What do you think about the relegion Islam(specialy non-muslims)

I didn't say that 7 years old is adult.

I said that I hated to be dealt with as a child when I was 7.

Then I said that when I was 10 (adult, i.e. I became adult at 10), I was offended by that treatment.

If you like someone to treat you as a child, then that is your business, I don't mind, but I would suppose people are like me, so I said that I deal with people as I like them to deal with me.


So, I wouldn't consider 10 years old person as a child.

But regarding this issue, if 7 years old person become adult, then he is not a child for me.

And if we suppose that 3 years old become adult miraclously, then he is superman, and I think superman can do what he wishes.

Adult people are not children.
Children are not adult people.

Remember that Islam is not calling for such marriage, but it gives the freedom for people to marry whom they like according to some conditions.

NPT,

You are atheist, you don't know the Creator, I am a muslim, I know Him.

You don't have to accept Islam, I don't have to behave ignorantly.

I believe the creation is not yours, so I don't refer to you in what is lawful and what is forbidden.

 

please explain? rephrase? what does it mean that the creation is not "his"?

 

Polite, the link you cite referenced "7" as an age of "consent," in certain "contexts." I am aware you pronounced you were "adult" at 10 years of age.

I'm also aware you avoided answering, what's your criteria? I'm curious what criteria you would have us use that distinguishes a human being, 9-10, not yet even pubescent, from a human being, aged 3, 5, 6 - whatever, such that they are legitimately an equal partner to a marriage with an adult, and all that entails.

I am an atheist, and simply hold no belief in the divine. You believe in a divinity, which is fine with me (so long as your beliefs don't hurt others, living here and now). But to say you "know" Allah is simply another belief. You feel it deeply, also fine. But with respect, Polite, you know nothing more than what's in your gut, the stuff that tickles nerves, pools in your lymphatic system, and so on. Not that beliefs can't be fun - hell, whatever keeps us going for the short time we have as living things (one of the reasons I enjoy thought-play on the pagan pantheon) - but to conflate them with a certitude is, in my opinion, an illusion.

At any rate, while I do appreciate you are virtually the only Muslim to come forward and explain your rationale of what I and virtually the entire planet calls pedophilia, you have provided zero legitimate justification for it.

Which is to be expected. There isn't any justification for it. The practice is a savage denial of humanity to children everywhere, and until it is eradicated, among many other things, there will never be an understanding between your beliefs, and mine.

 

Islam came to fit all time till the day of Judgment.

If in this time, it causes more harm than benefit, it is banned.

In the past, it was not harmful, so it was fine.

Since you wish to have an example:

If I go to a country with my child, and I don't know anyone there, I would search for her/him a spouse that I feel is good and merciful so that if I died there, my child will not be lost.

At least, I can die while I am not worry very much about her/him.

 

you can have the same person adopt your child, better option. but now i am going to ask a different question. a question that goes to the heart of what is wrong with islam as it is practiced today.
if islam fits all times then why muslems insist on doing things like centuries ago. why can't they live with islam that fits today and now?
for example the women's clothing. why are there muslem countries that they insist the women must dress like they did hundreds of years ago, why can not they modify it. why do they try to fit their lives to how islam was practicedin the past. why can't they find how islam fits in today's life.

 

If you raise your child to be dependent on either you or its future spouse, shame on you. Why not teach your child to become independent and take care of herself.

 

If not sexualy mature, how can a five year old gave birth?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_youngest_birth_mothers

Law makers in different countries thinks of age of consent differently.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Age_of_Consent.png

 

Are you kidding me? these occurrences are incredibly rare. the fact that they have their own wikipedia page should have suggested how rare they are... But hey, don't let that stop you defending child rape and paedophilia in the name of religion.

Your argument is basically "it's ok to rape children because a 5 year old once had a baby after being raped".

Law makers in Saudi Arabia, unsurprisingly enough, think any age is acceptable and have no law regarding age of consent. Imagine that. in Saudi Arabia, according to your map depicting ages of consent, it's not actually illegal to have sex with a 2 year old. Disgusting fucking animals.

Do you agree with Saudi Arabia's law makes?

 

How could you understand that his argument suggest it is ok to rape child?

It seems that when you hear the fact that 20 years old girls can give birth, you understand it as: It is ok to rape 20 years old!

How sad is to have such mental illness.

 

If she is independent of me can take care of herself, then don't oppose her choice if she want to marry whom she wish.

So, in both cases such marriage is justified.

 

he was, as you always do, trying to justify sex with children as young as five by pretending as though children of 5 are "sexually mature" and therefore an adult. We all know, so long as we dont work back from a conclusion and try to justify it, that a 5 year old person is a child, and therefore sex with them is, by definition, rape.

 

Where in my post I stated rape is OK?

screw Saudia Arabia, they are barbarians.

US law allows you to have sexual relations with a 9 year old. If the relation is legal. I do not support any illegal acts of sexuality.

 

Thank you for sharing your justification for child rape in Islam.

 

What kind of clothes do you like them to wear?

Remember:

Tell the believing men to lower their gaze and be modest. That is purer for them. Lo! Allah is aware of what they do. (30)

And tell the believing women to lower their gaze and be modest, and to display of their adornment only that which is apparent, and to draw their veils over their bosoms, and not to reveal their adornment save to their own husbands or fathers or husbands' fathers, or their sons or their husbands' sons, or their brothers or their brothers' sons or sisters' sons, or their women, or their slaves, or male attendants who lack vigour, or children who know naught of women's nakedness. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And turn unto Allah together, O believers, in order that ye may succeed. (31)

Sexual clothes are only lawful between pairs.

 

You don't need to show us that you too, have mental illness.

It is very well known, browntwn.

 

any thing that they want.

this part has to be interpeted to reflect todays type of clothing. it is done in some places . but some are not adjusting to the times, as a result they actually stand out. it is not modest at all.

 

Jewelries are usually covered.

Some people consider females to be more valuable than Jewelries.

Just to have an idea about what others might think.

 

It's wrong but not necessarily unjustified.

Wars cost thousands of life yet we have America bombing Iraq, and Israel bombing Palestine..

Most of the times they are wrong, but we'd have to take it on a case by case basis.

I personally think 16 should be the OK age for anybody to be married, without any parental control. Or is 16 too young of an age too?

Please keep in mind that in certain countries, women are denied the right to drive, education and have to do what they're told by their parents until they're married off to someone.

To them, marriage is the only way out. Change your POV for a second and think.. deeply.

 

You're so brainwashed and diluted it's sickening.

It should never be OK for anybody to have sex with a 9 year old. Period.

Child adoption is a better option. But I guess the clerics don't like that idea huh?

 

Most girls that wear Burkha are fat and ugly. FACT.