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General Grant
Feb 5th 2005, 8:23 pm
My site is fairly new, and started with a PR3, it just went down to a 2.

Is this the sandbox effect I've read about?

If so, it SUCKS!
disgust
Feb 5th 2005, 8:29 pm
no, it isn't.

PR doesn't depend on the sandbox at all.
petertdavis
Feb 5th 2005, 8:40 pm
That your toolbar PageRank went from 3 to 2 is of very little relevance. More important is how you're ranking for keywords. Are your rankings going down too?
ResaleBroker
Feb 5th 2005, 8:40 pm
My site is fairly new, and started with a PR3, it just went down to a 2.

Is this the sandbox effect I've read about?No, I don't believe so. With that said, I'm wondering if this latest update didn't include the devaluing of certain links?

For instance, if you had a given number of PR5 links that pointed to your site and all of a sudden Google devalued those links to a PR3 then the PR that transferred from those links to your site would also be lower.

Hmmm.
General Grant
Feb 5th 2005, 9:04 pm
That your toolbar PageRank went from 3 to 2 is of very little relevance. More important is how you're ranking for keywords. Are your rankings going down too?
Actually, I'm just starting to show in the serp's.

Maybe I just worry about PR too much.
metrics
Feb 6th 2005, 5:31 am
I recently read that Google says that PR (as shown on the Google bar) is for entertainment purposes only. I can't remember exactly where I read it but it makes sense to me.
Big Bill
Feb 6th 2005, 12:24 pm
Much of what Google says is for amusement. Theirs.

BB
dfsweb
Feb 6th 2005, 7:13 pm
I recently read that Google says that PR (as shown on the Google bar) is for entertainment purposes only. I can't remember exactly where I read it but it makes sense to me.

Toolbar PR isn't important 'cos it lags behind the real PR by a couple of months in any case.
wendydettmer
Feb 6th 2005, 9:32 pm
Toolbar PR isn't important 'cos it lags behind the real PR by a couple of months in any case.


so how would one go about finding the 'real' PR of their site?
dfsweb
Feb 6th 2005, 10:19 pm
so how would one go about finding the 'real' PR of their site?

That's the entire point. You can't!!

Google mantains two versions (or more, perhaps) of the PR. The PR that is used for calculating SERPs is not the same as the PR that is displayed on the toolbar. Evidence for this can be found in the fact that nobody sees big movements when the toolbar PR is updated. Only the guys at Google could tell you what your real PR is. Or, you can wait until the next toolbar update to find out.
wendydettmer
Feb 7th 2005, 7:30 am
That's the entire point. You can't!!

Google mantains two versions (or more, perhaps) of the PR. The PR that is used for calculating SERPs is not the same as the PR that is displayed on the toolbar. Evidence for this can be found in the fact that nobody sees big movements when the toolbar PR is updated. Only the guys at Google could tell you what your real PR is. Or, you can wait until the next toolbar update to find out.


I wish i could come up with something more witty to say, but all i can think of is that bites
Chrissicom
Feb 7th 2005, 9:21 am
PR isn't everything because it depends way too much on backlinks. Some of my competitors have a PR 5 like me for the German version of my site, although my site has way fewer backlinks but it offers fresh content. My two main competitors had like 3 or 4 updates in the same amount of years :p and Google lists them still #1 and #2 since they are just the oldest websites still around about the topic