The Death Penalty

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    Will.Spencer, Mar 24, 2007 IP
  2. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    I also agree 100% too, in the UK as he pointed out people will sometimes get out within 10 years or worse still, even less.

    That means I could go out and kill someone tonight and be out within between 6 and 10 years, it's a complete joke.

    If the evidence is 100% conclusive, without any shadow of a doubt at all then it should be a life for a life. That is the only way it should be.
     
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    I agree and have dug (digged?) it.
     
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    Some people fill that no person should be put to death. You guys just haven't seen any blood in a while and I am sure you are itching...But I don't personally believe that people should have the right to put other people to death no matter the circumstance...Although I would secretly love to kill all of you ;) <---(this is a joker so don't go trying to take it out of context).
     
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    I also agree with the death penalty. Specially for drug dealers.
     
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    CountryBoy Prominent Member

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    I agree with the death penalty in clear cut cases of murder, where the scientific evidence is overwhelming. Sadly, even nowadays, some people are wrongly convicted by UK courts so if there's no scientific evidence it would be risky to execute them - as scummy as they may be.
     
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    I believe in an eye for an eye so its thumbs up for me for the death penalty. Just make sure the people being executed is without a doubt guilty of the crime.
     
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    I think that death is no penalty. You are just in jail until you are killed. You are not punished when you are dead. Jail for life on the other hand is a real penalty and real punishment. If you want a person really punished you don`t let him get away by being dead, you keep him in a cell.
     
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    Which is the problem in the UK because a life sentence doesn't normally mean life - it normally means about 15 years, maybe less if you're well behaved. Whole-life tariffs are reserved for only the most heinous of killers - the Myra Hindley's and Rose West's of the world.

    Prison is no deterrent - they have 3 square meals a day, nice cosy cell, television, pool tables and games consoles on the landings, free health care, free education, free use of gym equipment and exercise. All these perks free of charge - nobody pays tax when they're in prison.

    The tail wags the dog in the UK - total lunacy.

     
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    I think you have to try it before you say that it is cosy and good to be in jail.
     
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    They wrongly convict people all the time, usually poor people who can't afford a lawyer

    being for the death penalty is saying its ok to execute innocent people sometimes

    yeah, jails and prisons in the US are not like that, you do get free substandard health care, and food but there is not much of those other things.
     
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    I can tell you this on quite good authority since a close family member has worked in UK Prisons for the last 20 years. I don't even believe you're in the UK, are you?

     
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    Instead of killing off people, I think we need to find out how these people end up in these positions in the first place. Reintroducing the death penalty is only a short term gain for society. A lot of people would actually prefer to be in jail. Three meals a day, TV, a washroom, some people in jail are living better lives than people outside because they murdered someone.

    What really needs to go on, is to find out why people do illegal things in the first place and work from there. We need to get to the root of the problem instead of piling on more and more penalties. Although it may be hard, it will help in the long term, which is what I think would help everyone.
     
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    I agree, we must be 100% sure before putting people to death just look at Deathrow in America people have been found innocent & released it's only luck that an innocent man was not put to death.
     
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    The standard of the prisons in my country is also like you describe, I don`t deny that.
    But come on, you are very naive if you think that it is the stuff inside the prison that make the stay bad or good. You have to understand that it is the fact that you are in prison, your freedom is taken away, you are isolated from society and everything you love that is the penalty. Please lets lift the discussion up to a higher level and stop discussing if the prisoners should have one or two apples a day.
     
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    Will you should make a poll over this
     
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    Death penalty is known to increase serial crimes. If a person is determined to make a kill, no punishment will stop him/her from doing it. But knowing he/she'll die will make him/her commit more crimes till caught when he/she has nothing else to lose - do not underestimate the power of survival instinct. Also death penalty is frequently abused by deep powers of states and by people who feel trapped. Besides these, you can never be %100 sure no matter how solid the proofs appear to be or whether the suspect made a confession or not, there's always a chance that the verdict is false. So instead of authority murder, using them for hard work till death makes more sense. If you kill, you die sounds like if you rape you get raped anyways, which clearly is no solution to what happened.
     
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    Of course I'm wrong :rolleyes:
    The loss of liberty and isolation from society has that much of a deterrent effect that 67% (yes, that's sixty seven percent) of people in UK prisons have been there before. So obviously you're right.
     
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    people with nothing left to lose will risk even more and therefore commit bigger crimes.
     
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    Yeah, if they lose their life, there's no point in caring about what you do anymore.
     
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