A Dmoz link is more important than 1000 PR5s

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by seo-boy, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. #1
    Yes, this is true. I did some search on this, and sites that do not really have that many backlinks always rank #1 in Gogle for many keywords. It simply means that unless you have a Dmoz listing, your site will NEVER rank #1 for any competitive keyword. That's as simple as that.
     
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  2. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    Really?

    Care to share your information and statistics?
     
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    ajsa52 Well-Known Member

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    I disagree. I have a site NOT listed on Dmoz and ranked #1, #2 and #3 on Google Searchs for three different competitive keywords.
     
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    What a load of nonsense; plenty of top ranked sites are not listed on DMOZ; plenty of DMOZ listed sites have PR0 and rank nowhere. Your rank is to do with how well you manipulate the Google algorythm. Coincidentally the best manipulated sites may also have DMOZ listings but the listing has a very minor if any effect.
     
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    That's such an exaggeration. For SERP trustworthy links count more than PR, and DMOZ is just one of them, if you get high PR links from link farms they surely wont help as much as a DMOZ listing. A good backlink is not only a high PR one so you should make better a comparison.
     
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  6. Blogmaster

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    I would like for you to show us some of the "search" you did on that, because I see quite a few sites ranked high for powerful keyterms without being listed in DMOZ.
     
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    I also noticed that top ranking sites are almost always Dmoz listed. But Dmoz listing might be an effect rather than a cause in that Dmoz listed sites are also usually those that are older. Thus, they will rank higher in the SERPs. A dmoz PR5 is sure more valuable than a regular PR5, and perhaps a number of them, but I don't think it would be more valuable than 1000 of them lol. Well of course if the 1000 liks are totally unrelated, then yeah, they will not be very useful for the serps.
     
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    Actually, I have seen quite a few DMOZ listed sites which also seem to be penalized by Google.
     
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    one of my blogs is listed into DMOZ, yes it ranks number one for most of the relevant keywords but yet its found on the 9th 10th page for other keywords related to the site...so we would like to see some proof!
     
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    About how many posts does the blog of your have?
     
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    it can rank good if its in DMOZ but dmoz do not take submission so easily and that is the problem with it, they take months to approve the link.
     
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    It depends on which category you are submitting. I have seen two month old sites in dmoz.
     
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    Those are the sites where I'd take a closer look at who owns them. ;)
     
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    I am a new editor in Dmoz, and I've accepted new sites, too. It depends on the editor. If the site is good enough, I accept it. I've accepted several sites that have all been waiting there before I became an editor. Once I became an editor, something started to be done about them! I am the best Dmoz editor the world has ever seen!
     
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    Let us know when meta starts to trash your edits... :rolleyes:
     
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    Omg! It just happened. They just did it. :(

    How did you know, Ivan? You must be a genius!
     
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    No, just another unjustly removed editor... be careful so you don't join our constantly growing ranks soon.
     
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    There is some sense in this.

    I was a reasonably prolific editall and I would say half the sites I listed had not been submitted. If I was interested in building up a category I would inevitably use Google to find the sites to build it. There may be a couple of thousand listings in DMOZ I found on the top of a Google search.

    Being on the first page of Google results for a keyword an editor might use to build up a category definitely improves your chances of getting a listing without even submitting. Being on the first page of Google also means you are quite possibly a bigger player with a bigger marketing budget, an editor is more likely to recognise the name, it is less likely to be plagarised material, and again that boosts the listing chances again without even submitting. It is a million times more likely that a top Google result causes a DMOZ listing than a DMOZ listing causing in a top Google result.
     
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    Exactly! DMOZ is using Google, Google isn't using DMOZ anymore...

    To give you an example. Many sites offer free stained glass patterns. But DMOZ won't deeplink, they list websites, not webpages. All the free stained glass patterns are scattered across the directory depending on the topic of the sites they belong to, with the exception of a site that mainly sells stained glass patterns. The free ones are lost in the main stained glass caterogy I think. DMOZ is completely useless. But use "free stained glass patterns" as a keyword in Google, and you'll find what you are looking for. With DMOZ, you never will.

    Search engines are vastly superior, more professional, and reliable.

    Like brizzie says, it's nothing but a feedback loop, with DMOZ being a very foggy mirror of what Google does with such impressive speed and clarity.
     
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