I do not believe the plane hit the lawn. It went low enough to take down some light posts, and also some sort of air handling equipment outside the pentagon. I posed this in an earlier thread. The pictures of the air handling equipment destroyed and forced inward due to the impact of the wing engine pretty much debunks any missile/pentagon theory. I posted the picture in another thread. I referenced it earlier, but I'm not going to look it up again for this minor point. Loose change also shows a faulty impact direction for the plane into the pentagon. It assumes a perpendicular impact with the buildling. The plane hit at an angle closer to 45 degrees - I posted a great video on what theoretically happened to the plane upon impact. Physics learned from Bugs Bunny is the only possible explanation that people think a wing would make an impression on a reinforced building. Wings travel through air, not concrete. Look what happens to a plane when it hits the water; everything but the fuselage practically disintegrates. Wings are hollow, save wires and fuel. There is no solid construction there to give it the mass to go through a reinforced structure. Or electrical transformers. or air conditioner compressed gases going off. Anything. Its impossible to know what it is, and to try to make a conclusion based off it, is silly. As I said, this explosion is ,again, actually contrary to the evidence that a bomb fell wtc7. Eyewitnesses are generally the worst people to ask what happened. If you stood 20 people out on the street and caused an accident, you'd get 20 different versions of the same event. Just because someone was "there" doesn't necessarily make them a better witness.
Notice the pattern here? New CT fresh out of the gullible garden: "Here, this issue, it says so in the video of the nutjob I follow." People with common sense: "This issue is incorrect because of rationale answer." New CT fresh out of the gullible garden: "Okay, then what about this one?" People with common sense: "This issue is false in assumption because of rationale answer." New CT fresh out of the gullible garden: "but, but, but what about ... ?" Just one, after the other after the other after the other. Never caring how many lies are exposed by their leaders, never caring how everything is debunked. Just that one...one little something, somewhere, might not be able to be answered, and that's all that matters. Does anyone else see the failing strategy there?
Reminds me of a few months ago, when we'd get a new Islamist in the forum. The previous one was finally exposed, then he'd disappear and a new one would come in and it'd all start from scratch again. Same thing.
I like Brainiac, of course it would be interesting if the themite theory turned into something of interest, but let's just assume for a minute that thermite was placed in the tower. Was that really enough thermite to burn melt the pillars? Why was it only seen at one place? How did they ensure the thermite to stay in the building while the Airplanes fuel took fire? Or was it planted on the airplane from the beginning? why didn't it take affect directly after the plane hit as seen in the brainiac movie? Have thermite been used before to demolish steel buildings? When I think about, wouldn't the easiest way be to place a big bomb inside the planes instead? ___________ The molten metal that dropped out was obviously aluminum from the plane, why would it not drop out? Since you're a reasonable person, I suggest you to take a look here and tell me if you find any flaws in the explanation.
no-one looked at my thermite movie of only 4 minutes, i so wanted to waste 2 hours of your life, but thought 4 minutes would be enough but the CT mob dont have the attention span of a goldfish so i had to find a short movie for them iron oxide (rust) all wtc steal was covered in rust thermite can only ignight at 2800f (1537c) and the reaction is 4500f (2482c) an electrical short (spark) is over the temprature needed to cause the reaction to start
I remember the days. From mufti's to imams, they all took their turns trying to dumb down the infidel. Then came the wacademic apologist in denial. I particularly enjoyed your line of questioning that exposed menj as the extremist he was. DP sure attracts the deranged and delusional
i think you missed the point of what i said, i never said thermite was in the towers, i just told you what thermite is, ((iron oxide) common rust) and aluminium. the plane was mostly aluminium. and the wtc steal was covered in rust (iron oxide) you have the 2 things that make up thermite, right there.
Our government fears a guy that I would be willing to bet most people never heard of. I've not seen a movie about him. I've not seen any mention in the days that followed that sticks out in my memory. I really do not remember ever hearing about this guy to be honest. Rudi Guliani sticks out more in my mind. So are a great many of us. What he saw, he saw from the inside. He had no idea what was going on. Dazed, confused, and I'm sure completely unaware at the time as to what was going on, as a great many where. If anything, that makes him a bit less reliable as an "eye" witness.. Besides, most of his rantings appear to be more "ear" witness than eye witness. Really? CNN cut him short in their interview. RODRIGUEZ: " and we heard on the radio that the 65th floor collapsed. It collapsed. BROWN: Mr. Rodriguez, let me stop you there at the 65th floor, and let me add you are a lucky man, it seems like, today. Thank you for joining us." So were my aunt and uncle. Customs Officers, working there longer than old Rod. I did not get the same story from them. Where did you read this? He was not head of maintenance. He was in charge of the stair cases in tower one. "My routine on the World Trade Center is in charge of the staircase, and since there was no elevator service, I have the master keys for all the staircase doors." FROM: (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.24.html) He was just a "maintenance worker", not the "head of maintenance". The Port Authority did not trust him with anything. He sued them when he got stuck in an elevator one day. He DOES not, or DID he ever have 1 of 5 master keys that unlock every any door in the WTC. What he had, and he said it himself back on September 11, 2001 (from above as well) "I have the master keys for all the staircase doors." (http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.24.html) Yes, Mr. RRODRIGUEZ has master keys to the staircase doors. Not "any door" in the WTC. This is such a pile of bull shit. I cannot believe you are buying into this. There were not 5 master keys to any door in the WTC. That is just a complete pile of hogwash. They do? Who specifically? Source Who said any of this testimony was either withheld or not? Where did you get this information? Just curious. Bribed? Bribed about what? WHEN? Hell, Rodriguez first spoke to the press by telephone ON 911 !!! You're telling me that he and these 50 other people were contacted that day, prior to talking to the press? Apparently it is. How much do you think Alex paid him? You think he did this for free? Remember, this guy learned on the job as a janitor how "press releases" work, and how to conduct "press releases" and other such stuff. You can't get a better bit of on the job training than that. Eves dropping on the former governor. Damn, Rodo sounds like a genius to me now. Never blamed Bush? Really? Then why did he try to sue Bush (http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/Press ReleaseRod.htm) "WORLD TRADE CENTER RESCUE HERO SUES BUSH AND OTHERS UNDER RICO STATUTE, ALLEGES WILLFUL COMPLICITY IN ATTACKS THAT KILLED 3,000. By Margaret Atheling Rowe PHILADELPHIA, PA, OCTOBER 22, 2004 On September 11, 2001, William Rodriguez, a maintenance worker at the World Trade" Been watching "triple X" again" Even moonbats can have college degrees Doug. No offense, but something tells me you lost your "freethinking" when you bought into this bunk.
With all do respect MIA, this just proves all things can be spun. I appreciate that you gave consideration to my thoughts. That is all I asked and you did. Now that is American. As for William…I believe him. His testimony is enough for me (from his mouth). He was a responsible American who saved lives and is a hero. I for one used to believe our government would never lie, burry independent media stories, intimidate witnesses, or create evidence. But eyewitness victims are demonized for not submitting to the government-approved story. They are told; 1) you must have been confused 2) you didn’t see what you thought you seen 3) what you heard was something else 4) what others said was not accurate When we get to a point that pressure from others of higher authority try to change our mind on simplistic experiences in life, it invites danger. I certainly have authority over my children and can make them believe whatever I want. But, I would rather share information with them (accurate to the best of my ability) and then let them decide. Again, thanks for giving attention. P.S. I am kind of-liking this Moon Bat position for a change…lol I need a new tin hat. Got a pic for me?
Fair enough. I like that you can all provide evidence to show another, possibly more, "common sense" side. But about this Binladin issue, I mean c'mon, how long does it take to find one guy? I think it's naive to think that the superpowers don't know his whereabouts..
These fools forget one thing: All we heard, hour after hour, day after day, week after week was "Bin Laden" and "Al-qaeda" over and over again, the mantra picking up with every additional news report. Then, in 2002 when Bush was asked about Bin Laden in March 2002 he actually said "You know, I just don't spend that much time on him." http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html I find this absolutely astonishing, but the sheeple seem to accept it. Bin Laden was public enemy number #1 but only a few months later Bush doesn't spend that much time on him. WTF??? Here is GTechs hero on Sept 17th 2k1 http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/17/bush.powell.terrorism/ Also the most of the evidence (steel) was shipped off to China without a full investigation. What about the black boxes too? This whole thing stinks. Other OBL links: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/14/barnes-osama/
I think you underestimate Al Qaida. And Israel haven't found Hassan Nasrallah. But Afghanistan is much bigger than Lebanon and got many caves. I think you should appreciate all lives that your country's anti-terrorism legislation saves.
Holy Crap that is funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need one of those. LMAO Lorien. Made me laugh. I tried to rep you but it say's I must spread it around. I am forwarding this pic to my family....ha
Remember this post Gtech. When you have the NAFTA Superhighway running through your back garden (the NAFTA Super Highway is going through right now) The North American Union has opened up your borders to both Canada and Mexico (it's happening) and you got thousands of Mexicans taking your jobs, you are sat there spending your AMERO (already planned) and the draft has been called to go off to the Middle East to fight a total bullshit "War ON Terror" then you might think of me and say, "That crazy moonbat AGS was right.@ It's all happening and most of you sheeple don't even realize it.
RMFAO!!!!!! You mean like these "Super Caves" that lying idiot Rumsfeld told us all about??? LOL mate you made my night. Scroll to 3 minutes 45 seconds. See the bullshit from Rumsfeld and see what the caves were actually like. LOL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBVVs9hcmRY RUMSFELDS WATCHED TOO MUCH OF THE SHOW BATMAN WHEN HE WAS YOUNGER I THINK, LMFAO.
Actually the post you started to tell the world how you admire a terrorist who openly wants to murder millions of Jews and denies the holocaust was far more memorable. My man, you need treatment in the worst possible way.