The Pagerank (PR) Thread

I would have to sssooooooooooooooo agree with Khasmoth. Especially on PR tools. There are so many tools out there that have a % rate of being right and they are not full proof. They tools should only be used to guessestimate and never for 100% that, that is what your site has or is going to be.

 

The last link that I bought for my site was on Dec.19th of 06, the site that I got the link from was not cached until Dec.24th, but those links do show up as google backlinks. So I think that any links that you may have gotten after say Dec.24th will not be counted in this backlink update.

But this is a strange update, if in fact it is a real update. I have pages that have been on the site and linked from the hompage for months but did not move in terms of pr. Some of the newer pages got an increase and some did not. Yet my sitemap pages all got an increase and those pages are pretty old as well. Also the pr seems to be the same on the pages that were updated, which for the most is not possible, for example almost all my inner pages have pr4 even the ones that are 4 clicks away from the homepage.

From the looks of it, I do not think that google will be updating homepages on this update, at least not for some sites.

This one is tough, not sure what google is up to this time.

 

We know that we can not complain to google about it. This does not mean they do things fairly.

 

my directory subpages update starting yet but main page still pr0.

 

The PR update and backlink updates are independant of each other. Just because a link shows up in the backlink update doesn't mean the PR snapshot is from the same time.

 

Exactly. It's really strange. Maybe we still have to wait for few more days to conclude if this is a real update.

 

Poor site coding (Validate code via w3c)

Unable to crawl the pages (Use lynx viewer to emulate spider)

Domain age (you have to build trust and as we know that takes time)

Poor choice of link partners or methodology could have hurt you more than helped.

Start here:

http://www.google.com/webmasters/

Middle link left column

Hope this helps

 

Those of you who are looking to identify which dcs are showing updated results might do well to look at the results for cricketgame.info. Although I bought this domain some time back I only started a blog on it in early december. So it is showing both pr0 and pr3. Pr3 is being shown on updated dcs it seems.

 

I don't think this is true. If there is no backlinks how did Google found your website?

 

It is of course a real update. So many sites are showing new PR! It can not be a joke.

 

I agree with you on that note. Check this out, I created this blog http://internet-web-directory.blogspot.com/ on Dec.12th 06, had no pr and no backlinks of course. It was not cached until Jan.2nd, the links that I bought for that site was purchased on Dec.19th. That blog now has a pr4 and pr on a 2 inner pages with 19 google backlinks.

Again, very strange since I have pages in my directory that are much older than this blog but still have not gotten a pr increase.

 

lol... Got me there. .. I mean the real fluctuation of PR in these PR update must be in the near future because the results are really strange don't you think?

 

Yes, of course it's all speculation. But if you were link building in the last month with good quality backlinks and your site didn't get a PR increase then you could safely say you missed the boat and didn't get the backlinks in time. But again as you say, no one can know for sure....

 

I have a similar situation but the links are one level more (starting from PR8) and no changes are detected yet.

 

You can ping google your sitemap and it will index your site.

 

So you're saying that you believe that eventhough there is no backlink you still get PR1 above?

 

There are many who don't think it's true, khasmoth.

As stated above, I don't know for sure how Google found my website.


Possible answers discussed here.

It does happen, folks. You can get PR without backlinks. It's rare, maybe. But it DOES happen.

 

I have no idea how google allocates pr. All I was saying was that it is possible to have your site indexed without having any backlinks. You can ping google your sitemap and it will index your site.

 

Sorry but I cannot believe this theory unless you're a Google Engineer.

Source http://www.google.com/technology/

 

I'm talking about PR on my statement. Don't interpret my post line by lines. Read it as a whole. It is supposed to be talking to PR issue though not indexing websites.