How to do well in Yahoo?

[dsouza]

Yahoo is somewhat of a mystery to me. I figured all my hard work with google would naturally pay off in Yahoo. It seems not.

While Google are sending me about 8,000 visitors a day, Yahoo is more like 200.

I have focused on providing a good service which is naturally acquiring quality backlinks. My pages are well structured with all the relevant tags and well thought out titles etc.

With Google most of my pages rank in the top 3 for the optimized keywords. Yahoo I'm often nowhere to be seen, hidden among a ton of new and spammy sites.

Is there anything I can do to bump up my stats for Yahoo?

[gerdywerdy]

i am having the same problem

google has indexed my page weeks ago but yahoo is nowhere to be seen yet

[wisdomtool]

I don't think you need to worry what you are experiencing seemed to be more or less proportional to the search engine market share of Google and Yahoo. I would guess, it would be better to keep concentrating on Google until Yahoo shows some promise.

[stevetalk]

yahoo prefer quality back links and try to make your title more than 65 character and you will get +ve response

cheers

[SEOVICE]

I have found the same thing with my websites. While I show up for keywords in google I seldom show up in yahoo or msn. So it seems better just to focus on Google and wait for the others to catch up.

[zee]

Same here. Forget about Yahoo! :s

[www.rapidvectorseo.com]

What i think each and every single visitor coming on my website through a business keyword search is important for me.
But i found for getting better rank on yahoo, some time your ranking may affected on google.
So follow proper optimization tatcis, if you get good results dan it's ok, and if not don't go in to d depth to achieve.

[Mustikos]

I have a customer, someone I have been working with since 1999. I wrote the software that creates our site in static .html pages as well, the rest of the site, and that which we use to add / edit items. The owner can add items to the site without me being here; I try to make my customers self-sufficient. We used to rank in the top 10 for 'antiques' in Yahoo as well as Google. Somewhere along the link, Yahoo seemed to blacklist us. We would even type our domain in Yahoo and they wouldn't list us. The name is back there, but not when you search for anything. I've spoken with people many, many times at Yahoo, last time about 2 weeks ago, and he gave me an address to email, but I get a reply and it says they cannot find the email address in their database and I should check my backyard email address, whatever that means.

Anyway, about Yahoo, I still have a customers / pages that come up number 1 for certain searches, which are pretty broad, so I know my 'page design forumula' works. At one point I thought Yahoo delisted us because some jerks steal items' images and information from our site and have been pasting them in every possible, free, online classifieds site. Actually when I spoke with this person at Yahoo last, he somewhat hinted at that, though he may have just been agreeing with me because I put that into his head. We're a small, 3 person company, the owners, husband and wife, and myself, the technician, and we cannot afford pay per click and it is sad how we're not in Yahoo anymore.

I would say, though, ultimately, that Yahoo is faltering. Their domains went from $9.95 / year renewal to $12.95 / year in March 2008 and then to $34.95 / year in July 2008. As well, their hosting packages, they've changed to bill 3 months in advance (for 1 I know of). They are trying to improve their bottom line and show profits so they don't lose their Google contract and they want to look better for possible purchase by Microsoft. As well, I registered a domain last July 17 and they charged me for renewal on July 1, 2008, which is over 2 weeks in advance. On top of that, a customer's hosting package with Yahoo, we were paying $19.95 per month on the 3rd of the month and this new package at $11.95 / mo. 3 months at a time looked good, so we upgraded. The sales person said they would pro-rate us, but they did not. They charged us $35 on July 21 (3 months X $11.95) and did not pro-rate us. Try calling their small business customer support and you will be on hold for an hour, it is ridiculous.

I'm not sure where Yahoo is going, but I wouldn't kill myself trying to optimize my site for Yahoo, as they could sell and their whole system could go to bad (worse). Who knows? I'd say, focus on other search engines / marketing aspects and wait to see what happens with Yapoo.

[ZacMc]

I'm having the same problem with yahoo search results. I'm in the top ten for many keywords in google but nowhere to be seen in yahoo..

[tomthornz]

I find Yahoo confusing (and MSN for that matter). I've had good rankings in Google for a while, and barely got any traffic from the other two. Then randomly they both jumped up and now I'm getting quite a bit of traffic from them. There wasn't anything major changed, just the usual work of adding content and hunting down links.

Tom.

[MTBuckler]

I just think that Yahoo's focus is entirely on Onpage optimisation. Google is the only SE which places a heavy emphasis on backlinks

[deccanbazaar.biz]

What i think each and every single visitor coming on my website through a business keyword search is important for me.
But i found for getting better rank on yahoo, some time your ranking may affected on google.
So follow proper optimization tatcis, if you get good results dan it's ok, and if not don't go in to d depth to achieve.

wrong words here

you need to work haerd until you gain what you are after.

[Rik9000]

I have seen that yahoo gives a lot of credit to blog post and blog comment links but never spam

[my_misyel]

I was surprised that when I checked my keywords, It ranked well in Yahoo.

[hss]

In what time frame did you reach current result - 8000 visitors/day form Google? Is the number of indexed pages the same in both search engines, or different?

[yinka]

I've been told to improve rankings with Yahoo, you should concentrate on on-page optimization, while Google puts more weight on off-page optimization (link building, social marketing, press release publishing, etc.) Yahoo differs and puts more weight on the on-page optimization (unique page titles, unique page description, page keyword density, internal link architecture, etc.). I hope this helps.

[MRniceGuy007]

massive links to you is what yahoo is all about. if you use siteexplorer by Yahoo you will see that the top ranks site all have above 20,000 inbound links

[ameran]

Yahoo loves active links. You should use more and more your keywords with an active link.

[S Copus]

Sounds like you need to cover everything to do well in both! Knowing this before writing a website will be handy so it can be optimized as much as possible for both to begin with. And then it seems SEO needs to be ongoing. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

[feeblminds]

Hi All,

Yahoo seems like somewhat of a mystery to everyone.

Has anybody found any good resources?

Thanks

[Michael smith]

think you must concentrate on every factor of SEO ....Do the best of all things such as on page optimization, get quality backlinks , unique content and much more ..... i think you must not wait for doing only one thing and must go for all .....because all that is a part of seo and cant get results on one.

[jssc]

One thing I've noticed about Yahoo (and it's difference with Google) is that they pay a LOT more attention to keywords in titles. If you're doing SEO and your title page doesn't have the necessary keywords that you're targeting there is still a possibility that you'd rank in Google but in Yahoo your chances are pretty slim.

So I guess it's also safe to say that one of the easy ways to get in Yahoo is to make sure your keywords are highly visible.

[Bbau01]

You never know really.

I was well indexed in google, placed high and failing wildly in Yahoo, like nowhere to be seen, then after a few months I suddenly appeared out of nowhere as the #1 answer for my keyword.

Thing being, even though I am #1 answer on yahoo, and like 3rd page on google, I still get far more traffic from that keyword[s] from google - and I mean like 20 times as much.

[Inisheer]

I don't understand the different search engine algorithms. I have some sites that rank fairly high in Google and don't appear anywhere in Yahoo. But then again I have some things that rank high in Yahoo and don't appear in Google. As long as I get traffic from one source or another I don't care too much so far. But I'm trying to work on getting high rankings in both search engines. ;)

[ecctao]

I have a keyword( led screen (http://www.leddisplayscreen.com) ) is the first in 10million results.
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=led+screen&vc=&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fp_ip=CN

[arnab]

apparently i do better with yahoo than google in a few of my sites

[dsouza]

thanks for all yours feedback

[dsouza]

I have a customer, someone I have been working with since 1999. I wrote the software that creates our site in static .html pages as well, the rest of the site, and that which we use to add / edit items. The owner can add items to the site without me being here; I try to make my customers self-sufficient. We used to rank in the top 10 for 'antiques' in Yahoo as well as Google. Somewhere along the link, Yahoo seemed to blacklist us. We would even type our domain in Yahoo and they wouldn't list us. The name is back there, but not when you search for anything. I've spoken with people many, many times at Yahoo, last time about 2 weeks ago, and he gave me an address to email, but I get a reply and it says they cannot find the email address in their database and I should check my backyard email address, whatever that means.

Anyway, about Yahoo, I still have a customers / pages that come up number 1 for certain searches, which are pretty broad, so I know my 'page design forumula' works. At one point I thought Yahoo delisted us because some jerks steal items' images and information from our site and have been pasting them in every possible, free, online classifieds site. Actually when I spoke with this person at Yahoo last, he somewhat hinted at that, though he may have just been agreeing with me because I put that into his head. We're a small, 3 person company, the owners, husband and wife, and myself, the technician, and we cannot afford pay per click and it is sad how we're not in Yahoo anymore.

I would say, though, ultimately, that Yahoo is faltering. Their domains went from $9.95 / year renewal to $12.95 / year in March 2008 and then to $34.95 / year in July 2008. As well, their hosting packages, they've changed to bill 3 months in advance (for 1 I know of). They are trying to improve their bottom line and show profits so they don't lose their Google contract and they want to look better for possible purchase by Microsoft. As well, I registered a domain last July 17 and they charged me for renewal on July 1, 2008, which is over 2 weeks in advance. On top of that, a customer's hosting package with Yahoo, we were paying $19.95 per month on the 3rd of the month and this new package at $11.95 / mo. 3 months at a time looked good, so we upgraded. The sales person said they would pro-rate us, but they did not. They charged us $35 on July 21 (3 months X $11.95) and did not pro-rate us. Try calling their small business customer support and you will be on hold for an hour, it is ridiculous.

I'm not sure where Yahoo is going, but I wouldn't kill myself trying to optimize my site for Yahoo, as they could sell and their whole system could go to bad (worse). Who knows? I'd say, focus on other search engines / marketing aspects and wait to see what happens with Yapoo.


thanks for explaining it

[iecsp]

I also want to know some good ways.

[VictorBush]

Can any one suggest a good solution to rank good in yahoo?All are just telling something less important.Please be precise and actual.

[infotech rules]

I have written so many articles on Eve, Everquest, FFXI and WOW Accounts. They appear in top 5 results every time. No matter with what keywrods you search them. The reason why such efficiency is because of consistency and maximum keywords use. I am sure you will get what you have in mind. Every time the search results will put up your blog or web site in top results, be it on yahoo or google search engines.

[lcwadminbj]

I just do not understand search engines in general.
I am no SEO expert yet when I recently launched a new site it took only 12 days to hit Nr 1 in Yahoo and position 7 on page one of google for my keywords. and that is with a natural search (in other words not enclosing the keywords in inverted comma's)

I recently set up a subdomain to host a new tool I have developed and it is nowhere to be found on Yahoo, and on google it showed up after 5 hours in position 2 on page one, the next day it completely vanished from google and is still no where to be found.

if anyone has suggestions feel free to contribute.

[lcwadminbj]

I just do not understand search engines in general.
I am no SEO expert yet when I recently launched a new site it took only 12 days to hit Nr 1 in Yahoo and position 7 on page one of google for my keywords. and that is with a natural search (in other words not enclosing the keywords in inverted comma's)

I recently set up a subdomain to host a new tool I have developed and it is nowhere to be found on Yahoo, and on google it showed up after 5 hours in position 2 on page one, the next day it completely vanished from google and is still no where to be found.

if anyone has suggestions feel free to contribute.


addendum 15 Oct 2009

About 4 hours after making this post yesterday, while testing a tool suggeted in another thread, I found that the new subdomain was back at position 5 on page 1 of google. During my daily meeting with my partner about 7 hours later I passed on the good news and when we looked again it was woooooooooohoooooooo as we are nr 1.

Unfortunatly we are still no where to be found in Yahoo or Bing yet.

[christyzen]

Yeah. It is little bit difficult promotion work on yahoo compare with google. You need have quality content with enough keywords.

[dsouza]

I just do not understand search engines in general.
I am no SEO expert yet when I recently launched a new site it took only 12 days to hit Nr 1 in Yahoo and position 7 on page one of google for my keywords. and that is with a natural search (in other words not enclosing the keywords in inverted comma's)

I recently set up a subdomain to host a new tool I have developed and it is nowhere to be found on Yahoo, and on google it showed up after 5 hours in position 2 on page one, the next day it completely vanished from google and is still no where to be found.

if anyone has suggestions feel free to contribute.



hello sir
i am desperately want to know more about your project, so if u don't have any issue can u plz explain.

[infotech rules]

You might not have focused upon content and keywords. The real game to become one of top positions in either google or yahoo you have to focus on keywords usage and content. All other things follow later on..

[menj1980]

In seo world we assume that if u get more quality back links you can also get more traffic, So go for quality links definitely u do well in every search engine. * To get well ranked in yahoo do a little bit of backlinks work, but smartly, other wise.....

[uptraffic]

I analyze that back links are more important in yahoo & bing.

[franzflip]

To be honest it's easy to get a good page rank in yahoo. In here I'm page 1 while in Google im at page 2.

[marrya]

yahoo need more links then google

[Pokerfreak]

I analyze that back links are more important in yahoo & bing.

i don`t thing that backlinks are so important at yahoo

i rank on 2nd place for "no desposit poker bonus" with a new site that have 0 backlinks

having the keywords in your url must be the most important thing there

[kitakaze99]

I heard that :
Google said: "China" and "china" are same
Yahoo said: "China" is better than "china"

[lcwadminbj]

hello sir
i am desperately want to know more about your project, so if u don't have any issue can u plz explain.

Check posting rules please - you will find if I respond to your request I would get a black mark and at least a 7 day ban.
The rules also explain how to get more information from someone.

[dsouza]

Hi All,

Yahoo seems like somewhat of a mystery to everyone.

Has anybody found any good resources?

Thanks


if somebody get that kindly share it with us also

[primatist]

well,

to tell you the truth, all you need for yahoo are links. and a lot of them. the quality isnt really important

[abhishekseo]

Hey dsouza plz tell me what are u doing per day process to get 8000 visitor?

[janspter43]

Yahoo and Google has separate algorithm and they require attention and optimizing according to their algorithm.

[seosg.info]

become a yahoo answer active user and keep answering useful question, occasionally share your site url at the source and your site will get the power of yahoo directory and serps at yahoo increase by 100 percent, I am experiencing this now!

[sliknik99]

Yahoo is somewhat of a mystery to me. I figured all my hard work with google would naturally pay off in Yahoo. It seems not.

With Google most of my pages rank in the top 3 for the optimized keywords. Yahoo I'm often nowhere to be seen, hidden among a ton of new and spammy sites.

Is there anything I can do to bump up my stats for Yahoo?

I purchased a domain & hosting for a website I created a couple years ago & I noticed that I was ranking very high on Yahoo search engine for a number of keywords but I was nowhere to be seen on Google for those same keywords.

Maybe they give preferential treatment to "their own"?