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WHITE pagerank bar versus GRAY pagerank bar??? Difference versus Rumors??

Discussion in 'Google' started by ! !, Jul 30, 2004.

  1. #1
    There seems to be at least TWO MAJOR schools of thought on this

    The Challange:

    Once and for all - to uncover the official explanation and the
    Pratical explanation on the difference in a page/site having a completely

    WHITE pagerank bar and a Completely GRAY pagarank showing

    Can a Webpage have both :confused: on different datacenters :confused:


    P.S. The July Dance MAY be just starting now...
     
    ! !, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  2. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #2
    Everything can have both of anything on various datacentres, this is due to the propogation. IMO
     
    Old Welsh Guy, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  3. Such Great Heights

    Such Great Heights Peon

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    #3
    I thought;
    a grey bar ment you aren't in Google's database.
    a white bar ment your in the database but your have a PR of 0/10.

    am I wrong?
    do you think something else?
     
    Such Great Heights, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  4. disgust

    disgust Guest

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    #4
    White PR bar = in the index, but either 1) has a PR of 0 or 2) hasn't been given a PR yet

    Grey BR bar = site not in index (because not yet found)/site banned
     
    disgust, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  5. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #5
    I just added a brand new page 3 seconds ago.

    It's PR bar is all white.

    That does not seem to support your theory?

    I also checked a page I added a few weeks ago, which is in the Google index but which does not yet have PR assigned to it.

    It's PR is all white also.

    I just checked traffic-power.com, the site famously penalized by Google recently.

    They show a PR0 with an all-white bar.


    Does anyone have a sample gray bar page for us all to examine?


    P.S. I do not know the answer myself.
    P.P.S. I am color-blind. When I say it's all white, you might want to check for yourself.
     
    Will.Spencer, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  6. peterjohnston917

    peterjohnston917 Peon

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    #6
    Google's PR....the bar has been going on and off for the last 2 days....think they have a prob...one minute....we are showing 3.....then the next white...showing nil...grrrrr

    Ps not seen grey one yet ???
     
    peterjohnston917, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  7. disgust

    disgust Guest

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    #7
    www.traffic-power.com is definitely grey for me.

    I made a new site two days ago, it was grey at first, then today, it turned white. once it was white, I was able to view the cached version.
     
    disgust, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  8. peterjohnston917

    peterjohnston917 Peon

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    #8
    yep...its grey...ok....dont know why???
    .
    My site has been changing....over last 2 days... on minute....ranking...next nothing???
     
    peterjohnston917, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  9. Al-PB

    Al-PB Peon

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    #9
    what is the procedure for getting a banned site reincluded?
    considering they give no exact cause for a ban in any reply i think it would be hard to find the problem you were initially banned for?

    has anyone had a site reincluded and how long did it take?
     
    Al-PB, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  10. disgust

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    #10
    I haven't had a site reincluded because I haven't had a site banned.

    honestly, I think in most cases, if you're doing something that can get you banned, you'll know what you're doing wrong.

    ... but there are exceptions, like all the people that were had by traffic power.
     
    disgust, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  11. flawebworks

    flawebworks Tech Services

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    I notice that when I upload pages they are gray until crawled; then turns white.
    Doesn't seem to be indexed; just that google is now aware.
     
    flawebworks, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  12. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #12
    In my experience

    If your site is indexed it is white
    If your site is not indexed it is grey
    If a page is secure (https://) it is grey
    If a page has pr it has some green

    If your site is indexed and you add a page it is white straight off even though it hasn't been crawled.

    If you see any other colour other than white green or grey, ease off on the pills or take more... whatever the case may be :p
     
    Dominic, Jul 30, 2004 IP
  13. dr.sam

    dr.sam Peon

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    #13
    I have a site with white page rank. It does have back links but its not shown on google.
     
    dr.sam, Jul 31, 2004 IP
  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #14
    1. Remove whatever is in conflict with Google's Guidelines for Webmasters.
    2. Email help@google com with the subject "Reinclusion request"
     
    Will.Spencer, Jul 31, 2004 IP
  15. Mel

    Mel Peon

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    #15
    It used to be that a gray PR bar was an indication of a page the google did not have in its index.

    While a white PR bar was either a site that had a very low PR or a penalty. Pages with penalties would show no links with the link: search even when a manual search revealed that there were links that Google knew about and the page would not rank on the keywords it contained.

    Nowdays I think the grey bar still means a page that Google does not know about, but pages with white bars now can show a hundred or more backlinks with the link: search and more than a thousand links with a manual search and even rank very well for competitive terms. This seems to be more in evidence since the last shakeup three weeks ago.

    While I sincerly hope this is temporary Google anomaly, I would not discount some changes in the algo either.
     
    Mel, Aug 1, 2004 IP
  16. SEbasic

    SEbasic Peon

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    #16
    I have had this conversation in the past.

    It seems that earlier versions of the toolbar show a grey when a site hasn't been indexed, while newer versions of the toolbar, show white when the page hasn't been crawled. We have both versions of the Toolbar installed on various machines at work, so I can always see when there is a difference in the displayed results.

    Personally I use the Firefox PR plugin - this doesn't show grey :(
     
    SEbasic, Aug 4, 2004 IP
  17. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #17
    That traffic power page shows white for me.
     
    T0PS3O, Aug 4, 2004 IP