Adult Website

[kalius]

Note: If this goes against some rule im sorry, I didnt found anithing against it

I think I found an Some Adult keyword niches, And I'm thinking if I should go on or not. I would like to know if there is people around here with this kind of websites and they can tell me how I should be protecting myself from the law etc if I decide to go on. If people don't wnat to post its ok, just PM me and well keep the conversation private.

Also Anyone with experience with adult affiliates or content providers?

[david_sakh]

relax, no 1 is going to jump on your back. The fact is, most of us just don't particpate in this sort of thing.

[Blogmaster]

I have once tried adult and registered at adultrevenueservices.com
I don't believe in doing adult themed sites though ... just thought I give some input

[david_sakh]

adult sites are infamous for trojans and dailers and all kinds of BS, that's partly why we stay away...And what, are you going to produce your own content :D, or are you going to link farm, or are you going to write 'adult articles'.

[Blogmaster]

OK I need to say it again: I do not believe in doing adult ... I think it's wrong. Think again before you get into it. If you sleep with dogs, you get flees and you will not be happy:)

[fryman]

Yup, I have received several offers of people selling me their adult sites. Right now there is a guy that wants to sell me one that gets over 8,000 uniques per day. But I just can't convince myself of entering that world.... I have no idea of how to manage an adult site or how to get profit from it, and I really don't feel like learning it now. Maybe if I was a horny teenager... ;)

[jasonleexxx]

I think an adult site with out all kinds of junk... pop ups and trojans I think we be good.

[SEbasic]

Personally, I don't have any problem with doing adult stuff....

It's just a job afterall...

Anyway, It's a pretty tricky market to get involved with...
Some really strange rules for submitting to most of the TGP's and so on...

Trust me, adult will take up a lot more of your time trying to optimise it...

Getting links can be really hard, and one of the only ways I could think of building hundreds of targetted pages for the large number of searched terms, was cloaking - which makes it even harder to get links... (So I hear)

I would give it some serious thought before attempting to break in on that market - you might end up missing the sunlight ;)

[melfan]

if I would build adult site I will make it clean (no popups, activex and etc.). I myself dont go to site that have spawning popups, it so annoying! (thanks theres my Alt+F4 :)) Good membership fee for a good content is win win situation.

[Starbug]

I don't have any problems with this business..

The most important thing is not to enter the popup and active x laden side of the business. Find a niche and build your site as you would build a mainstream site.

Adult sites are not for everyone. The mistake most people make is thinking they can challenge the high-traffic sites, by copying their techniques (such as popup, popunders, diallers etc..)

Build your own niche within this area, and stick to it... don't forget that If you go down the picture or paysite route of the adult industry you will have a massive fight on your hands with hotlinkers and bandwidth theft..

Good luck, whichever niche you choose...

[kalius]

Thanks, I think I'm Worried about legal implications. Im going to research a little more on the niche and geed a good adult webhost and see what happens

[Blogmaster]

don't do it, Kalius.

[john_loch]

Before you do anything consider how you're going to monetize the site. At the end of day, you want someone else doing the work for you. Moreover, you don't want to be managing content.

This leaves you with a number of options, mainly affiliate content.

When all's said and done, it can be quite boring.. just another site believe it or not :)

Good luck ;)

Cheers,

JL

[neterslandreau]

It's time for me to chime in on this conversation.

I spent some time in the adult side of the 'net (Similiar thread (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=9835)) and I have to say that it is totally your call. But if you were my child seeking the same advice, I would share a couple of my experiences and hope that I raised a child wiser than their father.

[leah_jones24]

k- I own an adult website through another company called yourpaysite.com. They have an 800# for me to call anytime I need them. I haven't seen a profit yet, but my site has only been up for 3 days. I got 42 hits yesterday. it's a good business if you stay objective.

[Blogmaster]

I bet someone is making a profit, but it's not you. You sleep with dogs and fleas will follow ...

[neterslandreau]

k- I own an adult website through another company called yourpaysite.com. They have an 800# for me to call anytime I need them. I haven't seen a profit yet, but my site has only been up for 3 days. I got 42 hits yesterday. it's a good business if you stay objective.
I really wish I could agree with you about it being a good business, but it's BAD business.
But if anyone causes one of these little ones who believes in me to sin, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to drowned in the depths of the sea.
Run, Forrest, run!

[palespyder]

Legal implications, you get your content from Company X and there is one bit of illegal stuff, you can be held liable for the content. Not only this, but according to US law anyway I believe it's Section 1827, you must keep proof over age of all models on your site and be able to provide them to any authorities within 48 hours of the request. Like I stated before all it takes is one underage person on the site to get you arrested. Other implications can be a shady content seller who sells you the content then sues you for copyright violations.

If you are dead set on doing this my suggestion would be to start your own photography and only put up content you create, when you do a photoshot, make absolutely sure you get copies of birth certificates and drivers liscenses and also make sure the models sign the proper release forms.

As others have said though, You lie with dogs and the fleas are soon to follow, it's a rough business with ungodly amounts of competition.

Just be very very very very careful who you partner with, it can mean the difference between making money and sitting in prison for trafficing illegal materials.

[MattUK]

There's a lot of legal implications regarding the adult market at the moment, especailly in the US. I don't have a problem with adault sites at all, though I'd think twice about starting up a site that displays graphic images without a handy lawyer. If you still want to go down this route do some reading up on US Code 2257 rules and get some legal advice.

[SEbasic]

Legal implications, you get your content from Company X and there is one bit of illegal stuff, you can be held liable for the content. Not only this, but according to US law anyway I believe it's Section 1827, you must keep proof over age of all models on your site and be able to provide them to any authorities within 48 hours of the request. Like I stated before all it takes is one underage person on the site to get you arrested. Other implications can be a shady content seller who sells you the content then sues you for copyright violations.
Not if it's affiliate content.

Yuo still need to display a 1827 statement, but If it's from a reputable source, I'd be amazed if you EVER got in trouble for it.

[MattUK]

That is true, though I'd still consult a laweyer, especially if you're in one of the less 'liberal' states. If I was going to go down that road I'd make sure I was completely watertight.

[cafedelbalkan]

I'm interested in this subject also, what if you only run affiliate content, their promo galleries that they offer and so forth??? No original content whatsoever, just affiliates, what legal implications arise then. Also im in Vegas, so I don't know how much more liberal it gets. Thanks...

[goodgirl]

There are some really good adult resource sites and adult attorney resource sites.

Just make sure if you buy content, it is from a US provider. There are some shady oversea providers.

There are many good sponsors out there, but there are some bad ones as well. Research them, test them, and make sure your paperwork is in order. Recent law changes you have to have copies of models releases and ID in files incase the feds show up.

[cafedelbalkan]

I'm not planning to buy any content, all I was thinking of doing is posting link to the affiliate galleries. No galleries of my own. And posting user agreement, and 1187 i believe. No personal content or bought content.

good girl, do you have any website with legal content about adult online business.

[goodgirl]

Sure a few, I will PM them to you.

[dcanfield]

I previously set up a few TGP sites (Free Pictures). I was only converting about 1 3500. The hosting costs were eating me up from the visitors who just wanted free porn without ever upgrading. I then decided to try a company that offered "hosted galleries" on their web host but My conversion rate was crap because I was not offering anything new. It is possible to make money but I reccomend you find a good adult forum and do a lot of reading and research before jumping in.

[Blogmaster]

All I can say is this: if you have children, stay away from adult, it is an example you do NOT want to set.

[AzAkers]

Just so I understand this correctly - Site Tutor..you are against Adult sites...? You haven't been real clear here its hard to tell how you really feel about adult sites...:rolleyes: hehe - j/k its pretty obvious - and Bravo for saying so.


I have aquaintences who were involved in adult content websites for a while. Ugly ugly business. One friend has been decimated by what he once called 'just a job'. Porn isn't 'just a job' - don't fool yourself.

I'm not here to preach morality thats every persons own journy - but suffice it to say I think you should run from it - and run fast.

From a purely business standpoint I understand that few are lucritive, most end up being bandwidth and traffic heavy - conversion LITE. I'd like to say its because people are shy of being associated with pronography, but its more likely that these sites are synonymous with viruses, dialers etc (as mentioned before)

I'll leave my post at that.

[Blogmaster]

Great post, AZ.
Yes, I have tried to keep my opinions to myself but strongly believe it is a bad business to be a part of !

[Corey Bryant]

Legal implications, you get your content from Company X and there is one bit of illegal stuff, you can be held liable for the content. Not only this, but according to US law anyway I believe it's Section 1827, you must keep proof over age of all models on your site and be able to provide them to any authorities within 48 hours of the request. Like I stated before all it takes is one underage person on the site to get you arrested. Other implications can be a shady content seller who sells you the content then sues you for copyright violations.
It is actually U.S.C. Title 18, Section 2257 - which with the Bush adminstration is under scrutiny and it is possible that some changes might be made to this law. If that happens, the record keeping is going to be ferocious.

If you do need any type of legal advice, contact JD Obenberger - he is one of the best attorneys out there for the adult industry

As far as the content being sold to you, word travels fast, very fast, in that world. The more legitimate adult websites want to protect themselves. I will say this much - they are usually on the cutting edge of technology, trying to protect their content from others.

I only know people who do the adult websites and I attend some of the conferences to learn more, especially about the merchant account side of things and possibly how to help protect clients from chargebacks, etc.

[AzAkers]

Some silly little person gave me neg rep for my post. hah :)

What a :rolleyes: - no comment, just a neg rep. I thought my post was fairly decent, I even tried to keep from stepping on any toes. I never tried to slam porn users or sellers, so you don't need to defend your practices. What you do is your own business.

I'm so very sorry that I hurt your poor little feelings with my fairly reserved post.
Hard to believe that post caused you emotional distress. :rolleyes:

[Blogmaster]

I wouldn't worry about it. I have been through arguments over those issues and they get heated on both sides. it still is good to voice your opinion, state it and move on :)
You'll be surprised how many read it and silently agree ...

[Corey Bryant]

I did not even think you did AzAkers. Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to that industry. For example, I'll help them find a merchant account - but that is about it. Way too much time goes into the hosting - I just refer them over to a DC in Tempe that can handle their traffic, DDOS attacks, etc

[spanco]

lil new to this forum but very interested r u gentleman website buildes desighner etc or do u guys just chat about laws and such...:D

[MattUK]

lil new to this forum but very interested r u gentleman website buildes desighner etc or do u guys just chat about laws and such...:D

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