. take a good look at yourself and see what you are as a person. you lay all the blame on women, when if i am not mistaken, it takes 2 people to make a woman pregnant.

    I for one have yet to see a woman make a woman pregnant.
    when you grow up and mature a little more. then come back and put a valid point to us. until then i think you need to go back to school and learn about the birds and the bees..

    mashed to bits and sucked out? thats a 3rd trimester abortion and is only carried out if the mothers life is in danger. someone has been watching to many pro life demo's
     
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    #30
    National Liberation Front of Tripura, Christian Identity, KKK, Abortion clinic killers, Army of god, Centennial Olympic Park Bombings.
     
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    #31
    It's sheer lunacy to claim the number of pregnancies that occur from rape has any bearing on this. Unless you are saying only rape victims should be allowed to abort? Is that what you are saying?

    You didn't consider the man with your stupid little "my body my choice" saying, So i didn't think i had to. You are right your body your choice. Take some damn responsibility for yourself.

    I think you should do some reasearch before spouting off any more. God knows how many kids have died because of your ignorance.

    A woman (In the UK) can abort up to 24 weeks.
    A baby can be born at 22 weeks and survive

    babies that big are smashed to pieces and sucked out on a regular basis simply because thier mother is an irrisponsible moron.
     
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    #32
    Already designated a terror organization

    Never heard of em. Name suggests a neo-nazi group?

    Are they even relevant in this day and age? I thought the only KKK members were on the occasional jerry springer episode. My son married a black woman, etc. The horrors. Pretty fringe, hardly a mainstream group, don't ya think?

    When was the last abortion clinic killing? mid 90s or something? A fringe wacko here and there. Hardly a "movement"

    Never heard of em. Probably another fringe group with no actual support, right? A few guys on a mission?

    Wasn't this one guy, linked to some fringe abortion group?

    While most of the people/groups listed probably aren't right in the head; I don't think they really compare to state sponsored terrorism, do you?
     
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    #33
    Most "terrorists" can be described as not right in the head on one level or another. But the National Liberation Front of Tripura is funded by the baptist church of Tripura. As soon as you have religion funding you, You don't really need much in the way of sponsoring from the state.
     
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  14. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #34
    i am a sexual health advisor fool i think i know more about it that you do.
    and trust me when i say that there is no real time limit set for an abortion in the uk, as long as 2 Doctors agree a woman can have an abortion at week 39, there are so many different reasons for an abortion, your blanket comment on women:
    was just stupidity in it's lack of reason. you just want to blame women, but placed no guilt on men.
    my reply was given with the same contempt you gave to women.
     
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    #35
    Are you totally missing the point on purpose or is it by accident? You can roughly equate the actions of state sponsored terrorists (hamas/fatah/AQ/etc) who have financing to acquire lots of weapons, explosives - and have the drive to kill themselves to ensure their use, etc with some random goobers? Seriously, now, you are joking, right?
     
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    #36
    Sadly no. GTech keeps posting a long list of terrorist activities carried out my Christians on a daily basis. Just in the last month dozens if not hundreds of civilians have been murdered by Christian Jihadists.

    Those were Christians right?
     
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    #37
    You are wasting your breath. The only "terrorists" this lot care about are brown ones from the middle east.

    Well unfortunately, for you, What you "think" and reality are two very different things.

    And please, You wrote some articles on VD, It hardly gives you authority on a subject.

    Your comment of "my body my choice" was given as a reply to what i said? Well you must tell me how you managed to travel in to the future to read my comment and then reply to it before i had even made it. It's quite a talent you have.

    The fact is there are a vast number of things women can do to prevent themselves becoming pregnant. So for women to treat abortion as a form of contraception, Like many do, Is simply sick and unacceptable.

    You can bang on about men all you want. But the fact remains it's the woman who becomes pregnant and it's the woman who chooses to have an abortion. So when you get over blaming everyone besides yourself maybe you can take some damn responsibility for your own selfish actions.
     
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  18. samantha pia

    samantha pia Prominent Member

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    #38
    are you just stupid? if i posted that before your post, it could not very well be in reply to you post now can it?

    but just maybe the post i quoted of yours, was the post i replied to. you know the quote system does name the person who you are quoting and the post they made, when you reply to it.

    i have writen more than just a few articles, i have given sexual health advice to over 800,000 students, and been doing it for 5 years.

    i'll give you some facts, 87% of all abortions in the uk are done before week 12, so the abortion pill is used in most cases, no mashing up babies as you put it.

    i am not disputing that sex ed is something that needs improvement, but when a fool like you makes a broad statement and puts the sole blame on women, you need your head testing.
    to use terms like baby mashing and sucking out, clearly shows what side of the fence you sit on, and with that, your statements that are used and the manor you use them and the contempt of women in the way you put your point across, means you are nothing but a waste of space thats not trying to have a debate, but just here with an agenda to spread pro life crap.

    thats why i have nothing but contempt for jerks like you.
     
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    #39
    wowee, That's nearly 9 out of 10 who aren't mashed up and sucked out as a practically fully formed human being! Lucky them.

    Here's a fact for you. After just 2 weeks the spinal cord and central nervous system starts forming and functioning. I doubt you actually teach science in your shagging classes and probably focus on the important stuff like how to get rid of a kid that is a result of a drunken fumble behind the bins or playing a game of "guess that rash".

    At 12 weeks the fetus has a skeleton, a spine, a brain and fingernails. But don't worry, We still have another 12 weeks to kill it. Abortions are still allowed up until the stage where the fetus has hair on it's head and a set of lungs capable of drawing breath.

    So it's only "your body" when you want to defend your right to kill a baby, And not when you are asked to take some responsibility for your actions?

    Good. I tried hard to make it very clear what my position on this was. I'm glad you managed to deduce what side of the fence i sit on.
     
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  20. sarahk

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    #40
    When my boy was 5 he came racing in, children's bible in his hands, distraught, at Abraham's ambition and the price he was prepared to pay. We tell our kids to think for themselves and here was Abraham putting God and political power ahead of his own instinct to nurture and protect the next generation.

    I disagree Sammie, but the crux of the issue is when you consider the fetus to be cells and when it's a person. My husband was stunned when I had a very early miscarriage at how upset I was. We have different ideas. It's all guesswork and faith though - nobody really knows the answer.

    I'm not big on children having children either...
     
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