Israel Project a charity (Yea right)

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Toopac, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. #1
    New (the member) posted a link a day or so ago to a document entitled:

    The Israel Project’s 2009 GLOBAL LANGUAGE DICTIONARY, it's an Israeli/Jewish guide to enable other Israeli/Jews to hood wink Americans, but it's not just any guide, I have spent a day or so just reading it, it's long and detailed (and I have not finished reading it yet).

    It an extremely detailed document that outlines how to manipulate American and world opinion, so that they are sympathetic to Israel, it's 116 pages long (PDF) and analyses how susceptible American's are to manipulation by playing on emotions to gain sympathy, support, and to enable the continued destruction of Palestine under the guise of peace, and to manipulate American's opinions into supporting wars (Yes they want you to support an Iran war).

    It's worth reading though because it shows you the real side of the conflict and the side they want to portray to the world, and how they manipulate you and others.

    This is just one paragraph out of 116 pages, it's at paragraph (3) page 90 under the section entitled: TALKING TO THE AMERICAN LEFT and says:

    Isn't that just unbelievable? but the entire document is racist, intolerant, evil and supremacist in nature.

    On their site (theisraelproject.org) they say:

    Quite alarming considering it's evil 'masquerading as good' a 'charity'.

    On this site you can see Netanyahu and other zionists in the video backing the "Israel Project", why one who ask? An informed person would say 'I know'. The site is doing all the usual fear mongering and playing the victim as can be seen from the video (as described in the guide).

    • Is it Anti-Semetic to point this out? Yes
    • Is it anti-semetic to read the report and see what they don't want you to see? Yes
    • Is it Anti-Semetic to "fail to see why it is necessary for armored tanks to shoot at unarmed kids" That is very Anti-Semetic.

    Doesn't this just make you sick to the bottom of your stomach?
     
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  2. Traditione

    Traditione Well-Known Member

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    Fight ignorance wherever it is.

    I have so many Jewish friends, I'd actually say the majority of my friends are Jewish.

    I debate and argue with them mercilessly and have gotten a few of them inflamed enough to want to start a fight, which I readily welcome, but something about the glimpse of TRUTH they see when I denounce their Zionism makes them restrain their lack of thinking.

    Be peaceful, but non-passive or forgiving, when delivering the truth.

    These people think they are chosen, remember that, and yet believe in Democracy and equality...As long as they are on top, of course. The rest of the world is equal, they are just superior.
     
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    Success is the best revenge.
     
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  4. new

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    Thanks to gauharjk who has tipped me about it


    here is an analysis of this manual

    "“The Israel Project”, a US media advocacy group, has produced a revised training manual to help the worldwide Zionist movement win the propaganda war, keep their ill-gotten territorial gains and persuade international audiences to accept that their crimes are necessary and conform to “shared values” between Israel and the civilized West.

    It’s a clever document.

    The manual teaches how to justify the slaughter, the ethnic cleansing, the land-grabbing, the cruelty and the blatant disregard for international law and UN resolutions, and make it all smell sweeter with a liberal squirt of the aerosol of persuasive language. It is designed to hoodwink us ignorant and gullible Americans and Europeans into believing that we actually share values with the racist regime in Israel and that its abominable behaviour is therefore deserving of our support.

    And the manual will no doubt serve as a communications primer for the army of cyber-scribblers that Israel’s Ministry of Dirty Tricks is recruiting to spread Zionism’s poison across the internet....

    ...And Here’s the Rationale Behind it.... Israel does not want peace. It has never met its peace agreement obligations. Every action is directed at keeping the conflict going until the Israelis have stolen enough land and established enough 'facts on the ground' - Jews-only settlements"


    so finally our honorable and so called atheist members like brwntwn and choastrivia have a Holy Book in form of this guide, they might have many more like these but are too ashamed to share them with us :confused:
     
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  5. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Wow this is quite shocking, a special interest group that actually tries to influence the media with their own bias. Amazing news. I think I'll contact FOX news and see if they want to write about it.
     
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  6. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    Lol Fox would never: say that this interest group says in their own guide:

    :rolleyes:
     
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  7. new

    new Peon

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    I wonder why the zionosts even need such shameful techniques, given their total control over traditional media with which they have brainwashed the americans, greed ? may be they can't even tolerate a single dissenting voice ?
     
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  8. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    Well the funny thing is these people infest politics and politicians, media and ultimately the people, there are good examples on this forum.

    Yet, these same people believe in shooting unarmed kids from armored tanks, says a lot really, and to say the savvy media people don't know this, is a stretch to say the least.
     
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    debunked Prominent Member

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    Why I waste my time I don't know, but hey I will give it a try....

    Your quote of the tanks was showing the point of view that Israel is up against. People like you who say they use tanks against an unarmed child. Reread that paragraph. This time try to understand that the writer through all of this was making similar points - how the uneducated views Israel. Are you just saying that you are one of the uneducated that they are referring to throughout the report?

    Let me guess you followed a link from menji's site that said to read that spot just like you did quoting it here.

    Let the crying begin, along with all the hate, probably will say something about christians and jews next, try to make some sort of comparison rather than go back and read the article you linked.

    Can't say I didn't try to educate you.
     
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    this is what it says about people like you
    more words to live by
    yeah they know very well all the bs that isreal has been doing ..
     
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  11. ChaosTrivia

    ChaosTrivia Active Member

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    If you spent so much time to learn more about the jewish religion and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, there were more that we could talk about. Start reading real stuff to gain knowledge, and not looks for bread crumbs in the image of a bunch of 23 individuals who created a lobby and a website...... and represent nobody but themselves.... (http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/c.hsJPK0PIJpH/b.689731/k.A173/Key_TIP_Staff.htm)
    Their name is unfortunate. The real Israel project is the glorious state of Israel - leader in world technology high tech advancement and the only democracy in the middle east - and not their organization. I am a part of the real magnificent project, not theirs ;)

    It is a guide for how to make proper propaganda. and what it does is exactly the opposite than what you, surprisingly or not, misunderstood: it puts the stress on how to make their listeners apply more sense and knowledge (=pro Israel) to overcome their emotions (=pro Palestinians). It doesn't tell how to manipulate, but how to undo manipulation. Never it says to lie, does it? Unlike the Palestinian propaganda system, which are based on lies, exaggerations and fairytales.

    Unlike the Palestinian propaganda, the Israel propaganda is not based on lies. They just teach how to speak. Not to manipulate, but how to undo manipulations.

    Here is the whole thing that you misquoted out of context, especially you omited the last line, so conveniently.

    (Opening paragraph of the chapter.)
    .....
    The aim of this entire document is to help you reach persuadable minds, especially those
    on the left, where you have the greatest communication challenge. However, this chapter
    is much more focused on unearthing the underlying sentiments of the left so you can
    understand them, and then address them head on. After all, Democrats control the White
    House, Congress and Senate – so you need to understand how they think. You also need
    to be very sensitive to the fact that while the Democratic leaders in public office have
    been to Israel and know the facts, vast numbers of their key voters don’t know the basic
    facts about the Middle East.
    ....
    ...
    ... (Discussing how WRONG the American leftists are, out of the goodness of their hearts and their misunderstanding of the ME)
    ...
    ...
    ..

    With these observations in mind, what follows is a thematic guide to communicating to the
    American Left
    :
    1) With their heads, most liberals still support Israel. But their hearts go out to whomever
    looks like the biggest underdog. Right now they feel that is the Palestinians. It
    explains why liberals have become so openly hostile since the start of the Gaza war and
    why life for pro-Israeli communicators will only get more difficult in the future. There is
    far too little sympathy for the plight of Israelis from America’s left, and incredible
    emotional support for the plight of the Palestinians. It is critical to make sure that
    Liberals understand this is a fight between Israel and Iran and its proxies, not just a
    territorial dispute between Israel and Palestinians. In Israel’s short 61 years they have
    faced 7 wars and two intifadas. Almost no Israeli family has escaped the tragedies of war
    unscathed.
    2) The suicide bombings and rocket attacks have become a fact of life, but stories and
    pictures of Palestinian children hurt or killed by an Israeli soldier evoke significant
    anti-Israeli emotion. I blame some of this on key media outlets that wrongfully
    published as truth false allegations by UNWRA and others against Israel during the Gaza
    War. But, the fact is, the pictures coming into people’s homes on a daily basis do a great
    deal to undermine Israel’s cause. If you don’t do something about both news sources, the
    communication problem will only get worse. (And you need to spend as much time
    focused on the visual component of the story as the language you use.)
    Property of The Israel Project. Not for distribution or publication. 2009. 96
    3) The wealth, power and success of Israel actually hurts you in the eyes of the Left, while
    the poverty and failure of the Palestinians work to their benefit. The feeling among the
    liberal elite is that Israel uses all of its advancements and advantages “unfairly” or
    “immorally” against the Palestinians. Israel is so rich and so strong that they fail to see
    why it is necessary for armored tanks to shoot at unarmed kids or why Israel needs to
    level homes or attack villages or, most importantly, why a Palestinian state is a threat to
    Israel’s existence. Making the argument that Israel is a small country with a tiny land
    mass with hostile neighbors all around you won’t win either the hearts of the minds of
    liberal Americans. They think Israel can survive anything.

    4) The nation and those who speak on their behalf that are perceived as being most for
    peace will win more hearts and minds. Period.
    .....
    ...
    .

    Point 3 which you quoted out of context. It was simply a bastard and dishonest thing to do.
    If put in context, it is clear beyond any doubt that point 3 speaks what is "as if" going in the minds of the leftists, and not stating any kind of Israeli policy. The bolded sentence which you omitted makes it even more clear beyond any doubt, as well as the spirit of all the rest of the chapter. This is why you left it out. This document teaches how to do propaganda properly, quote: "a thematic guide to discussing with the american left". It is not claiming that it is necessary for tanks to shoot unarmed kids, not even if you will try to distort it for another 100 years.

    No, it certainly isn't.I see evil in your opening post, not in this paper. I think that I'm not alone.
    It is just a guide on how to debate for the "israeli cause". It does not, at any place, say somebody to lie.


    It is real charity: an oasis of modernity and progress in a desert of backwardness. Backwardness and evil that penetrated the UK lately as well, as you, many arrest, and couple of documentaries I recently saw clearly demonstrate.

    Besides, if all terror funds worldwide are also raised as "charity", supporting the great state of Israel under the disguise of "charity" is fine as well.

    Not so much actually. You dishonesty does.

    Thanks for showing everybody who you really are.
    TheIsraelProject.org will probably thank you too for showing me their important website, and improving my debating techniques, which already outperform all of the muslim gang here, but that's really not fair play.....

    I donated 50$.
    Maintaining our American friends on the side of the high-tech and not on the side of the honor killings, is indeed very important and crucial to the continuation of our miraculous survival in this evil and backward region.
     
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    isn't it amazing, you are such a proud bigot who can't make a single post without doing some la,la ..la,la for terrorist state of isreal, telling other that how 'superior' and 'above' you are from rest of us mortal beings .. ..a true isliely



    yes, of-course it is modern ..peolpe in old times did not know how to twist and justify the slaughter, the ethnic cleansing, the land-grabbing


    own trumpet .. like always ... the idea of 'being chosen' and 'superor' is so deep rooted in your mentality


    fooling our American Friends so they can continue to send us money a ..would be more appropriate here
     
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  13. Toopac

    Toopac Peon

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    Well firstly Chaos trivia you are Intellectual Dishonesty in every sense of the word, but don't think I nor others who have seen the guide and read it will believe The Israel Project is "just a few people who made a site", in fact you know the Isreal Project engages in propaganda techniques as can be seen from the manual but not only that you know all to well what they actually are about;)

    I will help you in a few phrases, these lunatics that support covering up the killing unarmed children meddle in media affairs "whilst pretending to be balanced" and give out distorted facts and lies to the media, to make dumb Americans and others support your crazy plans for war, war, and more war including attacking Iran.

    Which coincidentally you support.

    Well firstly I don't give a crap about the Jewish religion, Muslim religion nor any other religion, I don't want to understand nonsense being an Atheist, which you claim your are too;) However I have read various pieces from all the crap religions, I don't think understanding Judaism more will help me believe in oppressive politics nor killing children which are unarmed from inside your tanks.

    A "Jewish state" is by the very nature discriminatory.

    Of which I schooled you on here as seen below:

    But it's best to ignore the world.... Because you have god(rolls eyes)


    It's not unfortunate at all, it's a guide by stupid religious folk and idiots that "think they are the chosen ones", telling there followers that "leftists won't understand the need to shoot unarmed children from armored tanks", it's not unfortunate it's disgusting.

    Well saying Israeli's "shoot unarmed kids in tanks" is honest, it's not lies - It's just when they spin it off on TV that's the lie. Not to manipulate you say? did you read it?

    Here is the whole thing that you misquoted out of context, especially you omited the last line, so conveniently.

    You guys are not better than the other religious nutters:rolleyes:

    The guide is here read exactly what context it's in, what I posted about it's content is nothing.

    Well after reading that I would say you already were using them, didn't you say earlier "Their name is unfortunate" as if you didn't want Israel associated with them? then after all your talk talk, end up saying I support cover ups of shot unarmed kids?

    Promoting religion - Your an Atheist

    Promoting a charity that actually says they want to manipulate, in fact it says the world "won't understand shooting unarmed kids" - Your for peace

    Promoting GDP and other bullshit like in this thread and others - Nobody is interested the guide does that.

    Do you think the world should "understand", Israel shooting unarmed kids from tanks?
     
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    Implying they would without trying diplomacy but they need support.

    Say Iran-backed Hamas it makes it look like a fairer fighter:rolleyes:

    Oh dear the world saw what happened in Gaza, even with Israeli keeping the media out whilst they comit war crimes.

    The world just doesn't understand:eek:
     
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    save this bullshit for those who didn't see how dishonest and evil you are.
    Of course that I didn't read all the crap evil and stupidity in the last 2 posts, the first post was enough to know that you are a 2nd "new". a liar and evil manipulator.
     
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    OFC - I already pointed out these views are in anti-semite territory :rolleyes:

    Evil and stupidity - I was not the one lol'ing like you did the other day - In the face of all that information from different countries telling Israel they need to stop building settlements, that was you.

    Or poking fun at Muslims then when they test you you cry intolerance.

    By supporting propaganda techniques that is lying.
     
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    I still didn't hear how you explain your quote in the OP which was clearly and knowingly out of context with an intention to distort it.
    Why did you do it?
    Is your hate to the glorious state of Israel so big that you will sell the soul of your grandmother to try and make people believe in your lies?
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Ditto

    I'm gonna have to guess that's the most plausible explanation.
     
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    Care to comment at all on the facts presented? challenge them, say they are correct etc

    Or are you just posting to give moral support to Chaos? or otherwise do what you do in all threads IE divert them.
     
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    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    Wouldn't it be so much easier if I just made some stuff up, and then started to derive meanings from your posts that simply were not there? Hold on, let me take my funny pill so I can join in on the delusion. :rolleyes:
     
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