Chaos says hes an atheist-zionist. I wonder if hes gonna follow the original creed as the founder of zionism says you should do and teach his kids about god. I think he will cause hes not a religious jew but an extremist religious jew. Gosh Im getting mixed up just thinking about what he believes or doesnt believe in. Imagine what hes going through right now. Whatever his beliefs are it doesnt look like hes gonna fool the other atheists here or us believers any longer(or the world community for that fact), but I really think that he is getting his education right now after incomesinternational is just schooling him silly lol. If chaos owns a phd then im albert einstein lol
As another member of the gallery, Incomesinternational comes across as a conspiracy theorist nut job, and Chaos Trivia owns him in post after post. I can think of at least two posts where Incs.Int. has used conjecture and rumor as his evidence. To the conspiracy theorists, a conspiracy with several important missing pieces of supporting evidence is proof, in and of itself, that the conspiracy is real and the evidence is hidden or destroyed. They have a hard time understanding why people don't prejudge as they have. Most rational people have figured out you can see almost anything you want to see in your corn flakes, a pile of dog poo, a loosely disorganized stack of papers, or in several unrelated facts. Interestingly, many of those same people argue against the death penalty because they don't want to kill innocent people wrongfully convicted on insufficient or in proper evidence. I think it is just their own subconscious whispering in their ear. It tells them, "You are a full blown nut job, you know that". They try their best to drown out the voices.
if I want to thank somebody, I would thank in my name, and indeed, thank you incomesinternational.com for 3 things, (1) for the quality of your posts, and not going down to Chaos level, and (2) for the truthfulness of the info you mentioned, I think you are aware, that Chaos and browntwn are two examples of the Zionist argument (one is posing as an American, and the other is posing as an Atheist) that is based on "kill the messenger to get rid of the message" it's why you find Chaos using intensive ridiculing, and this is why you see browntwn using intensive "anti-Semite" accusations, but you rarely find them posting something of a value, and if they posted something, it is mostly a propaganda that been refuted many times before but they still keep repeating it, hoping readers will "trust them" and not check, this propaganda still works with some fools who depend on Zionists to tell them facts, it worked before when they told them "a land without a people for a people without a land" and nobody did question how such an area in the heart of the world would be "without a people" and just waiting the Zionists to "pick it up", fortunately, those fools are getting fewer and fewer, people now will want to question almost everything that is being said, especially when it comes from a Zionist source, and this is because some like (3) you & Toopac have enough courage to speak the truth, and make people aware of it, even when knowing what will be waiting them from people like Chaos or browntwn and the bunch of fools.
Right on! You've caught me out. USS Liberty was never attacked and the Israeli's never did admit it. There were never any witnesses nor injured personnel. Israel is not a nuclear power and it has always had the approval of the AEC to produce nuclear facilities and weapons. Israel has never had a single Jewish resident speak out against the Zionists. Israel has never committed a war crime. Hitler never hated Jews and didn't say anything to anyone of the idea. The Canaanites never existed - it's just a rumor. No Mosaad member has ever been caught in possession of top secret file. No Mosaad member has ever been caught spying on the US government or any other government. All Jews support Zionism. No rabbi ever opposed the establishment of the Zionist movement. No Jew ever opposed the forced expulsion of Arabs from Palestine. No Israeli has ever occupied land that it had no legal right to. What on earth was I thinking? It's all just conjecture and conspiracy theories. Thanks for helping me to see the truth. No I must get back to my hole in the ground and stick my head in there again - oh look I see obamanation and chaos theory here with their heads in the sand too.
Thanks Imad, I think that despite the differences in some of our beliefs, we still can recognize an injustice here. I cant believe that Chaostrivia is still posting his wikipedia bs . It was choas's initial post trying to explain why the israeli government is still building settlements (against the UN) that really shocked me. Does he really believe that we are that stupid to believe that garbage. We all know that he believes in god since you cannot be a zionist and an atheist at the same time since one of their core foundation aspects is to teach your children about their religion. The world will not be fooled any longer. The fact that toopac and incomesinternational are getting him on every point shows that he will stubbornly stick to his delusional notions.
Did you try Google before you asked the question? I probably should have also mentioned that Israel also needed UN approval which was never granted. You do know who the UN is right? Oh my apologies it seems the years are catching up with me and what was once know as the AEC is now know as the IAEA. You can find out more here. http://www.iaea.org/ Although I wouldn't read too much into it. It's probably just another one of those conspiracies or more likely another nazi group who are irrelevant. Isn't that right chaos!
Do you really think brown would know about the UN if he supports whats going on over there? Some people actually read about the UN mandates like chaos and dont care, and some others like brown don't even know these mandates even exist.
Lol. You have the support of all the terrorist sympathizers. Bravo. Maybe you can run for Osama's job when hes dead. Regarding the rest of your nonsense, one can make a post equally long with facts about Islam/Muslims/Palestine. Its like vomit on a page. Random facts and half truths that lead to nothing. As a matter of fact, I can make a similar list in application to almost any government on the planet. Maybe we should do away with governments because they are all evil. To you, they all add up to Zionist = Evil Racist that needs to be removed from the planet. What was the saying from that movie.... The people who applaud you support your brand of reasoning, and they are welcome to it. Every time you try and string a series of your facts, half truths, and sometimes outright lies, into some conspiracy theory, you get beaten down by Chaos.
Actually if you use those big round things in the front of your head you'll see that the only person here throwing the terms of racism or nazi around is chaos. You see for someone to be racist, they need to be degrading of a particular race. The Jewish people are not a race. They are a religious group. Now if you could make an equally strong argument, then why havn't you? Instead you rant and rave about pretty much nothing other than to try and claim that I am using half truths and nonsense, yet you provide no actual counter argument. So your words are hollow and carry no weight. You are simply a monkey in the gallery. As far as Osama goes - well that friend I mentioned on the last page who read all 3 doctrines and chose Islam, well his name is Osama so I would therefore be more than willing to step into his shoes. If you are referring to Bin Laden, well that's just funny isn't it. I mean when even the CIA is pissed off that they were not permitted to take him into custody, one needs to ask what exactly did Bin Laden do? Since you mentioned in your last dribble that with no evidence that it's all just conjecture and conspiracy theories, I could apply the same logic here since there is no concrete evidence that Bin Laden actually did anything. Even the Hague won't accept confessions from inmates who have been tortured so any confessions that came out of gitmo are tainted and is exactly the reason why the Bush administration fought so hard to ensure that any of these people would only be heard in a military court because no self respecting court would allow such a travesty. Even the US citizens have spoken out in this regard and with the same sentiment. The people who "applaud" me do so of their own free will. If what I say resonates with those people then so be it. But once again you make accusations of random facts and half truths, yet you cannot specify and more importantly disprove any of them. Where is the conspiracy theory? Please point it out to me. I'm still waiting to be beaten down by chaostheory. Like you, he says a lot of nothing, and says he provides sources to back up his claims, though I don't see them in any of his replies other than that wonderful and totally accurate wikipedia. Even then he only provided a single reference to the battle of Verdun which I've already covered in my last post. So far all I've seen is you two unable to answer the simplest of questions which is - why should liberals need to be convinced that shooting unarmed children from armored tanks is justified. All that chaos has managed to say is that he thinks rabbi's who oppose Zionism are nazi's. If that's your definition of him giving me a beating then keep it coming.
Oh I forgot one thing and that is I agree with you about governments, particularly Democracy. As the founding fathers of the United States put it: Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb deciding what to eat for dinner. That about sums it up. But I guess in your holier than thou opinion that people like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and others were wrong too, after all they were not Zionists and believed in liberty and justice for all human beings, not just for the members of one particular religion. And on that note I'll bid you all good day. It's pointless coming back to this thread because none of those who have tried to shut me down can either prove me wrong at any junction, nor can answer the question at hand which is why these defensless kids should be killed. They can't, they won't and they are simply trying to draw you into an argument so that they can later come back to insult you because they have no actual information of any relevance or substance to provide. As you have seen since I started posting in this thread they have been on the defensive the entire time and blindly claim some kind of moral victory over me, all the while still unable to answer the question. Whatever chaotheory has to say, just remind him and keep quoting his statement that rabbi's are unqualified to speak about the jewish issue and that they are nazi's. I wish you all well. Even the poor ignorant souls who troll this thread in the hopes of earning some credibility or respect. I have to get back to my conspiracies now.
Incomesinternational, it took alot of guts to speak the truth dude. Unbiased people will visit and see how he twists things and that is what is important. The truth Ziya, chaos will never admit that they did all of this, because if your colonizing and building settlements and they blink long enough they will open their eyes , and the truth is a very tough thing to swallow if you have been deceiving yourself for so many years.
Nothing to be too proud of... clearly that wasn't fair play........... but still a lot lot lot of fun Wha!! Could it be that I have never heard of the person that can be called "the most influential person of the 20th century"? "the single man who changed the course of world history?" I just can't wait to know who the genius was. Who was this guy? *biting my fingernails out of anticipation* Please bother and show us couple of cases who are now "public records". We look forward.
You noticed too? There's more. No surprise here, no answer from ChaosTrivia for what the 20? 40 time? - Never will get an "in context" justification for Israel shooting unarmed kids from tanks will I? I would say thanks to all the people that contributed to the thread, with actual content IE pingpong123, incomesinternational.com, imad, new, ziya, gauharjk, Rebecca, pizzaman, Dodara, Traditione and ThraXed and of course (sooper sexy me) For those loud mouths that scream "terrorists supporters", good night and fair well from my cave - Osama Bin Laden
Do you know what the word non-binding means? Resolutions by the UN general assembly are meaningless - that have no effect and nobody is under any obligation to follow them, not Israel or any other country. Is seems it is you who is playing dumb. Okay, now that you realize the AEC and the IAEA are two different things we can move on. Why do you think Israel needed the permission of the IAEA or the UN? Did any of the other countries that have nuclear weapons obtain this permission you say Israel was supposed to get?
I just want to thank you for providing me some additional examples... half truths, conjecture, conspiracy theories. No more of a race than the Arabs? Jews are both a race and a religious group. The two overlap, with some Jews(race) not being part of the religious group, and some non-jews(race) practicing Judaism. When someone argues the ocean is filled with coca-cola, the moon is made of green cheese, or that we shot a cruise missle into the pentagon, no counter argument is necessary. The burden of truth lies on you. Its why I point out your half truths and conspiracy theories. On this we can agree . Post 9-11 evidence? Are we to take your word for this? Which, in and of itself, is a conspiracy theory. The idea that we either made up Bin Laden, or his organization, or his actions, requires a conspiracy at the largest level. All the people working in US intelligence gathering would have to be in on it. The people who put out those Al Queda video tapes would have to be in on it. Same with the people who continue to bomb western interests around the world. The current sitting president would have to be in on it, as he mentioned in his speech on Tuesday that we have caught Al Queda operatives in the US within the last 2 months. Have I personally looked at and examined all the evidence that the many organizations within my government has looked at to bring them to the conclusions they have presented in a bi-partisan way? No. But to buy into your conspiracy theory requires me to call all these independent and educated people conspirators, and to call people like you credible. I hope you can see the obvious choice. Right. So to you, that means those people are innocent. This is what I'm talking about when I say you draw idiotic conclusions from strings of facts and somewhat related half truths. For those prisoners in Gitmo who were captured on the battlefield, the only reason they are still alive is for intelligence gathering purposes. They could just as well have been shot where they were and no international law would have been violated. From a legal standpoint, they are POWs and should be held as such until the war is over. People like you want to go around the established protocol and have a show trial, and call them the innocents who were tortured by the big bad USA. You are the poster child of why having any trial, military, or otherwise, for these people is a bad idea. It makes just about as much sense to put them in a plane, fly them back over Afghanistan and let them out at 29,000 feet. After all, our need for their information is the only reason they weren't shot or bombed on the battlefield. Forbearance of the US military is the only reason they are still alive today. They are like the living dead, zombies, dead men walking, less than human. you can always tell a lot about a man by who his friends are. you got your wish. you left out the word "Again". Don't worry, I'm sure its coming. Yes, that is the safe fallback for you, Toothpic, and the rest. Everyone look at this dead child and forget all the rest of the shit we did to get to this point. FOCUS ON THE DEAD CHILD!! PLEASE!!! What you don't get is that in post after post, nobody is saying that shooting unarmed children is just or right. What they are saying is that as long as Palestine refuses to recognize Israel's right to exist, the conflict will drag on and there will be casualties, including children, on both sides. Source please?
None of them did, and many today still do not. That's REALITY... Ah, if it is, then why are you so hateful and in support of evil? Wow, you've got a lot to learn. It's called sarcasm. I'm merely poking fun at your own ignorance so you can see just how silly and bigoted your opinion is with regard to Jews. Why is it I have to continually explain everything to you? Again, I suggest you find a "forum for newbies" and annoy people over there.
None? are you really that ignorant. What's evil about my posts? be clear and concise, provide sources etc. Is it evil to say: Israel should not shoot unarmed kids from tanks? That they should stop stealing land from illegally occupied territories? That they should stop locking Palestinians into what are effectively concentration camps? The Palestinians don't deserve to die by being starved to death, denied basic supplies, medicine because of Israeli blockades? That Israel should not have committed war crimes against these people? When your actually arguing against this it is in fact you that is evil, IE your opposite day, goods bad, bads good right? It may very well be, but your comments "dirty joos" is normally a bigoted response and when you said "bash their own kind" you unconsciously exposed yourself as seeing them as a sub-species. Kind of like a drunk who speaks the truth I don't have bigoted views towards Jews and worse still you have no evidence nor source - care to link me up? In fact there are many good Jews. It is in fact your projecting your shortcomings on to me, you have bigoted views: When you post stuff about: Jews - "dirty joos", "their own kind" Muslims - Just check P&R. KKK and neo-Nazis - Down play the KKK and Neo-Nazis (like the KKK ain't) Because you come across as bigoted and it doesn't sit well with normal folks. I'm annoying you, how so? by pointing out your bigoted views? Cry me a river.