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Here is the proof "d16man" and Gtech, that the link Iraq - Al Qaed was fabricated ...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ST12, Feb 9, 2007.

  1. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #81
    you will see my point if you look at the last video but you don't dare.
    POINThttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjyPcYasODs&mode=related&search=

    EDIT read post 63 then to get your answer for post 62
     
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  2. ST12

    ST12 Active Member

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    #82
    Gtech,
    IF Saddam had WMD He WOULD HAVE USED THEM AGAINST OUR TROOPS!!!

    As simple as that.
     
    ST12, Feb 11, 2007 IP
  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #83
    According to the UN, some were moved to Syria.

    According to the NYT, some were looted. If weapons are moved and looted, how does one find them? Sarin and Mustard munitions were found. The agents still deadly. No one willing to store them in their home under their children's beds.

    2005, Chemical WMD *were* discovered in Iraq. Fresh chemical WMD.

    You can continue to deny if you want, but all it does is give aid and comfort to our enemies. Which, may very well be what you are doing, again.

    No one is claiming "all" were found. But *some* were. I've highlighted that from various news sources from a broad spectrum including the liberal's favorite, NYT.

    Anymore denial?
     
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  4. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #84
    How could he when he was running from us? As simple as that...
     
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  5. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #85
    according to Bush they were not there he said it you can see it in the video
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soohikNdbWs
    here is more point
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4G6F1_ps3P0
     
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  6. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #86
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  7. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #87
    we know what your agenda is, pizzaboy ;)
     
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  8. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #88
    the question is what is yours i posted mine
     
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  9. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #89
    warning: spam alert...trying to raise that post count? There is an edit button you know...



    And the reason Bush said it, I believe, is because like you, most young angry white males don't realize that WMD constitutes more than just nukes....let me say that simpler for you. Just because you don't have a nuke doesn't mean you don't have WMDs....all the gas, nerve, sarin, mustard, etc. that has been found is a type of WMD...so what Bush said was that there were no nukes...and if you will read that whole speech, he was referring to the pre-war intelligence about Iraq trying to get a nuke...hence the whole valerie plame (non) affair....
     
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  10. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #90
    you are such a m---n every body knows that the intelligence about wmd were wrong and every one knows what wmd is and every one knows there was no wmd. the question now is how did they get it so wrong. where have you been the last few years

    the question about the nukes is did they know that there was no nuke question when they were saying it and did if they tried to hide that fact.
     
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  11. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #91
    pizzaboy is about to shed some tears over the fact that *some* wmd have been found. But then last week, he admitted he didn't care about the truth anyway. Set his agenda in motion.
     
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  12. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #92
    So if they got it wrong, what is all the information that GTech has given? What is that, is it made up? Explain it if you know so much.
     
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  13. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #93
    they are all false
    at least according to the president
     
    pizzaman, Feb 11, 2007 IP
  14. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #94
    He's not interested in it. It would dispell his delusional thinking. He believes he holds an ace with Bush saying that none were found. This is, from an overall bigger picture. What has been found, isn't anywhere near what was considered to exist. Just a tiny fraction. I take no issue with that, nor do I try to suggest otherwise.

    What I do suggest, and what a broad spectrum of news stories I've sourced it, that *some* have been found. And the NYT ran a story that some was looted. And the UN said some was moved to Syria.
     
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  15. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #95
    Nope, the president is speaking from the overall HUGE picture. However, it's not that the president is, or isn't lying. What has been found is a very small fraction, probably not enough for them to consider it a significant find. But, some were, as documented.

    Besides, the president is correct. You can't find wmd (not the huge stockpiles the media demanded) when the NYT admitted they were looted and the UN says some were moved to Syria. How do you explain such?

    You don't explain it. Because you are not interested in the truth.
     
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  16. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #96
    They are all false...yeah, thats believable...I guess all the pictures were fabricated, I guess all the news agency's are so gullible that they took video and wrote stories about something that is not true...this just in...Elvis was spotted in a UFO flying over the north pole and picking up santa clause last night....
     
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  17. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #97
    no nukes
    no wmd
    no 911 connection
    and as of now exaggerated alqada connection according to the pentagon
    facts are facts
    now we are acting like a gambling addict in a casino that have lost a lot of money and since he don't want to be a loser is trying to use his mortgage payment and increasing the bet.
    time to get rid of neocons and find some real republican and conservatives to
    try to get it right i just hope it is not too late
     
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  18. pizzaman

    pizzaman Active Member

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    #98
    yes they are all false why don't you call your congressman's office to find out
     
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    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #99
    What i learned when reading through fletcher proutys book called the secret team is never to believe the media about anything. You must get a source that is much closer to the action. Who better for this then the people this is actually happening to in these countries.

    Prouty has more knowledge of this than anyone on these boards because he helped procure the weapons needed for these special opps like illegally taking out mossadegh in iran(even though he wasnt militarily aggressive towards any country, which led iran to turn to islamic extremism today), trying to assasinate castro in cuba (even though we originally helped to bring him to power),qasm in iraq. The list goes on. People let me ask u a question. Can you believe anyone that keeps lieing to u? When do u start doubting them? Or do u stick ur head in the sand and just blindly trust with total faith anyone that has been manipulating you for the last 50 years. Again i ask why is the info of the jfk assasination being kept from us until the year 2029?

    I am very idealistic and i was brought up to believe in freedom and democracy. The one our founding fathers believed in. Is this what we have today? How do u think people like jefferson and washington would feel today with the way our government has been conducting business?
     
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  20. Edz

    Edz Peon

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    #100
    Now we're making progress! You mean these 1: lies? And this 2:lie? and 3:these wmd and these 4: wmd and 5: these wmd and 6: these wmd? Or, how about 7: this wmd find, or even 8: these wmd?

    1: Not even worth responding to.

    2: Great story Gtech, too bad it refers to 17 december 1998 which is the date that Operation Desert Fox commenced.
    It's not the "facts" presented by Powell from which is found what to be true GTech? What is actually found what was presented by Powell?

    3: Oh yeah, 500 containers/projectiles of degraded sarin nerve agent and mustard blister agent contained in the discovered munitions that had long since lost their viability, and as such represented no threat whatsoever.

    Where these actually presented as well by Powell GTech?
    Nah, didn't think so or am i wrong?

    4: Great source, not worth linking to, why not give a link to prisonplanet : if it contained a story on WMD found you would

    5: There is no proof of WMD there GTech, got anything else?

    Also: Your VX http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=25263 speculation is also very weak and debated to such a point you in the end did actually did not have anything concrete to show other then speculation.


    6:
    Material? Could as well be cotton balls?
    Including some? Hmmm, better start speculating if you have nothing concrete to show.

    Or better yet just drop the whole thing and resign: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...SFFOAVCBQ0IV0?xml=/news/2004/01/24/wirq24.xml

    Precisely what went to Syria, and what has happened to it, is a major issue that needs to be resolved

    Gtech will cover this daunting task :D but more likely he will just take the course of action as Mr. Kay did.

    And Gtech still does :D
    Too bad you wheren't there hey Gtech ;) I'll bet you would have found them!

    7: Yeah, definitely concrete proof there buddy ;)

    By the way was this presented by Powell?
    Nah, didn't think so as well.

    8:
    They came in with cranes....they came in with lorries...
    What parts could be made then Gtech?

    A senior Iraqi official?

    Looks more like propaganda broadcasted from the Bush administration to me.

    Really, you have brought NOTHING but then absolutely NOTHING to the table as the Bush administration that justified the war since the justification is based on lies and deception.

    At least Powell knows when to part with people that are simply lying to justify a war that is solely based on the guarantee of the flow of oil to into the U.S. economy.
     
    Edz, Feb 11, 2007 IP