Israel Project a charity (Yea right)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Toopac, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. ThraXed

    ThraXed Peon

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    #141
    Chaos Trivia manages to make a post longer than the bible....contains no substance and was just all nonsense.....has that ever happened before?!?! LOL ;)
     
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  2. incomesinternational.com

    incomesinternational.com Peon

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    #142
    I must admit that my posts are also as long as the bible - but I personally believe I bring substance to the discussion. But then that is only my opinion and belief and may not be the same as everyone else's.

    Oh no, did I just bait the hook - again! :D
     
  3. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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    #143
    Indeed, your posts are excellent and add a lot of value to this discussion... :)

    Thank you for your time...
     
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  4. pingpong123

    pingpong123 Well-Known Member

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    #144
    Incomesinternational, dont forget about the stern gang that assasinated any british diplomate that was thinking of leaning towards the other side against them. I see Chaos is quoting from wikipedia again. Seems like both are a fountain of accurate information:rolleyes:
     
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  5. rhoula

    rhoula Well-Known Member

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    #145
    I should Admit that I learn more from this forum about Palestine and Israel than from any other website.

    But what bothers me the most is people that will support a terrorist state while the whole universe is condemning it.

    I would love to learn how Israel does it, but I guess they don't need to do anything at all most of the people that Support them are drugged to the bone and wouldn't change their point of view even if their own mother is slaughtered by Israel.

    I feel bad for the people that try to convince them they are wrong, because at the end of the day. An Israeli Supporter will always be an Israeli supporter.

    The only problem is these supporter are losing more and more ground everyday.

    My friends Wake up and smell your Coffee the world is not as ignorant as it was few years ago. More and more people are learning the real TRUTH.

    And as I said before, Stop wasting your breath you don't have no more control over it.

    May God have mercy on our Souls.
     
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  6. incomesinternational.com

    incomesinternational.com Peon

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    #146
    The biggest difficulty though is actually defining what a terrorist state is. For instance if we looked at the past 150 years of US clandestine operations in foreign lands then one could, under the current popular idea of what a terriorist state is, also be considered a terrorist state.

    Drug running, election fixing, assisnation, and the list goes on and on.

    Israel does it through global influence via the disparate members scattered throughout the worlds political systems coupled with a very well defined and articulated propaganda machine. Much the same as the US has done for many years and very much like the Nazi's did it during the 1930's. Through scare mongoring and hate messages.

    It may come as a shock to you that I do support the idea of a Jewish state, but only in the sense that it be done fairly, and morally, without adversely affecting the indigenous population.

    In the early years of the Nazi reign, they too had massive global support. Prominent men such as Henry Ford were outspoken advocates of that pathetic movement. But like all movements, and all sources of propaganda, the truth eventually comes out, the support dies off, and the movement comes to a grinding halt.

    Thank your lucky stars, or god or allah, for modern technology.

    Never forget Ghandi was just one man. Moses was just one man. Mohammad was just one man. You do have the power to change things. You are only limited to your beliefs.

    And so may explain why I don't believe in any religion. It's limiting the possibilities of your ability to reach your full potential and to accept new ideas.

    Do I believe? NO - but I have a pretty good idea.

    Amen to that!
     
  7. incomesinternational.com

    incomesinternational.com Peon

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    #147
    LOL yes lets leave that one alone because he might end up having a brain fart and bleeding crap all over his ears.

    I'm still waiting for him to prove me wrong on so many of the points that he called me delusional on such as DC and Vatican not being independent states or that the Balfour declaration was made public before the end of the war, or perhaps even a simple one like why we should ignore the Canaanites if the only claim the Zionists have over Palestine is a historical claim.

    His views really fascinate me.

    By the way, love the avatar - pity he didn't make it to the ivory tower. How different the world would have been today.
     
  8. rhoula

    rhoula Well-Known Member

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    #148
    Thank you incomesinternational.com for the great reply. As I said before I m learning more from this place than any other place on the net.

    I m taking your advices very seriously, and do agree with most of what you said, even when you said that religion limits the ability to reach a full potential to accept ideas.

    I try as mush as possible to listen to people and discus subject with them, without being influenced by my religious background. I admit that it's very hard sometimes, but I do my best to accept things that sound, or seem true even if they are different from what I was taught.

    I have a lot of respect for some world leaders, and have enjoyed reading about their fight to make the world a better place.

    I believe that the only way to help humanity is to condemn what Israel does if we want he arab and Islamic world to fully condemn terrorist acts and take responsibility for their act.

    Remember, a terrorist to one is nothing else but a freedom fighter to an other. Israel has been great at manipulating the news. Many Jewish knew to invest in the news business to control the world opinion. Unfortunately the internet as you said has opened hundred of million of people's eyes. At the same time many countries are mastering the business of spreading the news. News channels as Al Jazerah and many others are helping balancing the way the news are fed to us.

    So much to say, never enough time to say it all. But at least most of us should be happy that we have people that are fair when it comes to spreading the TRUTH.

    Thank you

    P.S It may not sound true to you but the majority of Muslims are not against a jewish state, what people are against is a state that built it's glory by massacring innocent people.
     
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  9. Obamanation

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    #149
    /agree. Why is it some on this forum justify terrorist attacks, while in the same breath condemning Israel?

    If Jews are good at "manipulating", and Al Jazerah are helping balance what is fed to us, are you saying they are "manipulating" the news in another direction? If so, I agree with you 100%. Seems everyone is clamoring to "manipulate" the news to suit their needs these days.

    I agree again. The majority of Muslims are probably NOT against a Jewish state, but the majority of Palestinians are. If it is an issue of a state that has built its glory by massacring innocent people, you must be referring to America..... or Russia... or China.... or Saudi Arabia... or Iraq... or Iran... I'm wondering if there is any state I can actually leave off of that list.

    Sorry to interrupt your congratulatory posting to Incomesinternational. I thought I would add some balance of my own to the conversation.
     
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  10. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #150
    Or stop waving your flag thinking your patriotic (for a moment) then reverse your logic and the question, and apply it to your government, their cover-ups for war crimes and terrorists etc

    Now wave your flag and cheer! whilst writing your next post one-handed:D
     
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  11. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #151
    Oh yes I missed that bit.

    The bit where you say American's have massacred people (in response to someone saying Israel massacres people) therefore it's no big thing, so it's ok for Israel to do the same.

    I didn't realise you were admitting Israel is a terrorist state, see when you stop waving the flag you can think!

    BTW I used to be just like you IE everyone that doesn't sing the American national anthem and wave the flag and shout: "TERRORIST"
    "TERRORIST SUPPORTER"
    "HE'S AGAINST THE PATRIOT ACT! TERRORIST!"
    "HE THINKS WE SHOULDN'T TORTURE PEOPLE - TERRORIST"
    "HE SAID BUSH SUCKS - OMG TERRORIST"

    The thing is sooner or later a non biased person will see through and stop buying the hype and find their conscience.

    - Seriously grow up.
     
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  12. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #152
    lmao. Reading comprehension not your specialty eh?
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #153
    He/She only ever reads what they want, and always seems to see something that was never there. It's a bit scary to tell you the truth. This is often a sign of bi-polar disorder FYI. :eek:
     
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  14. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    #154
    Yea it is, We had this difficulty with you the other day;)
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #155
    Only one of us (Toopac) had "difficulty."
    :eek::eek::eek:
     
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  16. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Toopac Peon

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    #158
    Nice link switch:rolleyes:

    Are you going to answer or respond to the OG post? or are you just thread hijacking?
     
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