Thanks for the insight into DMOZ Anon. I do hope i will be accepted at some stage. I feel my site matches the criteria and is certainly different from all other websites in my sector. I have one more question if I may, how long after a submission to DMOZ is it considered fair to make another submission for the same website? I dont want to make too many and risk getting stuck on a blacklist of submission spammers Andy
Once you have suggested the site you can do nothing else as future suggestions of the same site will merely overwrite the existing one. A volunteer editor may review the site but there is no time frame provided.
As sites are now placed within a "suggestion pool" rather then a "queue" the placement of where it is at means positively NOTHING. So your post is misleading, as it leads people to believe that sites suggested get placed into a QUEUE which magically means it will be looked at in the proper order.
In fact, editors in this forum say suggesting your site more than once is counter productive, as it overwrites the submission date. If it weren't a submission queue the order wouldn't matter at all, would it?
Oh I wish you could read, Cap, it would make life far easier. I have said at least twice if not more that SOME editors do review sites in date order that they were submitted in order to review the very old suggestions and list or reject them. The editor may not deal with all the suggestions in that area, just those that are over 6 months, 1 year or more. The re-submitted sites would then look like recent additions and be missed. I have often done this leaving fairly recent sites for another visit, but I also pick out from the pool sometimes sites that I am pretty sure will get moved or deleted and also the ones that look as though they will be listable. There is NO pattern and your insistence that suggestions are a queue, just underscores that we were right to start changing the terminology so as not to perpetuate that myth, except among some people who want to try and decry DMOZ by continuing it and ignoring anything they are told.
I didnt mislead anyone, just you reading things into anything that you can I merely said that it overwrites the existing suggestion, i didnt mention orders, or queues or even suggestion pools. A secondary submission will overwrite the first one and will in no way assist his cause. What you were lead to believe is simply what you WANT to believe and nothing else.
Just to clarify: Repeated suggestions of a URL are unlikely to expedite its evaluation. They can have the opposite effect though. Excessive suggestions can trigger a ban. Conclusion: Don't make them.
Did I miss something? I know I'm still a bit new here, at least based on the number of posts that I've made, not based on the time I've been a members. Anyhow, is this NOT an outsource site that is well noted for the many great service providers that can help you with such things ? ? ? Jeffrey S. Wyrick
What? Oh yeah, that's what I thought you said... You MUST be able to understand the confusion here. Some treat it like a queue, it's been called a queue for YEARS, it suddenly is NOT a queue even though some still treat it like a queue. Honestly, I think that the topic of selling links was finally hitting a nerve and now you are just blowing smoke over the real issues and problems within the directory by going on and on over the terminology. Honestly, with all the time it took internally to make up the decision to change "queue" to "suggestion pool" could have been spent much better by actually SOLVING real problems. As the sites are not in a queue, then resubmitting could potentially place your site in the random order that an editor is listing them in... so it does run the chance of increasing the odds of a listing.
Even for you, Q, that's a pretty twisted piece of logic. Reviewing is not random but has something to do with sites that are clearly not relevant to that category, sites that need rejecting, sites that have tried hard to match what we want or sites which clearly fit. You seem to have some sense sometimes, please don't destroy that by suggesting the order is random in the sense that we pick out 2, 7, 9 in the list what ever the site and add or even review them. But it has always been that editors are not required to review all or any suggestions and we simply want to reflect that because people were not realising that queue meant in a list, but thought it meant they would be dealt with in the order submitted and that is just not the way. We do not try and say they are dealt with in any order except how an editor wants to use the sites that have been suggested. The editor will porobably shift out the obvious sites that are not relevant, don't fit, don't belong and look at the ones that seem to have tried to follow guidelines. Sorry if you don't like that, sorry if you have interpreted Q to mean we do it in order ......you see that is why we try and reflect reality and call it a suggestions pool. Easy!
That was a really looooong post to not even talk about the thing you quoted... or are you saying I am actually wrong? If it's NOT a queue, and the suggestions are not looked at in order, then they have to be looked at out of order. CORRECT? If it's not correct, then it is a QUEUE! Now, if I submitted a year ago, and I submitted once again today. My old suggestion has been removed in favor of my new suggestion. If an editor goes through the suggestion pool in reverse (they ARE allowed to do that after all, it's NOT a queue) then my entry gets looked at first! Now, if on the off chance the editor does not start at one end or the other, and simply skims through the titles/descriptions, then my placement in the suggestion pool would not be effected for better or for worse. HOWEVER, I do understand that multiple submissions can result in the removal of a site and even the banning of a site...but submitting a second, or even a third time should likely not warrant such an action. I also understand that editors are not required to look at the suggestion pool at all... in which case suggesting the site to start with was a complete and total waste of time in many categories....yeah, yeah, some editors have access to all categories. Try telling that to the nice people that submitted sites three years ago.
Interestingly enough. Here you have a couple of links: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1284561&highlight=suggestion+date+pushing+down#7 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1146110&highlight=overwrite&page=2#40 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=1040830&highlight=suggestion+date&page=3#47 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=7708&highlight=overwrite&page=3#43 You can see, in the first place, that suggesting a site more than once is counter productive. There is no doubt about it. An there is more: you can see there is yet another name for the queue. Somewhere in time, someone started calling it a PILE! Now, in a pile, the last object you place in it is the first one to come out. Imagine a pile of dishes. If you put five dishes in the pile and then you took one. That will be the last one. Should we think that the last suggested site is the first to be reviewed? A pile is yet an ordered container. This one is really good. And if the pile concept is true, the more you submit your site, better chances to be reviewed.
I guess he is LOL ! Really Q, Creed is right why obsess about its name. Me, I call it a pile of S--T that most editors don't bother to look at or won't ever look at. Whatever I call it there's nothing they can do. Anonymously is playing with you and your taking the bait.
Well, it goes like this... I've been a member here at DP for a few years now, and am an ex-editor of the ODP... and up till just a few short weeks ago no one every bothered to care what it was called, and as such, me as well as hundreds of others calling it a queue was not much of an issue. Then they went and changed the meaning of the words and started to call it something else. Now when ever I call it a queue this or that editor comes in to correct me and point to my edit history. Thats YEARS of me calling it a QUEUE, and YEARS of other editors calling it a QUEUE, and YEARS of non-editors calling it a queue... now it's not a queue, yet what the heck happened to make it not a queue? Simple... a handful of editors behind closed doors decided that they don't like using the queue at all so that makes it not a queue for some strange reason. *boggle* yet a rose by any other name... Personally, I like the term PILE and will likely just start using that... as it's clear it really does not matter, as they will likely just change the definitions of things again and still not ever bother to update their documentation.
Call it whatever you wish - if the editors don't like it who cares? If they want to change the definition so be it. Documentation outdated? What's new. Don't let them get you worked up over it - ain't worth it.
Someone said "submit and forget", that would be my answer as well.. Im trying to get into dmoz last 5 years lol.