War Starting Soon ? (IRAN - USA)

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  1. cupid

    cupid Peon

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    #141
    For example, your opponent goes to an adventure, put himself in a hole, and get infected with HIV. There is no cure. If you stay there, there is no cure and if you leave there is no cure. Eventual decline of health is eminent, and can prolong the livable health by taking drugs, but outcome is not healthy. When your credit history is bad, bankers won't lent you any money. Economics of money is more PATRIOTIC TO WALLET, and if any PATRIOTIC left, they will be patriotic to America.

    And people are associating Iraq policy with president Bush. Bush is like a face of a human body. Mr. Dick's adventure now infected the whole body.

    Also, Jaques Chirac, would like to see the world as multi polar in the future. But he can't come to terms with reality, Europe's influence in the world is declining or nil. He can't take the reality. His best hope is multi polar world, so Europe would have some say. Good thing TURKEY didn't join these TURKEYS. Turkey should look to EAST, and setup a FREE TRADE AGREEMENT with RUSSIA, CHINA and it's Asian nieghbours.

    Condalina Rice in Mid East for peace process. I can tell you, nothing going to come out of this. Only way Arabs and Jews, put their differences is when both of their survival is threatened. Omlert is considering peace with Syria, so they can build pipe line from Russia, Turkey to Israel, so it can bring Oil and water. When global warming plays a major role in the future, you can bet Arabs and Jews will get along fine. Like British foreign policy, divide and conquer, this is what is American foreign policy in Middle East.
     
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  2. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #142
    Do you mean Mr. Dick has been in a bad hole and now he has infected Bush? :D
     
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  3. Dead Corn

    Dead Corn Peon

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    #143
    Hah! Sorry chulium, this post is for cupid, the eternal chub:

    He wrote:
    My initial answer to this one dimensional observation was: Ah, [cupid], did you not yet realize the world is round?

    But now I would like to add something. You, cupid, seem to think it's an embarrassment to support Israel. It is not. Regarding the Middle East the only embarrassment per our loyalty swings way to the other side. When we support ignorant, stubborn, fanatical, bloodthirsty, back-stabbing, terrorist supporting, women-hating, middle-age mentality ridden Arab countries.

    In case they have'nt figured it out yet allow me to elaborate once more. The Arab countries are untrust-worthy, volatile, ignorant, stubborn, fanatical, bloodthirsty, back-stabbing, terrorist supporting, women-hating, middle-age mentality ridden countries and this is why we support Isarael. They are to us an oasis of sanity and intelligence in a desert of untrust-worthy, volatile, ignorant, stubborn, fanatical, bloodthirsty, back-stabbing, terrorist supporting, women-hating, middle-age mentality ridden countries.

    Do you understand?
     
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  4. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #144
    it is very obvious that in most Arab countries the government use Israel to absolve themselves of all the responsibilities. they steal their nations wealth abuse its people silence the opposition keep a majority of their underclass uneducated and blame it all on Israel. they do that by controlling the clergy and abusing their religion . who elected the religious leaders in saudi arabia i bet the king .in the golden age of Islam there were a lot of scientists and poets and inventors and scholars. mathematics physic chemistry and all sciences were studied so what is happening now? it is absurd that in some parts of Islamic world education consist of religious schools for a vast number of youth.
    all the Arabs and muslins in the world should be thankful that monster is removed and dead and they should all do whatever they can to make sure that iraq becomes a democracy so maybe they can enjoy the freedoms associated with it someday. or do they want rulers like sadam or taliban
    i hop iranians will also remove their government soon so they can enjoy true freedom like the rest of us
    wake up! stop with blaming Israel and start working on improving your own
     
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  5. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #145
    Do you mean Republican party? :D
     
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  6. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #146
    Pretty sure he was talking about your buds, gworld.
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #147
    Alert- Mad dog barking. :D
     
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  8. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #148
    And to think, you could have used that opportunity to say something bad about your buds :D

    BTW, got some more of your buds in Iraq!
     
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  9. Dead Corn

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    #149
    How typical of you, qworld, that after reading the following...
    ...you would question if I was referring to other than Arab governments. Either you are an Arab official yourself, or have been spending too much time trying to reason with representatives of their repressive, pathetic governments and now suffer from a form of the dreaded Helsinki Syndrome.
     
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  10. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #150
    You should question why the worst of those Arab countries such as Saudi Arabia are such good friends with present Administration and personal friends / business partners with Bush and his family?
    What do these people, Republican party and Bush have in common that makes them the best of friends? :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Dead Corn

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    #151
    They are countries, soveriegn nations, that have a history of mutually helping one another's economies primarily. But just like the United Fruit Company did not tell those South American dictators what to do with their money or how to treat their people, neither can we tell Saudi Arabia how to treat it's people.

    If you want to blame a nice big fat check in the hands of an Arab sultate for the repression of his people I think you need some soul-searching. We buy the oil - he represses his people. Some people just love to blame others. They do so at the risk of exposing their immaturity and affinity for the easy answer which solves exactly nothing.
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #152
    United fruit company was the government in south America but even if forget about the role of governments; how about the big fat checks that they put in the hands of Bush senior and Bush junior? :rolleyes:
     
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  13. AGS

    AGS Notable Member

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    #153
    Don't forget the rest of the Bush cabal too mate, they're all creaming it in.

    Look at Cheney, every time I see him speaking it's almost as if he's snarling. He's an evil bastard no doubt about it.
     
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  14. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #154
    why? what happend to spreading freedom and democracy?
     
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  15. cupid

    cupid Peon

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    #155
    I agree with you. Actually, when I read that, my heart kind of stopped. So are the golden days of America. So was the time when Newton, and Watts were born. Need an immediate action to fix the current problem.

    Iraq and Vietnam is not the same. Vietnam (mostly oriental way of fighting) hard to WIN in the beginning, and if you won, MAINTAINING is walk in the park (they are homogeneous). Iraq is on the other hand, easy to WIN at the beginning, NIGHTMARE to hold on to.

    During the history of civilizations, Iraq has seen many BARBARIANS at the GATES and rebuilt itself. But the question is, would America would be able to rebuild itself? I think America really needs a DRAFT NOW, 4 years precious time has been lost. It is always easy to nip it in the bud.
     
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  16. pizzaman

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    #156
    i was thinking of what i should write back for a few minutes so here it goes
    the future of iraq and US are not connected. they are just crossing paths
    both can decide if its going to be a positive or negative experience
    iraqi people should stop bickering and embrace democracy for their own benefit and us should walk out in the next 8-12 month regardless

    if iraq becomes a democracy the other dictators can fall also and with all the money from the oil there can be another golden age.thousands of universities can be built libraries factories and so on it is not impossible remember how the soviet block just disappeared. all the young educated Arabs and moslems should support this transition and promote it. remember god works in mysterious ways
    the only way that a government does good for its people is when it gets its power from its people. democracy is the only form of government that people keep the power rather than surrendering it .
     
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  17. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #157
    yes, you have been, you are, and you continue to bark...if you like, i will be happy to get you a rabies shot at my vets office, just let me know what day is good for you.:D
     
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  18. Dead Corn

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    #158
    I am in the restaurant business. I do not pretend to be in the oil business. What individuals in the oil business do with their money is their business. Not mine. What I do with mine is none of theirs. Your reference was the Saudi Arabia / Bush relationship. Personally I think it goes way beyond the simplistic answer you seek. What you conveniently defer from, however, is the mistreatment of the Saudi government (so like all the other Arab muslim nations) of their own people and their women. Again, we don't tell them what to do with the money we, and, even if you like, the Bush's, give to them for their oil. Here in America we would never stand for such treatment. Nor would our leaders ever attempt to treat their people, especially their women, with such contempt. Especially under the guise of "religion."

    They treat their people like shit. They treat their women worse than shit. And what does Bush have to do with that?

    I certainly don't know of any of Al Queda push for the equality of women. Everywhere the fundamental muslim rules one finds conditions of democracy and freedom of speech (what you are here currently enjoying) abolished. Everywhere the fundamental muslim rules we find women that are treated like animals. What does Bush have to do with this?

    You harangue yet you are transparently full of it.
     
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  19. AGS

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    #159
    Rubbish post again d16man.

    I remember just a few weeks ago you had about 500 posts.

    You are catching up with your mentor GTech real quick. :p

    Keep posting I am sure he is proud of you! :D
     
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  20. gworld

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    #160
    Democracy and freedom of speech has disappeared even in Christian societies that are controlled by USA and there is no Muslim fundamentalist. Look at all the dictators in South America that kill and torture their people with full blessing of US government. USA even run a school to teach them how to be more efficient in organizing torture and death squads for the people in those countries. You are not going to claim that US government is run by Muslim fundamentalist, are you? :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, Feb 19, 2007 IP