What proof is there Jesse Jackson hates people based on skin color? You keep saying he is racist without any proof. Do you have any? Then, you turn around and defend the KKK and Neo-Nazis and their whole existence is based on hating and harming people based on skin color. You keep talking about strawmen but have a problem with basic logic and facts. Show court cases, cross burnings, lynchings, or inciting to violence by Jesse Jackson against whites as evidence. If you have none, you are showing why I say your sympathies are with the KKK and Neo-Nazis.
Strawman - you are asking for proof besides his words, I never said he did those things did I? Strawman - Show me where I sympathize with kkk or nazis. - A straw man argument is an informal fallacy based on misrepresentation of an opponent's position. To "attack a straw man" is to create the illusion of having refuted a proposition by substituting a superficially similar proposition (the "straw man"), and refuting it, without ever having actually ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman Racism - the prejudice that members of one race are intrinsically superior to members of other races discriminatory or abusive behavior towards members of another race wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn
So, you have no proof Jesse Jackson is a racist. But, what the hell, you'll call him that anyway. I wonder what your agenda is? Remember this? Now, it's clear. Anyone who tries to speak up for non-whites is a racist in your eyes. By your own definition, you have no evidence, no proof, and no act that Jesse Jackson is racist. Yet, you mention Jesse Jackson in a thread about Neo-Nazis and the KKK as if they are the same. That seems like a sympathetic position to the KKK and Neo-Nazis from where I sit.
Straw man argument requires that the opponent should have a POSITION. You have none, except copy/pasting a link from obamanation without reading, understanding or even posting anything about why that blog post about Jesse Jackson shows he is a racist. Let's change his sentence this way, so may be you get it that it has nothing with racism. "If a person see the sufferings and still votes against health care bill, he can not call himself human.", does this sentence makes the writer a racist against human race.
Even his quoted definition is not supporting his position: Jesse Jackson did neither by saying what he did.
That is the point - you are trying to say I am standing for nazis and such. That isn't my position and far from it. That IS the strawman. He is a black-supremacist same thing as a white-supremacist. Are you blind? Almost everything jesse jackson says - if said by someone with a different skin color would be called out by the media as racism, do you give him the same free pass?
As Debunked stated, above. Let's say Rush said "I want to cut that N words nuts off" like Jackson did. Would that be branded racist? I'm not sure why this double standard is acceptable to some here. Watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4aLGkFpsdHo He's also unemployed.
So, you are using a made-up word to describe Jesse Jackson to justify the existence and presence of the KKK and Neo-Nazis. What is a "black supremacist" anyway? What organizations do they represent? What court cases, criminal acts, or legislation have they caused? Once again, you have no proof so you just start pulling words out of the air to justify your defense of the KKK and Neo-Nazis. How you equate "WORDS" by a non-white to violent and murderous "ACTS" by a white-supremacist organization shows which side you support.
You are still building a strawman up. I am neither racists or supporting of any racist group. So go ahead and burn him down, it isn't me. You could just do a little search on the internet before you claim that I make up words - black supremacy Have you ever heard of the group "nation of islam"? I suppose that they are peaceful as well? Jesse jackson makes his money on making everything out to be racist. Isn't he one of those who made the claim that president Bush made Katrina to destroy blacks? That kind of claim would have to be motivated by some form of hatred. Jesse jackson lost his way after the assassination of King.
Black Panthers and KKK are both M4s0n1c. Do not argue with me in this matter, study their rituals. Divide and conquer does not mean to split your troops, but theirs; extremism makes losers of everyone. Disciplined use of the energy of extremism supersedes both left and right ideologies. Rest assured any public figure of prominence and renown is very, very in cahoots with those on the side that at face value opposes them.
What on earth does the KKK and the NeoNazi's have to do with Jesse Jackson? Jackson's made his living race bating... It's what the unemployed panhandler does. He's very good at it, and has done very well for himself on the heals of those that actually work for a living.
So, you're saying the Nation of Islam and other so-called "black supremacy" groups exist to violently attack and kill whites? Their purpose is to deny rights to whites and to ship them back to Europe? Is that what your point? You are saying these groups have a history of murders and mayhem on whites? But, wait, you say you have no proof of anything you post. Yet, you keep posting it and wonder why it comes off as more apologies and sympathy for the KKK and Neo-Nazis. Jesse Jackson is not a racist by your definition. He has never denied any white of life, liberty, or happiness. So, you putting Jesse Jackson as an example of a racist is the epitome of a strawman. Now, why are you so intent on painting Jesse Jackson, the Nation of Islam, or other "black supremacy" groups with the same brush as the KKK and Neo-Nazis when you offer no proof of this? If I didn't know any better, you sound a like KKK/Neo-Nazi spokesman (like David Duke). Is that you, David? Nothing. This is one of those once-in-a-blue-moon situations where I completely agree with your post.
So all of this just for you to say that it is OK for any race to hate, stir up hatred, kill, or whatever they want as long as it isn't done by the white idiot? Why do you hate whites? What other race do you hate? Do you hate my wife, kids, mother-in-law, father-in-law, me? Which shades are good in your book? Oh, jesse jackson is pale compared to one of those I just listed. Again, I don't agree, support, or even like the attitudes, hatreds, thinking of the white supremacists or black supremacists. Neither group has been currently active in murder or mayhem that I know of, but all of them have the same freedom of speech in the USA. Now only a complete moron would say that somehow I support one of these hate groups.
My position is simple; You are less inclined to take issue with the KKK or Neo-Nazis than Jesse Jackson based on what you posted and why you posted (yet you may claim in your defense all are racists), this can be seen particularly by your support of Mia, not once did you denounce what Mia said when he said that the ‘KKK are harmless’, not once did you even comment about this ridiculous statement, instead you back him up when challenged about that opinion (that’s evidence to support my position). You said “North Idaho use to have a neo-nazi group that lived there and as long as the laws weren't broken they stayed, guess what - they did attack someone because of color and now mr.butler (is he related to you?) no longer has a place to live ... boo-hooo†They get punished if caught? Boo hoo? (like it’s no big thing) – Yet the point was they are NOT harmless and what you posted supported that. Also when Mia was challenged about what he said, then you create the diversion i.e Jesse Jackson and immediately start attacking me (an obvious diversion) your assertions about Jesse Jackson were not based on fact, and only served to divert. The undisputed fact is that the Neo-Nazi's / KKK are NOT harmless as Mia stated. To say that is dishonest to say the least. Another gem: Yes the KK have not! as Cynthia McKinney would probably say "his negro tolerance level has never been too high." Nevertheless whilst defending or diverting from that ignorance, those not taking issue with what was said, nor the KKK, were also coincidentally attributing falsehoods to a black guy (coincidentally) Jesse Jackson whom challenges racism such as what the KKK spouts and generally attacking him “asshole†‘said Mia’. Prove that. That's because they are harmless (or should be armless) Heres one: http://www.nbc33tv.com/news/kkk-murder-indictment (white person killed by KKK maybe they are not so harmless now (no pun intended))
CONTEXT... What is it you and several others like you here have against quoting people in the context in which their comments were made? http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12943284&postcount=14 You can run around all day telling people I said the KKK is harmless. Fact is, that is not what I said, you know it. Please try and be a bit more truthful. Keep it up, and I will call you on it every time!!! For the record: You've done just that; thrown light on my meaning. If you are going to quote me, be sure to quote everything I said in its proper context. There is another fucktard here that has spent years doing the same and all its ever gotten him is frustration and infractions.
Is this out of context? You need to think before posting I have 8 since being here, won't get many either, no matter how many posts are reported, I think the ones reporting yesterday got infractions (I saw the mod close and then open topics)
This is funny. You are trying to use NON-VIOLENT Jesse Jackson, the Nation of Islam, or other "black supremacy" groups (as you call them) to legitimize the VIOLENT KKK and the Neo-Nazis. Yet, you can't see how that shows your sympathies for the KKK and Neo-Nazis. I can't help it if whites are the ones creating VIOLENT HATE GROUPS. But, it seems you want to blame non-whites for that, too. It's like you just can't accept that non-whites, just maybe, aren't the problem here. But, you keep wanting to include them. Interesting.
None of what you say about me above is true, but it seems that the opposite must be true for you. nation of islam has been known for violence - probably more recorded violence than that of the wussy neo-nazis in the last few years. Quit trying to place your racism on me. If you hate whites, brown, blacks or whatever, just say it. I hate none and I don't support or give free passes to any hate group no matter what race they find to be best - they are all lame. I must have hit a nerve with you, so which hate group are you a part of?
How something so simple went right over your head, I'll never know. Wow. Won't get many? You're 2 short of going bye bye!