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9/11 Evidence thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by latehorn, Sep 10, 2006.

  1. ajenterp

    ajenterp Peon

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    #41
    We all know how the towers came down perfectly. Like a planned implosion of a las vegas casino. Why isn't there more speculation of the third building that went down over 400 yards away? Yes? The goverment building with the mayors bunker that also went down just like the two towers? Official cause was "Falling debris from the towers caused an internal fire".

    So let's get this straight.......

    Towers 400 yards away.
    Debris comes blasting out the side.
    Flys over 400 yards (1200 feet)
    Goes through the govt. building into the basement and cuases a fire which brings the building down in a matter of 7 seconds.

    Hmmmmmmmm
     
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    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #42
    Hmmmm indeed. Have you actually read the official account of WTC7's collape or did you just see a video?
     
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  3. NoobieDoobieDo

    NoobieDoobieDo Peon

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    #43
    Yes I believe the government is telling me the truth too.

    :\
     
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  4. ajenterp

    ajenterp Peon

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    #44
    They had the offical account on CNN one time. If I find a link to it somewhere I'll try to post it here. I am sure it is listed on the government site somwhere.
     
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    #45
    How about any account, besides the conspiracy theory?

    Here. Give reading a try:
     
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  6. NoobieDoobieDo

    NoobieDoobieDo Peon

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    #46
    Every account is a conspiracy theory.
     
    NoobieDoobieDo, Sep 12, 2006 IP
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    #47
    That's a convenient way to ignore reality :rolleyes:
     
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  8. NoobieDoobieDo

    NoobieDoobieDo Peon

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    #48
    Um, the story is 18 or so terrorist planned in secret to do all this right ?

    That's a conspiracy* theory.

    *a secret agreement between two or more people to perform an unlawful act
     
    NoobieDoobieDo, Sep 12, 2006 IP
  9. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #49
    I guess, in technical terms.

    But you are playing with words. You KNOW that in this context, conspiracy theory means something else.

     
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  10. NoobieDoobieDo

    NoobieDoobieDo Peon

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    #50
    In technical terms ?

    You mean in terms of what the words mean?

    But anyhow , what really happened on 9/11 doesn't matter much - what matters is what the TV tells people happened on 9/11.
     
    NoobieDoobieDo, Sep 12, 2006 IP
  11. lorien1973

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    #51
    No. In terms of conspiracy theorists avoiding the facts. Which don't even seem to be in debate anymore. Just who can spout em all out. Mindless repetition of stupidity.

    To some, perhaps.
     
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  12. NoobieDoobieDo

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    #52
    I say that because when I talk to people about 9/11 they are always telling me what TV told them - things that can easily be disputed via quick google search.

    They think because it was on the History Channel or Discovery or A&E or whatever then golly jee - it just must be true.

    ps. Ive never seen a good 9/11 debate , it - like everything else on most forums - just turns into a flame war.
     
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  13. lorien1973

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    #53
    So you believe what a google search tells you, instead? That's interesting.

    When backed up by actual experts in their field, rather than grainy still images or quotes taken way out of context. Weighing the two isn't very difficult. For some people, at least.
     
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    #54
    Show me the plane. Show me a piece of the plane. One single piece that can be positively identified as having come from the plane that hit the pentagon. Until someone can do just that, I won't believe it was a plane that struck it. You can show all the "simulations" you want. You can show all the grainy stop action video you want. All I'm asking for is some concrete evidence that it was a plane.
     
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    #56
    Not really. We have video of them planning it. And confessions from the group.

    Take that VR machine off your head.
     
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  18. Roman

    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    #58
    All I hear is questions being posed by the conspiracy theorists and most are answered but the fact is something like this has never happened before so how can anyone know what 'should have happened'?

    What I don't see is the conspiracy theorists answering any questions, why is that?

    Lets assume this was planned by the government:

    Q: Did Bush orgagnize all this himself?
    A: No, impossible not enough time.

    Q: Who helped him?
    A: CIA, maybe FBI, the Army, other politicians.

    Q: Did the people helping Bush then set up the whole thing?
    A: Unlikely, they probably had subordinates do the grunt work.

    Q: How many people did it take to pull this off?
    A: I have no answer, but if I was one of them, just following orders as I would do before the events happened, I sure would have said something after I realized what I have done.

    Q: So why hasn't anyone come forward?
    A: I have no answer.

    Q: Where did the missle(s) come from?
    A: Army base, ship ????

    Q: How many people would it take to fire a missle without anyone knowing about it or missing it?
    Q: Are not all missles suposed to be accounted for?
    A: I do not know.

    Q: If the plane(s) did not hit the building(s) where are they and the people?
    A: They were shot down.

    Q: Unlikely, that would have been spotted and being shot down at 30,000 feet would scatter the debris so where are they?
    A: They were forced to land.

    Q: Where? not at a public airport so it has to be a remote private airport capable of landing the plane(s). Right?
    A: Makes sense.

    Q: This airport would have to be staffed, how many people does it take to land the plane(s) make sure none of the passengers escape and what about making the planes dissapear from the tracking systems?
    A: lots.

    Q: If I was one of them, just following orders as I would do before the events happened, I sure would have said something after I realized what I have done so why hasn't anyone come forward?
    A: I don't know.

    Q: Personally I'd notice a large plane flying where it shouldn't be and I'm sure lots of people would as well so why has no one reported seeing these flights?
    A: I don't know.


    Help me out here, I want to believe.
     
    Roman, Sep 12, 2006 IP
  19. lorien1973

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    #59
    You're part of the conspiracy, aren't you, Roman? Admit it.

    I always find it interesting that:

    Conspiracy dude: show me evidence
    non-conspiracy dude: here it is
    conspiracy dude: (moves onto the next thread) *crickets*
     
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  20. Roman

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    #60
    I AM THE CONSPIRACY! :)
     
    Roman, Sep 12, 2006 IP