God's miracles in the Quran.

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  1. druni85

    druni85 Peon

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    #141
    quran proves everything but if you dont want to believe you cant see any proof
     
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  2. Louis11

    Louis11 Active Member

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    #142
    It doesn't prove anything, and claiming that it does prove something when there is no factual proof is completely idiotic. It's only real to you because you have faith, I understand that as I have faith in my own religion... however I am knowledgable enough to know that there is typically no scientific evidence to prove my beliefs, otherwise the entire world would follow it. It's faith, not fact. And Islam's great "prophet" was a horrible person ;)
     
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  3. Ahmad_Malik

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    #143
    I have investigated about them and ALL of them are true are true.

    Its not what this Christian says.
     
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  4. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #144
    Actually, author of The 100: A Ranking of the Most Influential Persons in History Michael Hart is Jewish according to wikipedia.
     
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  5. Ahmad_Malik

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    #145
    But he is still a non-Muslim, isn't he?
     
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  6. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #146
    Yes. Just posted that because you said he is a Christian and he is actually Jewish, that's all.
     
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    #147
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    Numbers mean nothing ...
    it could be everybody on earth except 1 person left being of a particular religion
    and that single person may have the truth and billions be completely misguided.

    It can actually be a miracle being in the minority. :)

    Religions on a membership drive won't tell you that.
     
    CosmicRay, May 13, 2007 IP
  8. Louis11

    Louis11 Active Member

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    #148
    There you go again. If you have investigated your claims, then post your conclusions here. Again, simply stating that its true doesn't make it so. I'm waiting for your research on the existence of allah, and the divinity of your religion.

    And as I have pointed out before, you don't know your religion very well. You blatantly stated that Muhammad was the first and only Prophet to ever exist, yet in a later post claim that Jesus, Moses, and Abraham where all prophets. As I suspect, you are going to post "proof" in the form of the Quran or some other biased article... and all I have to say is that we cannot take your "research" seriously, as you are unaware of the premise of your own religion.

    And simply because a person is influencial, doesn't mean they are right. Hitler's false pretense helped lead to the massacre of millions of people. He heavily influenced the course of human history, yet is regarded as one of the worst people to ever live. Kind of reminds me of Muhammad; creating a religion to solely benefit himself, whilst murding, stealing and fornicating with young girls. He was able to become so influencial because of people like you, who follow without questioning motives.

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    So doing a bit of googling for your username, I came across several posts on several forums. Surprisingly, they are all pro Islam, and discuss basically the same things we have discussed here. Here is an interesting photograph I found of a user called "Ahmad_Malik"...

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    On the Bebo profile you state you are from Pakistan, and in a post made earlier today you mention Pakistan as though you reside there.

    Same name, same country. I'm pretty sure it's you ;)

    http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=19910984
    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=AHMAD_MALIK&btnG=Google+Search

    16 year olds these days, think they know everyting. Still waiting for proof... The spiritual and scientific research that a person of your age will present must be so insightful! :D
     
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  9. Peace4all

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    #149
    One of the Quran thousands of miracle I shall try to tell you people. If I am wrong then who know the best can very well comment on this.

    The Miracle of number 19 in Quran

    The holy quran is having total of 114 surah (verses), and this figure is divisible by 19 without any remainder. All the verses are started with "Bismillahir Rahmanirraheem" (which means " In the name of Allah the most reciful and beneficient"), in Arabic this consists of 114 letters which is devisible by 19 and again remainder is 0.

    The surah "Tauba" is neither started with "Bismillahir Rahmanirraheem" nor at any portion of the complete surah this is used. But the surah "Namal" has got two "Bismillahir Rahmanirraheem" one at the start of the surah and another inside the surah. If Allah (swt) did not used the "Bismillahir Rahmanirraheem" in the middle of the surah, the explanation of the idea would not be affected. But Allah (swt) has used this "Bismillahir Rahmanirraheem" in the middle of the surah Namal and thus total number of "Bismillahir Rahmanirraheem" has become 114, thereby the 19 formula is matched.

    The same 19 formula is matched at the various places of Quran which is proofed by a Egyptian Scientist who made a deep research on the holy Quran.
     
    Peace4all, Mar 17, 2008 IP
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    #150
    Your 114 divided by 19 is the number of man or God? The Biblical number for God is 7, for man it's 6. This argument backfires on Islam badly.
     
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    #151
    How about a thread entitled spiritual truthes in the matrix & star wars.
    I think you will find a lot more than in the Quaran.
     
    darksat, Mar 18, 2008 IP
  12. Jackuul

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    #152
    Fire the pigeons!
     
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    #153
    I really did not know Man or God had numbers assigned to them.

    I just hate most religious discussions, where I always have to keep defending Islam as if I was born a terrorist, and now I have to prove it to the "good" guys why I am not. All ridiculous...
     
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  14. Rebecca

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    #154
    The number 7 ~ G-ds Divine Number
    Don't be silly gauharjk, no one thinks you are a terrorist.
     
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    Jackuul Well-Known Member

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    #155
    If ya'll would listen to me, put the pigeons in the cannon, and fire them - the world's problems would be stopped, for a few minutes.

    The dumbfounding of billions would pause all world activity in a universal "wtf?" moment.
     
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  16. Rebecca

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    #156
    Aaaw, but what about the pigeons!:(
     
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  17. ThraXed

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    #157
    If the Bible foretold many things, including the pope, Israel and many other things, then surley it must have something to say about the greatest benefactor of mankind? If you like Islam or not, you can't ignore the fact Muhammed has a following of approximatley 1.8 billion people, and a religion which is practised more than Christianity.

    Ahmad Deedat once asked a Priest, what does the bible say about Muhammed? Without hesitation he answered, "nothing!" Why nothing?" According to your interpretation of the bible, it even mentions the soviet union, the last days and the roman catholics, Deedat said. Surley this man, Muhammed, who had been responsible for bringing into being a worldwide community of over a Billion people, believers, who believe in with authority.
     
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    #158
    There may be 1.1 to 1.8 billion living under leadership that carries the banner of Islam but that doesn't make them "followers". We have a large number of Persians, Pakistanis, etc. here in Southern California and I've met very few that are devout followers.

    To get the thread back on topic, I find the "miracle" of the numbers 19 and 6 something more on the scale of software architecture, poetry and prose. It's interesting but well within human capabilities.
     
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    #159
    You either are a Muslim or you are not, just because you are from Pakistan or Persia dosen't mean your automatically a Muslim.
     
    ThraXed, Mar 20, 2008 IP