German Interior Minister: Islam is part of our future

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  1. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #81
    No I am not. However it seems you ascribe to a different standard for freedom of speech, one without consequences or for care to the feelings of others. And I would hardly call that freedom of speech.

    As was stated before, it depends on mitigating circumstances and one just cannot impose a death sentence just because one feels like it. Apparently you seem to think so, and that is a stereotypical assumption.

    - MENJ
     
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    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #82
    And it seems that the other thread was closed (although I would prefer that the sabotager be banned instead rather than closing the whole thread), but it was too bad I could not get the last word in. Whoever she is, she sure does have serious PMS issues.

    I will address this:

    you only use the forums because you know DP has a google bot living here and the posts are on google within minutes, so your links to your crazy gang sites, get placed on google within 10 minutes, thats a smart way to use a forum i must say.

    My sites already have a PR ranging from 3 to 4, and they are already listed in Google. I guess someone who maintains a sexual health site should just stick to that, and let the SEO pros handle it ourselves.

    - MENJ
     
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    #83
    Yes. I do understand that death is not the only penalty. My point simply is - it is an option. You've admitted that twice now. And that's what I said, as you quoted. It's not stereotypical. It's your admission.

    That is what free speech is all about. It is easy to say "free speech for things I agree with" - but when you can agree with someone's right to say something, even when it offends or hurts your feelings do you truly believe in free speech.

    So, just say it. "Yes, I am opposed to the freedom of speech" - because, you are. If you do not like that, I'm sorry. But its your beliefs, not mine.
     
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    #84
    Previously:

    Now, you are being hypocritical. Are you not?
     
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  5. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #85
    Well anyone can say whatever they want, and I fully believe in that -- but certainly not libel or sedition.

    - MENJ

    I criticise the person's behaviour, and she is not the object of reverence or a holy figure of a religion. Were the person involved was Mary, the mother of Jesus (P), only then would it be libelious or seditious. But the person is just an ignoramous biatch.

    - MENJ
     
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    #86
    That's fine. But, again, opinions are not libel.

    So, non-libelously, let's summarize what you've admitted today:
    1-supporting a head tax on non-muslims
    2-supported killing people who do not believe in god
    3-supporting an islamic state, dhimmi status for non-muslims
    4-jailing (or killing) those who insult islam or mohammad

    anything else you care to admit to today? Or that enough for everyone to soak in?
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #87
    Did you report this post for being rude?

    The smell of hypocrisy is exceptionally nauseating tonight.
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #88
    Was quite an eye opener for me. In the end, the truth is always exposed.

    I wonder who they will send over next?
     
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    #89
    Well, I've gotten 2 to admit it now. Guess, I need to make a short form so I don't waste 2 hours of my life next time ;)
     
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    #90
    Of course I don't support killing people who do not believe in god! That is silly.

    - MENJ
     
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    #91
    The truth remains as per "Recent Blog" title above.

    - MENJ
     
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    #92
    While it is amusing that you apparently say that others are acceptable. 10 minutes ago, you just said you did support it. Check your own posts, previous page or two. :rolleyes:
     
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    #93
    Well I checked the Tafsir Ibn Kathir. The following is the interpretation of Quran 4:89 :

    Therefore:

    1. The verse does not speak about non-Muslims, it refers to the hypocrites in Islam
    2. It was for the Muslims who were disputing over their status
    3. Muslims are instructed to cast them aside and not follow their falsehood.
    4. Nothing is mentioned about killing people who do not believe in god.

    That is all.

    - MENJ
     
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    #94
    oi prick you can mention my name, and as it was pointed out to you by the mod, you cant cause shit and expect not to be insulted by people for doing it.
    the mod also told you that crying wolf is an assholes way of attention seeking

    deal with it
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #95
    See number 2 here. Actually, there are examples of most of these in his posts. Good implementation on most of then, except number 2. He needs more practice on the victim card :)
     
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    #96
    No one asked for your opinion. Also, I am fasting, so I would not stoop to your level of coarse language.

    - MENJ
     
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    #97
    I see, still running away from the Clinton thread? Still refusing to see the recorded video evidence of Dubya being...hmm, how should I put it, "double tracking"? Perhaps that is why you are so fond of resorting to linking to your collection of childish websites, instead of actually forming an opinion of your own? Or perhaps a diversion?

    - MENJ
     
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    #98
    This would probably fall best under number 4, diversion.

    Nice job!
     
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    #99
    calling me bitch ha ha ha you ugly git, oh and to improve your understanding of the word ugly, it can mean looks or personality. you figure what one i ment, or maybe i ment both. :rolleyes:
     
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    #100
    We are not having a discussion, and I am going to ignore you from this point on, lest I say something that I should regret and sin before my Lord. That is, unless you decide to come back to civilisation.

    - MENJ
     
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