Islam calls us Jews and Christians, Pigs and Monkeys

A few more to deny:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55321,00.html
http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011971.php
http://contenderministries.org/islam/interview.php
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5426633
http://www.likud.nl/extr169.html
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/003674.php
http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg110102.asp
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR00902 (this one is so worthy, it deserves re-denial )
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23399 (complete with scripture reference)

Let me know if you need some more to deny. Or, if reality has set in and you are no longer ashamed, you can move on to the next item to deny.

 

He can keep denial, and I can keep shits his denial

 

It reminds me of the unanswered question I asked here:

I simply do not understand why muslims are ashamed of their teachings. Stand up, be proud of the hatred and stop denying it. Surely your "allah" wouldn't want you to be ashamed? Surely "mohammed" would not want you to be ashamed? If you are ashamed, leave islam.

 

MOhammed was a pig for molesting a child.

 

You are confused so I suppose I have to explain this out. Check my first post in this thread. I specifically mention the very web page that you later link. That's post number 6 and again I quote from my own post:

In post number 15, YOU give the very same link that I had referred to in post #6 as though it is an answer to my request that the OP, "give me one directly from a group of Muslim scholars"

Memri is NOT a Muslim-run/Islamic site, I pointed this out when I mentioned it in post #6 and you can check its Wiki entry, it is run by an ex-military Israeli. Here is a quote from Wiki.

Pretty much none of the reference links given at the bottom of the memri Special Report No. 11 work. You point out a link to memri's translation of a children's animation (as though it's a valid Islamic source) and one which does not in the slightest way imply that Christian and Jews living today are descended from apes or pigs as I have explained already.

In your response to my description of the animation shown on memri, you come up with incredible arguments such as "I really don't care what your excuse is" or "Maybe you could read it again." If you had any ability to reason then explain where in the transcript of the animation does it imply that Jews and Christians today are or descended from apes and pigs (as I challenged you in my previous post).

 

This is very good point but they are "just" too blind/brainwased to see it.
That's the biggest problem ..

It's like explain a fool that he is a fool :/

 

qiyat,

I took issue with this argument:

Is it fair to say that I have overwhelmingly provided more than one source directly from a group of Muslim scholars or the Qur'an/hadith that states that all (all being subjective and not required to show it happens) Jews and Christians are pigs or apes or descended from such?

Memri is but one of at least half a dozen + links I provided, all showing that Jews are referred to as sons of pigs and apes in islam. Your tactical denial is not working. You cannot reason this away when the evidence is so overwhelming.

 

yea digitalpoint is a piece of shit hope u death man bastard

 

Nice to meet you too!

 

So far, from the guide to kitman, we see:

Anyone want to bet whether number 2 or 8 is next?

 

Would you like to pull my finger first? I promise, it won't hurt

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55321,00.html
Gets its information for that article from MEMRI. No cigar for you.

http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011971.php
Just mentions textbooks that refer to Jews as "apes" and Christians as "swine". No references, no examples. Perhaps the textbooks refer to a similiar story as in the animation or perhaps they are mistranslated by the good folk at MEMRI, since we don't have access to the source we cannot tell.

http://contenderministries.org/islam/interview.php
What a surprise, your favourite 3-yr old Muslim scholar as seen on MEMRI


http://www.likud.nl/extr169.html
States at the very top that it gets all its information from MEMRI. Again, no cigar!

http://www.nationalreview.com/goldberg/goldberg110102.asp
Quotes... you guessed it...

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sr&ID=SR00902
MEMRI again?

http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23399
Links to MEMRI in the part about apes and pigs. Scripture reference specifically points out that a tribe in the past were transformed in apes and pigs as a punishment.

So, it would seem you should just stick with MEMRI!

Let me know if you need anything else to bash. I don't deny or have shame in anything which gives valid references to the Qur'an and with a scholarly explanation. There is no denial about tribes (Jewish or not) turned into apes and pigs (metaphorically or literally). There is nothing scripturally or scholarly valid about your viewpoint (or MEMRI's) regarding this.

 

So tactical denial is still the only thing you have. Got it

 

Doesn't mention memri at all. Though memri is a perfectly valid source anyway. Were you practicing al-taqiyya here? There is no mention of memri.

This one was kind of funny Cair, the terrorist front group who has had leaders in it's organization convicted of terrorism related charges, forgot to dumb down the english quran it had printed up for infidels.

Can you say "ooops"

 

Nope, pretty much all the links you gave use MEMRI as their source which in turn doesn't seem to provide any valid/working links with regard to this issue. The animation does not, as I have explained, represent Jews as apes or pigs (you still can't point out where in the transcript it specifically is meant to do that). Furthermore, you still have trouble reading and understanding basic English. I asked for anyone to point out a group of Muslim scholars (backed up with Qur'an/Hadith reference), you essentially present MEMRI which is run by an ex-Israeli soldier. Is it fair to say he might be somewhat anti-Islamic and thus not a prime source of Islamic thought?

Evidently quantity matters to you over quality. You are a prime example of how media manipulation works on the weak-minded, you say something enough times and people such as yourself believe it.

 

It's not me saying it, it's hundreds/thousands of references out there, of which at least one above didn't reference memritv (which is an acceptable source). The first time, you lied about it, the second time, you just skipped over it.

And then of course, even Cair get's it wrong with a little "oopsie" in their reprings of the quran and mentions Jews as "apes" and "pigs."

And all you have is tactical denial. Thanks for demonstrating the art of kitman. No offense bud, but you need more practice on implementation. That kind of sucked

 

Quoted from that article.

Can you?

Another article to bash? Quoted directly from it: "The Washington-based Middle East Media Research Institute, or MEMRI, includes in its archives many translated writings and texts." MEMRI again. So many MEMRI references cropping up! Surely your theory that quantity is everything is failing miserably.

Again, I don't see the problem with stories of tribes (Jewish or not) long before Muhammad, that were destroyed as a result of their disobedience to God. Whether they were turned into pigs or consumed in water in Noah's time, or destroyed in Lot's time just as in the Bible are simply the different manifestations of God's Wrath.

 

As pointed out it DID use MEMRI as a reference. The first time you just skipped over it.

The Qur'an doesn't mention Jews as "apes" and "pigs" you can check through it at www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran/. Comments may indicate that the tribes that were "destroyed" in this unusual way were of Jewish descent, but even a simpleton should understand that this does not mean Jews today are descended from them if they were killed.

 

LMAO! So in this story, Cair (a terrorist front group) screws up and forgets to edit out of the quran about Jews being pigs and jews and later on, also happens to mention memri (again, a perfectly valid source!), and you dismiss it? Too funny! Thank you, once again, for demonstrating the art of kitman. Work on the implementation

Well sk, I see a problem with islam referring to Jews as sons of pigs and apes. I also see a problem with your denial, but, it's not surprising.

So one ex-Israeli soldier runs the organization? Source?

http://www.memritv.org/aboutus.asp

That's a lot of work for one ape, oops, I mean Jew, huh?

Did you have anymore denial sk?

 

www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,55321,00.html

You claimed this has no reference to MEMRI yet I pointed out the quote from it which does reference MEMRI. I guess you want to ignore it and move on, as you've done with the animation which you have still failed to point out the bit that is infering that all Jews and Christians apes and pigs.

There is no referring to Jews as sons of pigs and apes, unless you believe they came back to life and procreated normal looking people, but that would be your personal belief. I see a problem with your lies, but that isn't surprising to me, maybe since you've heard it enough times the media manipulation (that weak-minded people like yourself are vulnerable to) has got you believing Jews are apes.

I already gave you the source from Wikipedia, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Media_Research_Institute (I can't live link).

Didn't I just mention, "maybe since you've heard it enough times the media manipulation (that weak-minded people like yourself are vulnerable to) has got you believing Jews are apes."