Mischief that could get you put to death according to Islam

5:32. "Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land-it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!"

The punishment, according to Islam for murder and "mischief" is death. So what constinstutes "mischief?"

If any of the above listed are incorrect or you know of additional "mischiefs" and can demonstrate proof, post in this thread.

Interestingly a Muslim on this board posted an edited version of the leading verse

Apparently, that is standard practice. This is not surprising since the edited portion supports the terrorist agenda.

 

Trying to cause more mischief are we KalvinB?!

 

That would be funny if your religion wasn't so deadly serious. You can't just try to laugh off the very foundation of terrorism that is glaringly visible in the Koran itself.

So, are you just going to just ignore this problem? Or can you answer the following questions:

Who defines what is "mischief?"
What is "mischief?"
Who has the authority to punish those who cause "mischief?"

 

The bible version of the same. It is not surprising that these prophets are blood thirsty since they lived about 2000 and 1400 years ago at a violent time. What is surprising is the fact that even today some countries like Iran, China, USA,... have death penalty.

 

Old Testament, as usual.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=110161

 

Answers
1)Allah does
2)Allah knows the true meaning in this context
3)Allah does- not me, you or any other individual

How can I ignore or solve a problem if its not there?
You think/'know' there is a problem so YOU should solve this PROBLEM

 

Old GTech trick........WHY HAVE IT AS PART OF THE BIBLE THEN??????- seems a bit pointless, but then again.......

 

Historical context. The laws and times of the Old Testament were harsh times, to be sure. A set of laws one had to abide by to get to heaven. Jesus came and fulfilled the Old Testament prophecy.

This is exactly why so many have a hard time trying to mesh the Old Testament with the New Testament. And when we try to put the old scriptures of choice into context, they simply do not make sense:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=110161

 

What is that definition?
What is the true meaning?
If it was allah's job then why did he say it was okay for a person b to kill person a when person a causes mischief in the land?

 

Actually he doesn't know the bible, he is just interested to spread his hatred and racism around. Otherwise he would have known that both Mark and Luke quotes that were quoted in my previous post are from new testament .

 

I like how gw can't understand parables. In fact, he probably wasn't even aware that a verse he quoted was from a story Jesus was telling. It's ridiculous how many people can't understand the difference between descriptive and prescriptive dialog. And, in the process gw completely missed the point of the dialog: "use what God gives you" and "hypocricy." Not "kill your enemies" and "kill your parents."

The enemies were all destroyed when the King came to call all into account: Judgement Day. Also, his servants were ordered to round up the wicked. Those would be his angels as he reiterated with the parable of the wheat and the weeds. The angels sorted the two. Not just any believer.

Back to keeping gw ignored.

Even if gw did manage to understand the Bible and he was correct it has zero to do with Islam. If you murder someone and say "well so did so and so!" that doesn't excuse you from being punished.

 

gworld makes a bigger fool of himself than I ever could make of him, leaving me feeling embarrassed at times, as to how easy he makes it. It's like safari hunting at the zoo. What's the point?

 

The Jesus didn't say Moses was bull shitting and don't listen to him, he was confirming the same idea. In gospel of Luke the point of the story was those who listen to him will be rewarded and other will be punished but it is very common that you don't get the point.

It is strange as some one who is supporting the death penalty in USA including the execution of children, you are against killing when it is presented by other religions.

 

Incorrect. It was a parable and the point of the story, if you actually read Mark 7, is pointing out hypocrisy over the objection the Pharisees had of the disciples not washing their hands before eating.

And the conclusion of the story?

I'd point out again, how easy you make it, but I feel too guilty doing it.

 

Gtech

let's make this simple and answer this question, are you against death penalty or for it?

No usual BS, "you support terrorists because you ask me this question" answer. It is very simple, are you for or against death penalty?

 

Those who don't listen to God will be punished...by God. Not by Christians but by God Himself.

It's neat how it's impossible to talk about Islam. I really want to know what constitutes "mischief" according to Islam.

If you don't want to discuss that topic then start your own thread and stop hijacking mine. This is not a thread for discussing the teachings of Christ. It's a thread for discussing the teachings of Muhammad and what he believed "mischief" was.

 

I ask you the same question as I asked Gtech, are you for or against death penalty?

I am discussing the topic, you are just upset that I don't join your hate group and shine a light on what you really are.

 

That's because you are part of the Christian/Jew/America/dmoz hate group. Never a bad word for terrorists though, right?

 

He only hates dmoz because they list other child p-rn sites and not his.

 

Unless it's cut and paste fluff, getting answers is like pulling teeth around here.