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alexme
Aug 20th 2008, 11:03 pm
I thought that Title might catch your attention...

I use AWStats and Google Analytics website statistics.

My main directory thegreatdirectory.org (alexa rank ~200000) received 5200 unique visitors last month and another one of my sites (alexa rank ~530000) got 9000 unique visitors.

So a site with almost double the amount of visitors has an alexa traffic rank 330000 less, make sense? Nope, it doesn't!

Anyone seen similar things?

chuckypita
Aug 20th 2008, 11:06 pm
That's quite interesting really. I always thought Alexa was a touch "behind".

alexme
Aug 20th 2008, 11:17 pm
so,...what your suggest pagerank for our site....
www.smart-businessman.com

How does this relate to what the topic is???

aspire
Aug 20th 2008, 11:27 pm
You are right - Alexa is wrong.

Cakk15
Aug 21st 2008, 5:54 am
Weird... alexa is usually never wrong

scorp777
Aug 21st 2008, 6:51 am
alexa is usually wrong! I never trust their ranking.

kailash
Aug 21st 2008, 9:34 am
Alexa calculate the traffic rank from the users who are using their toolbar. That means the sites view by the users who don't have alexa toolbar installed will be excluded from their rank.

Kailash

alexme
Aug 21st 2008, 3:30 pm
Alexa calculate the traffic rank from the users who are using their toolbar. That means the sites view by the users who don't have alexa toolbar installed will be excluded from their rank.

Kailash

To a certain extent you are right but recently they changed it so that they get their traffic source information from "other sources" as well, which they didn't mention what they were but hey it's obviously not working for 'em! :rolleyes:

seriousbadman
Aug 24th 2008, 5:46 am
To a certain extent you are right but recently they changed it so that they get their traffic source information from "other sources" as well, which they didn't mention what they were but hey it's obviously not working for 'em! :rolleyes:


ye of course there are niches and groups where you cant know for example hiphop addicts that hate toolbars and cant get reached by other alexa sources. its just statistics...

alexme
Aug 24th 2008, 4:21 pm
ye of course there are niches and groups where you cant know for example hiphop addicts that hate toolbars and cant get reached by other alexa sources. its just statistics...

lol, that is true though...

desilator
Aug 24th 2008, 4:24 pm
I thought everyone knew Alexa was useless already?

mr.SEO
Aug 25th 2008, 1:57 am
It's easy to change Alexa's result. that the reason alexa it not belivable

hans
Oct 13th 2008, 1:44 pm
I thought that Title might catch your attention...

I use AWStats and Google Analytics website statistics.

My main directory thegreatdirectory.org (alexa rank ~200000) received 5200 unique visitors last month and another one of my sites (alexa rank ~530000) got 9000 unique visitors.

So a site with almost double the amount of visitors has an alexa traffic rank 330000 less, make sense? Nope, it doesn't!

Anyone seen similar things?

alexa is RIGHT - YOU are WRONG
you failed to READ alexa info !!!
read what alexa says about traffic accuracy for LOW traffic sites / site ranking BELOW 100'000
see
http://www.alexa.com/site/help/?index=84

FYI
the new Google feauture about websites traffic is as much wrong as alexa is ! = up to 200+% off the real traffic data!!!

Bohol
Oct 21st 2008, 3:28 pm
Trust Google Analytics figure. I wonder why people are so particular with Alexa ranking. Alexa is an antiquated tool.

Reii
Oct 28th 2008, 7:17 am
Alexa gets their info by doing a port scan.If someone have an Anti-virus/Spyware software it will block the port scan.
I also think that Alexa is wrong.

Trust Google Analytics.

hans
Oct 28th 2008, 7:55 am
I recently checked the Google data for websites traffic
it was FAR off the true data - far more than alexa!
but of course the published alexa rules apply to ALL

no accuracy for ranks higher than 100'000
the better the rank the more accurate the data

Google data were off by some 300%!!

gostats
Nov 5th 2008, 9:14 pm
Alexa is not meant to be correct for sites with traffic in lower numbers. Since Alexa uses a partially random statistical sample to build their data, they cannot provide accuate details for sites which they have a tiny sample. It is nearly impossible for them to track your site unless your site itself is teamed up with Alexa and sending data to them.

Aldo
Nov 8th 2008, 7:00 pm
Indeed. Alexa can only get traffic data from those people who actually use their toolbar, if people don't visit your site and use Alexa's toolbar, it won't be accounted for... Alexa is very inaccurate, and should never really be relied on. Most people use Alexa merely to give advertisers a faint idea of how much traffic the site gives.

However, supposedly from what I hear some say that the more traffic your site gets, the more accurate it gets, like Google and Yahoo! :P but yeah, don't really rely on Alexa

Scar
Nov 8th 2008, 7:39 pm
Alexa also gathers data from webmasters who elect to include an Alexa widget on their site. I added the widget and my ranking jumped about a million spots in a period of about two days. Obviously not accurate, but I thought it was interesting.

Aldo
Nov 8th 2008, 8:05 pm
Maybe it then uses traffic data it gets from the images traffic? :o Which would make it a heck of a lot more accurate... but still kind of a joke

LordNaz
Nov 8th 2008, 8:08 pm
i think its ok ?

jeffreyhuan
Nov 8th 2008, 8:17 pm
I believe that's why your site with more traffic actually has lower Alexa rankings.



Alexa calculate the traffic rank from the users who are using their toolbar. That means the sites view by the users who don't have alexa toolbar installed will be excluded from their rank.

Kailash

indyonline
Nov 8th 2008, 9:02 pm
Yes. I posted a thread about this a few weeks ago and what I found out is that they only count the traffic from people who have the alexa toolbar installed.

Dollar
Nov 8th 2008, 10:05 pm
Alexa is not meant to be correct for sites with traffic in lower numbers. Since Alexa uses a partially random statistical sample to build their data, they cannot provide accuate details for sites which they have a tiny sample. It is nearly impossible for them to track your site unless your site itself is teamed up with Alexa and sending data to them.

This "Teamed" thing you said at the end, I understand what you mean.
Does Alexa offer this? That would seem to me a better way to get your site ranked then rely on toolbar users who are far and inbetween.

Generaly though I can gather from experince a site that is near the 100K rank or so get probably 30K+ visitors a month. Most of which only a handful will actually have the toolbar.

SEOBOT
Nov 8th 2008, 10:17 pm
i have already mashed up thread "How does alexa track statistics" - the results i got is they track with their toolbar.:)
quite annoying thing tracking website with toolbar.
i dont trust alexa ranking i prefer google analytics

tchr52170
Nov 9th 2008, 12:03 am
But whether you have Alexa or Google rankings, the figures can be used for analysis. If you don't rank high with Google, something must be wrong with your keywords and you've got to do something about it knowing that more people use Google.

ronmac
Nov 9th 2008, 6:02 am
Stick and Alexa widget on your site and you will get more consistant results.

ferdousx
Nov 12th 2008, 11:09 am
Alexa is not 100% correct ofcourse. For my country statistics I find some good popular site missing. And also some site that cannot be in top 100. And ofcourse, howmany people install alexa toolbar?

jackk4
Nov 13th 2008, 4:13 am
Alexa has its own ranking algo. its not similar to the google or yahoo. Its estimate the rank according to sites visitors

jkookserv
Nov 14th 2008, 4:40 am
I think Alexa's stats are 2 weeks behind.

Aldo
Nov 14th 2008, 4:25 pm
Well yeah, sorta, the stats aren't live, they are probably compiled every 3-5 days from what I notice, because if they were live, that would be a lot of data to be constantly processing

alexa_s
Nov 14th 2008, 4:46 pm
I thought that Title might catch your attention...

It caught mine. I found myself thinking "There's no need to be like that about it" :eek::D

RectangleMan
Nov 14th 2008, 4:56 pm
It can only be wrong if they claimed 100% accuracy. They don't. It's their own ranking system. You might as well say Google results are wrong too.

Aldo
Nov 14th 2008, 7:57 pm
Not really, Google is not incorrect, they depend on something they can create and monitor themselves, unlike Alexa where they depend on other people to give them their data

lifeplayer
Nov 14th 2008, 8:05 pm
As i know that alexa only collect the data with those visitor who using alexa tool, therefore the data is lesser than the actual

ferdousx
Nov 15th 2008, 10:10 am
Thread is about alexa, started by alexme, one replyer alex_s. Lots of 'alex's all around!:D

domainloco.net
Nov 16th 2008, 10:48 am
I am having a similar problem with a couple of sites, I knew alexa can't tell who visits the site without that computer having their toolbar.

Anyway, if you have wordpress I recommend using a tool called "wassup". I use it on all my installs and it provides instant tracking, as well as spiders and a ton of other important features google analytics does not offer.

dezinerite
Nov 16th 2008, 10:56 am
Looks really strange to me...but then again I don't really trust alexa...give it some time and maybe it'll stabilize a little...

loveparadiseforyou
Nov 19th 2008, 1:24 am
I have the same view. Alexa stats confuse me also. Is there any other way to find out the popularity of your blog. Regarding number of page clicks.. histats looks alright..

wptheme
Nov 19th 2008, 2:00 am
My main directory thegreatdirectory.org (alexa rank ~200000) received 5200 unique visitors last month and another one of my sites (alexa rank ~530000) got 9000 unique visitors.
----your directory gets mostly webmaster traffic (installed Alexa toolbar) while the other does not.
Even though the latest change in Alexa algorithm minimizes the effect of their toolbar, sites with webmaster traffic still has a slight better advantage. :)
DP is a webmaster forum. See their Alexa rank. Drop a bit due to the change but still in the top 3K.
I have seen sites a lot bigger than DP but only under 5K. What does that mean?

Dollar
Nov 21st 2008, 7:23 pm
My main directory thegreatdirectory.org (alexa rank ~200000) received 5200 unique visitors last month and another one of my sites (alexa rank ~530000) got 9000 unique visitors.
----your directory gets mostly webmaster traffic (installed Alexa toolbar) while the other does not.
Even though the latest change in Alexa algorithm minimizes the effect of their toolbar, sites with webmaster traffic still has a slight better advantage. :)
DP is a webmaster forum. See their Alexa rank. Drop a bit due to the change but still in the top 3K.
I have seen sites a lot bigger than DP but only under 5K. What does that mean?

heh Good point. I think alot of webmasters have the toolbar installed. I remember when Digitalpoint.com used to be around 300 on Alexa.