Annual Fees Rock; One-Off Fees are for the Quick Buck Crew

No,not true.
There are many other factors.

 

So basically what you are saying is that Jeff was justified in what he exclaimed with regards to more editors/costs when growing and thus justifying the cost, well, until something can be pragmatically incorporated and streamlined into the schema of things as you've suggested, correct?

So there may be a short term spike in cost until then.

 

I am considering non human editors for my directory

The only drawback is that they would consume more resources!!!!

Also if owner is like Malcolm ,he would not need an editor!

 

Human editors are a must, but scripts can help.

 

That sounds pretty cool!
Is it a MOD or it is a built-in MOD?
What's the script you are using?
I know you can check if the sites are dead in site-sift script though.

 

It was actually move to a proper category, when I use to move listings

We both know how you get a featured and site wides from some of the directories.....you dint pay them, but regardless on how you suckered them, then I guess more power to you

 

http://www.focalmedia.net/pseek.html

 

we can make wonder with AI(artificial intelligence)

Its very much possible as it is easy to create separate bots for spearate categories

also I am very much afraid that If Google goes or MSN comes out with a new algorithim all would go!

 

And I have no problems with moves If submitted imporperly.

So who are you calling a sucker and why? Enlighten us all.
I have the answers to your concerns, young buck. Unfortunately you are just not, nor will ever be in the know.

But again, tally up those 'year to date receipts' vs 'what i just spent this past week'. It's an easy 100 dollars to make if you know simple arithmetic.



But back on track... John... come to the yearly side! The force is strong...

 

I agree with you 100% there Loredan.

I know Jeff promotes his directories as well, but no where near the other yearly fee well-older and establish directories like Yahoo/Business.com

You have moved up the ladder but it does not give you a right to call us QBC as that's what you are too. You rely heavily on Link Baiting techniques to get your visitors.

Many of the people who had supported Aviva are coming from the so called "QBC" and brought Aviva on it's current ranks, but now Aviva has declared war on them, buy calling them names in a degrading passion. It's a shame to see a what once a respective directory gone bad.

 

You owe me $100...but it's cool, just an ego thing on your side....I know how you work An0L and your ways and I been playing with you for a year now and your dancing like a fool with no music playing...lesson learn from the past...can't win me

 

Another bad call.

Would you please stop talking about the same stuff again and again?

 

In the end it comes to the directory owner to decide

If I switch to yearly fees(for www.jeffbrowninc.com) I am sure than no would buy a listing

but if some others like Aviva switch to yearly then it also shows the commitment of the directory owner to keep the directory running and promote it!

I strongly feel that less than 10-20 directories are worth for switching to yearly payment option

others are not worth for it!

 

Problem with an opinion? then, Stay Out!

 

DO I have to babysit in this thread too?

Come on!!!

 

If I raise my prices can I play with the big boys too?

 

Larger directories need more categories, so you end up doing more work moving things round.

Although you can get a script to do most of this for you, there's still going to be some website changes that a spider just won't help you sort out. Moved pages that don't return a 404, for instance. So that's another cost.

I would also imagine that a really big directory attracts quite a lot of spam. I couldn't say whether or not this rises in direct proportion to it's size or overall success, or exponentially, though.

 

Just a couple points to clarify:

1. I do think that a new directory just starting off probably needs to have a one-time fee until they have proven themselves. But over time, the directory will need to move to an annual fee basis.

2. A lot of people have questioned about increased costs as a directory grows. John said:

It goes to follow that if you have twice as many listings, you have twice as much review work (and twice the editing costs).

Also, there is an increased SEO cost as a directory grows, as John well knows:
http://blog.v7n.com/2007/04/22/excess-pages-polluting-your-website/

As your directory grows in size, to keep the pages indexed in Google and ranking in Google gets more and more difficult.

3. John said:

Did you actually read:
http://www.avivadirectory.com/downloadblog/?p=294

You got both!

 

Yes large directories attract more spam

But most of the well known paid directories would having less than 20,000 listings!

 

Wow- Just been away for a small holiday and there has been lots of fireworks I missed. Too bad
I have gone through this whole thread and read each and every post. I also read few posts on John Scot's thread just after he opened it on 19th when I was away.

Now --regarding the subject of the DEBATE - I think it should all depend on the directories that matter.

The last update has thrown few PR6 directories along with the old ones. I was also lucky to get one of my directory promotted to PR6.

So --the question -is ----

IS MY DIRECTROY AS GOOD AS AVIVA AND ALIVE --just because I have same PR? I would have thought that if I was a FOOL.

DMOZ is free and Yahoo is yearly & paid. So why does Google advises us to list on both?
If business.com-- BOTW can charge Annual fee --why can't Alive and Aviva ? Because they are almost there. Alive is already an AUTHORITY DIRECTORY ( HERE ) -- Aviva is nearly there and might soon get the status. Except those 3 -- I don't yet know if there are other authority paid directories. And John Scott knows better than most of us what is the value of an AUTHORITY LINK! I find V7N directory listed on some of the TOPMOST authority sites in the SEO industry ( to display a banner here is --$110/m (approx depending on Forex Rate)

So when business.com and BOTW -- ca charge so much annually --why can't Alive and Aviva? They have reached to where they are after lots of hard-work and burning their pockets. Are not they entitled to just $4 a month? Its not because of their hard-work or the money invested --but because their links are valued just that and probably more than that.

Prices should depend on the directory--its strength, reputation and the value of a link from that directory-not by any other yardstick --