Answering Allegations about Islam - !!! Come And Join Us !!!

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  1. northpointaiki

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    #621
    Personally, I don't care what happened 1400 years ago. Muhammad, Joseph, whoever, are long dead and buried and "my god's better than yours" are ridiculous rants, to me.

    I DO CARE that you advocate pedophilia in today's world. You need to go bye bye.
     
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  2. Ibn Juferi

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    #622
    I see, when all else fails you call for me to be banned just because I came in defense of the Prophet (P) and his marriage to Aishah? That sure speaks volumes for your lack of acceptance to difference of ideas and openness to discourse :rolleyes:

    As for your long list of sexual health here, I think you have omitted one very important factor in determining puberty. Women reach puberty at different ages ranging from 8-12 years old depending on genetics, race and environment.Women in warmer climates reach puberty earlier than women in colder climates:

    "The average temperature of the country or province is considered the chief factor here, not only with regard to menstruation but as regards the whole of sexual development at puberty." (Herman H. Ploss, Max Bartels and Paul Bartels, “Woman”, Volume I (Lord & Bransby, 1988), p. 563)

    Marriage at puberty exists until today:

    "Today, in many parts of North Africa, Arabia, and India, girls are wedded and bedded between the ages of five and nine; and no self-respecting female remains unmarried beyond the age of puberty." The Cradle of Erotica (Julian Press, New York, 1962)

    Puberty has always been recognised as a symbol of adulthood throught history:

    "Puberty is defined as the age or period at which a person is first capable of sexual reproduction, in other eras of history, a rite or celebration of this landmark event was a part of the culture." Sue Curewitz Arthen, Rites of Passage: Puberty

    And it should be reminded again that we are talking about a marriage that happened some 1400 years ago, in harsh weather conditions (the desert climate of Arabia) and the practices and customs of Semitic culture.

    Any more questions?

    - MENJ
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #623
    Never said I did.

    - MENJ
     
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  5. northpointaiki

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    #625
    Yes. Pregnant pre-Teen - Yippee!

    and

    16 year olds - WAY too old

    are your posts, correct? This wasn't some other pedophile?
     
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  6. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #626
    Yeah and that was to demonstrate that if this is still biologically possible today, why are you making so much fuss about the Prophet's marriage some 1400 years ago? Bah. Even a kid can understand the point that I was trying to illustrate.

    - MENJ
     
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    #627
    Yes, I'm sure, just as a kid is fit to bear your children. No one is disputing the biological possibility - is this too difficult for you? The preponderance of today's humanity simply bristles at the rape of young females by middle aged scumbags.

    This was you, right - your position is that TODAY, to consider 16 as too damned young to bear children, is, uh, "WARPED"...Therefore, in today's world, if considering 16 as too young to bear your children is warped, 16 or below is, uh, "normal," so long as they - what did you call it - LOOK "mature enough?"

    These were your words, and not those of some other pedophile, right?

    By the way, outside of advocating modern pedophilia, aren't you supposed to be making a comment on the righteousness of the Taliban putting a bullet in the head of a defenseless female, in a public execution?

    Menj "Duck and Cover" 1980 on whether Females should be shot in the Head in a public Execution
     
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    #628
    Seems difficult for you to accept that this was the norm 1400 years ago among the Semitic people.

    And no, we are not talking about "today's humanity", we are talking about a marriage that occured 1400 years ago which you bigots today want to impose your own moral values upon, using the example of Wanwisa Janmuk's marriage. Whether I agree with Wanwisa's marriage or not is not the point I was trying to send. Easy for you to impose your so-called "modern day" values upon the Semites of Arabia, but we can see through that.

    Nope, I was in all times referring to Sayidatina Aishah's marriage and by taking the examples of today, the point was to show that women are indeed mature enough to marry at puberty, which as a matter of fact, they did 1400 years ago.

    No, I have not forgotten. All will come in due time. Things are a little hectic on my side.

    - MENJ
     
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    #629
    There is no "we." You very clearly indicated your view - that it is "warped" to consider, in today's day and age, 16 as too young. You therefore posit as normal 16 and younger. And you elsewhere indicated that the only thing holding you back from 9 year old girls was that they did not "look" mature. You also indicated that if you had a daughter 9 years old, and if today, Mohammed were to ask for her hand in marriage, you'd gladly hand her over.

    Nothing 1400's about it. You speak for your sensibility, and that is nothing more than the sensibility of a pedophile. Have the balls to own your own words.

    Enough gutless bullshit and ridiculous obfuscation.

    Answer plainly:

    Shooting a defenseless woman in the head, for whatever reason, before a crowd of cheering men.


    Is it wrong, or is it right?
     
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    #630
    Of course. Who would in their right mind reject an offer from the Messenger of God, knowing that she will be cared for and treated well? That is of course still pending her agreement.

    Its not that this was not discussed in a forum of mine months ago, but the bigots still insist to continue with their obfuscation.

    - MENJ
     
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    #631
    scary!

    .........
     
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    #632
    Uh, I would, as a father. So what happened to the 1400 year ago thing, the thing that got up your ass? Out the door now? Modern, ancient, doesn't matter - 9 year olds, GREEEEEAAAAAAAAATTT.

    Also, again (Round, what, 50?):

    Enough gutless bullshit and ridiculous obfuscation. Answer plainly:

    Shooting a defenseless woman in the head, for whatever reason, before a crowd of cheering men.

    Is it wrong, or is it right?



    To hell with it. My best hope is the mods simply erase the slime you've left on this board, as I need a shower.
     
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    #633
    I said the Prophet Muhammad, in clase you are as dumb as a mule and as blind as a bat. I did not say anyone else. Do not presume too much, youngling. You still have a lot to learn.

    - MENJ
     
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    #634
    HAHAAHAHAHAH. Yes, yes, of course - if your Prophet asks for the right to have sex with your 9 year old, innocent child, by all means, "Mohammed, knock yourself out." I'll just tuck those little pedophile-prohibitions neatly under the bed. Now, don't work yourself into a tither over those 10 year olds that DO "look mature" enough.

    Oh, and

    Enough gutless bullshit and ridiculous obfuscation. Answer plainly:

    Shooting a defenseless woman in the head, for whatever reason, before a crowd of cheering men.

    Is it wrong, or is it right?
     
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    #635
    This is exactly what I mean with the ridiculous bigotry and BS. Imposition of Western values upon a Semitic culture some 1400 years ago? I do not think that works.

    And I'm going to bed (its 1:25 AM here), can't be bothered with misinformed maniacs like you who are always trying to find a provocation against Islam. As I said before, all will come in due time. Are you so obtuse not to understand this?

    - MENJ
     
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    Yes, yes, of course. Typing "right" or "wrong" to the question:

    Shooting a defenseless woman in the head, for whatever reason, before a crowd of cheering men.

    Is it wrong, or is it right?



    takes as much time as the several weeks worth of posts you have done in hiding from the answer.

    I'd say sweet dreams, but I shudder to think what your twisted brain renders alone in the dark.
     
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    #637
    Remember this is the "do as I say not as I do" prophet.

    All other prophets were imperfect but when it came to the prophesies, that part was right or they would not be considered prophets. Jesus was more than a prophet and he was one that said " do as I do, say as I say" and if you copy Jesus you can't do something wrong like pedophilia.
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #638
    Actually, it is.
     
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    :eek:
    I was laughing about that one. I wondered what he thought the point was then.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #640
    It's very difficult to have tolerance or respect for someone that condones raping small children.

    Kinda gives me a much better understanding of why things are so messed up in that part of the world now.

    You're blaming the weather for the rape of a child?


    Sure, do you rape little girls?
     
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