Who is misleading millions of Christians - God or Devil ?

Of course you are right, so far you have posted (said) a lot of nonsense.

 

which part is non-sense? I put it in very simple terms that even a retard could understand (for your benefit), yet you still cannot grasp the explanation to lay the foundation... which befuddles me. Truly, say you jest when pretend you cannot even grasp simple conceptual thinking???

 

Is this a case of mine is bigger than yours? I don't think anyone knows what you both are on about....

 

lol, well it goes to show, regardless of your intentions, the lefties (not democrats, but hard core lefties), no matter what the dicussion, will refuse to accept any thoughts from anyone that doesn't "toe the line".

It's sad cause I thought we could have a good, educational discussion on some of the harder sciences by laying a solid foundation of what is what and why things arent what they appear to be (namely, who even the Universe in observation is dispicably deceptive, running at less than .1% efficiency).

But, knowing I am not a lefty, Believe in God and am pro-war, my opinion, regardless of truth, is null.

and they wonder what keeps people apart...

 

First lets get this straight

Theory of everything (TOE)


Theory of everything (TOE) is the final general used term

The unifield Field Theory or Grand unification theory (which is called GUT not GUFT; not too people even use guft) works into TOE(Theory of Everything) which is the final most popular used term.

How the hell does this has anything to do with what (TOE) is?

 

LOL, that is funny.

Before you make even bigger fool of yourself, read this:

"Saint Thomas's argument is this:

1. Everything is caused by something other than itself
2. Therefore the universe was caused by something other than itself.
3. The string of causes cannot be infinitely long.
4. If the string of causes cannot be infinitely long, there must be a first cause.
5. Therefore, there must be a first cause, namely god.

The most telling criticism of this argument is that it is self-refuting. If everything has a cause other than itself, then god must have a cause other than himself. But if god has a cause other than himself, he cannot be the first cause. So if the first premise is true, the conclusion must be false.

To save the argument, the first premise could be amended to read:


1'. Everything except god has a cause other than itself.

But if we're willing to admit the existence of uncaused things, why not just admit that the universe is uncaused and cut out the middleman? David Hume wondered the same thing:


But if we stop, and go no farther, why go so far? Why not stop at the material world? ... By supposing it to contain the principle of its order within itself, we really assert it to be god; and the sooner we arrive at that Divine Being, so much the better. When you go one step beyond the mundane system, you only excite an inquisitive humor, which it is impossible ever to satisfy.[5]

The simplest way to avoid an infinite regress is to stop it before it starts. If we assume that the universe has always existed, we don't need to identify its cause."

The `Big Bang' Argument for the Existence of God - Theodore Schick, Jr.

 

Which is exactly what I said, one is the nickname for the other. What part of this confuses you?

Well you're the one saying how much you know, how smart you are, telling me I am making nonsense for trying to explain things...so I am calling you out to explain how .618 (aka: the Divine Principle, the geometric equation, aka: the Golden Rule, 6.18 or 61.8 relate to the GUFT).
It's an answer that anyone with half an inkling of the Quantum Realms will know and answer or can easily surmise an answer too. And since you are pretending to know so much, I am giving you this question because you cannot google the answer and I am highly doubtful that you can answer "How are they related?"
it's a simple question, I shall repeat: How are the GUFT and the Divine Principle related? what effect does one play on the other?

Come now, surely a man of your genius can't be stumped by a simple mathematical principle? I gave you one big huge hint already although I didn't point it out as one; so again, for your benefit, is the hint repeated:
1+1=2/1=.5

Gworld

Not understanding why your posting someones bigbang thoughts... how is that relevant to what I am trying to explain to you and your simple friend?

 

JOJO, read the last sentence in that quote and see if you can understand it.

 

I understand the quote qworld, but I do not understand it's relevance to the conversation.

 

Because finally, despite everything you have to repeat Saint Thomas's argument in order to prove there is a God and it is already been refuted.

 

I'm not quoting "St Thomas" or anyone, simply going off of my own studies. If you'd stop, sit back and have a dialoque instead of throwing out ad hominems, you'd know that. I am not trying to prove "God", but moreso, to show that, like Sagan and Penrose believed, "something" or "someone" caused the Universe.

But I can't just jump in saying random formulas showing as such or theories as to why, how, where or when without first building the foundation to my belief and evidence as such.

So much more than you can possibly realise is out there, and it is absolutely mind numbing to contemplate the enormity of it.

Perhaps if you would be a gentleman and discuss instead of acting like a preteen hiding behind the internet, you might find these things out.

 

No, you did not exactly say that. You said I was wrong, then I had shown that I was right. see links:
Your post:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2122764&postcount=60
My post:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=2122904&postcount=65

Once again:
First there is no such scientific terms as "Quantum Realm".

Secondly unified field theory is GUT NOT GUFT

Thirdly there is no connection between (GUT) and the "Divine Principle"; the "Divine Principle" is just some religious nonsense, it is not science
or mathematical, so why the hell would I want to find a relationship between the two?

You seem to be borderline insane, and a lost cause. I hope you one day escape from grasp of the Unification Church. I have given you enough information to spin-around. I'm done with you.

 

You ARE wrong when saying that they are two different things; they are one in the same, you are trying to argue semantics and you look absolutely ignorant.

and once again you prove to me your lack of reading comprehension skills. As I have stated TWICE before already, it is a term I use to save typing to define Theory, Mathematics and Physics. What part of that confuses you? Are you a simpleton that cannot understand ONE simple sentence for your lack of comprehension???

Last chance to answer before I blow your cover or portending to be intelligent.
here's another hint (keep in mind the first one)
1+2=3/2=?

Another hint: Everything in the Universe, from the shape of a Galaxies spiral to the design on a butterflies wings to the very qualities we enjoy hearing in music, is based on this principle.

right, try to align me with whomever you want for your absolute lack of knowledge on the subject. At least I am not the one quoting NOVA farcing myself off as a pseudo intellectual, but not able to settle a very simple mathematical principle, only trying to hide behind ad hominem attacks.

You son, are without merit and without class.

 

Yes, it was a big green man who farted and started started the universe. You were right in both cases, it was someone (The big green man) who started the universe by something (A big fart).

 

wow, gee whiz. I truly gave you much more credit than you were worth. I apologize for thinking you were above the age of 12 and could handle an adult conversation.

 

When discussion comes to "something" or "someone"... then it is not adult discussion, it is fantasy nonsense.

 

Its interesting how its always a muslim who attacts the Christian belif. Its not the first time its happened, just switch on your tv and you will find a muslim moaning about somthing to do with Christianity or the westen world. What is the reaction from the christians to this? They show respect, try to correct their muslim friends, but are often shouted at or condemed. I feel that some muslims (including yourself MrMojo) should stop trying to point out other people's mistakes and take a look at your own. Christians show respect, you woulnt find a thread here made by a christian that challenges a muslims belifs, this is because we are commanded to respect others belifs, it would be nice if the muslims would do the same, believe what you want, but leave Christianity to the Christians.

Btw JW and Christianity is not the same, JW's believe some very different things, its like calling Buddists and Islam the same.

God Bless

 

LOL. Mojo is a card carrying Christian bigot.

But I understand your confusion since his postings are such a total nonsense that it is easy for anyone to get confused about what he is actually "trying" to say.

 

Muslims will stop attacking Christian BELIEF. But Christians like Bush and Blair MUST STOP attacking muslim men, women and children in the first place.

Switch off your tv and STOP your leaders to kill our people and looting our oil wealth.

We know Good Christians they are very pious people. You know what Mohammad said about GOOD CHRISTIANS:

"..And you will find that the closest people in friendship to the believers are those who say, "We are Christian." This is because they have priests and monks among them, and they are not arrogant. [Qur'an 5:82]

When they hear what was revealed to the messenger, you see their eyes flooding with tears as they recognize the truth therein, and they say, "Our Lord, we have believed, so count us among the witnesses. [5:83]


So my brother/sister, PLEASE don't label all muslims as 'Terr0rists'.

Muslims have many problems that are created by 'Mullas' and Arabian Dictators after the time of Mohammed. You people are accusing Mohammad with 'evidence' found in books written after 250 to 300 years after him. This is NOT fair. If you want to critisize him, take evidence from his own book Qur'an.

God Bless,

Ishaq.

 

So you're saying that we should allow Muslim terrorists to roam free simply because they're Muslim and ignorant people like yourself assume that attacking them is attacking all Muslims?

Try again. Baseless accusations against our leaders get you no where. All you're doing is making excuses for terrorists.