googlebot spider yes.. but indexed site No.

[www.techdo.com]

Hello

I have seen 4 or 5 days ago the msnbot and the googlebot spiders for the first time on my new website.

In search.msn i can find my site but in google if i write site:www.techdo.com it can't find NO results

is it normal ?

thank you.

[digitalpoint]

Yes, it's normal for new sites.

[accessionuk]

Getting links from a PR5 (or near) page should help to speed up the indexing process as well as the frequency of future spidering.

[dejaone]

external links from a few sites will help.

[mxlabs]

google usually takes MUCH longer than msn&yahoo to be included if you dont have powerful backlinks, don't sweat on it.

[ziandra]

google usually takes MUCH longer than msn&yahoo to be included if you dont have powerful backlinks, don't sweat on it.
Are you sure?

I just did a little test. Dotster gave me the .info version of one of my domain for free, probably in hopes that I would renew it when it expires. So, I created a dummy page with links to my real domains. I created the page on 3-feb-2005 at around 16:00 and referenced it in my blog on my.opera.com. Google spidered it at 21:58 according to my web logs. It is in the directory now.

I did not submit it to google. I merely added it to my links on the free "my.opera" blog. The domain has been parked for several months since dotster gave it to me and has never been promoted.

I had a theory that the rumors of "never use submit a page" were true and I am pretty sure this confirms it. I used "submit a page" to get a different site in google a month ago and it took almost a week to get listed. That site even had real content. Simply referenceing a dummy link page in an opera blog got it listed in under six hours.

Go figure.

[roadies]

I just did a little test. Dotster gave me the .info version of one of my domain for free, probably in hopes that I would renew it when it expires. So, I created a dummy page with links to my real domains. I created the page on 3-feb-2005 at around 16:00 and referenced it in my blog on my.opera.com. Google spidered it at 21:58 according to my web logs. It is in the directory now.

yes, but how many pages are in the index and what search term did you use to find it in the index? I've seen google give the first result to an empty/parked domain that matched the searched for keyterm, with and without descriptions in the serps.

[relaxzoolander]

access...
i like your avatar.

You know when fluoridation first began?
I... no, no. I don't, Jack.
Nineteen hundred and forty-six.
Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake.
How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh?
It's incredibly obvious, isn't it?
A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids
without the knowledge of the individual.
Certainly without any choice.
That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

i just watched 'being there' last night.

:)

[ziandra]

yes, but how many pages are in the index and what search term did you use to find it in the index? I've seen google give the first result to an empty/parked domain that matched the searched for keyterm, with and without descriptions in the serps.
The entire site (one whole page) is in the index. I did NO SEO on the page. No metas. No nothing.

The supprizing thing is it came back as #1 for the only thing resembling a keyword on the page, my user name, #2 going to my zeal profile and #3 to my blog. All three being recent additions. If the "rocket to the top and plumet out of sight" theory is true then these three sites should vanish from the ratings over the next week or two.

I did the test to see how long it took google to find and index my site and to see if it got inserted faster by simply adding a link to a free blog or by using google's add-url. I was not performing an extensive SEO test.

I would say that from the limited sample set of 1 for each method, 6 hours to get inserted by linking in a free blog vs 3 or 4 days by using add url is not a sufficient sample to be statistically significant. It is, however, interesting.

[www.techdo.com]

After 1 month..
nothing changed :(

not indexed by Google
indexed with 25 backlinks in Yahoo and
indexed with 121 backlinks in MSN

[www.techdo.com]

i see googlebot every day but my site is still not indexed.

i have sent an email to help@google.com to ask if they banned my website (hoping for an answer)

[yfs1]

http://www.techdo.com

There, now it will be indexed

:D

[www.techdo.com]

mmmm

This page have PR 1, while i have already some backlinks from PR 2 and 3 without success

[www.techdo.com]

I wrote this mail to a SEO Service:

> How much does it costs to be included within 2 weeks
> (i don't care about positioning at the moment, just
> let me know the price for a google index inclusion)
>
> Thank you.
> DARIO

This is what they answered me.
What do you think about ?

> For $50 I can have you in google within 3 days max.
>
> Let me know.

[yfs1]

THey are just going to link to you off of either a big site or a popular forum like this one. Why not just buy the links yourself and cut out the middleman?

If the link I posted from here plus your sig doesn't get you listed, perhaps your url was banned (either before or after you took ownership)

If thats the case they won't be able to deliver for $50

[www.techdo.com]

THey are just going to link to you off of either a big site or a popular forum like this one. Why not just buy the links yourself and cut out the middleman?

If the link I posted from here plus your sig doesn't get you listed, perhaps your url was banned (either before or after you took ownership)

If thats the case they won't be able to deliver for $50

Thank you.

i also think that that domain is banned from Google (but i don't understand why)
If they agree i would offer to pay them 25$ now and 25$ when (and if) work is done.

If they accept is not so bad , because a good link can't cost less than 25$.
Have you other advices ?

[yfs1]

How long have you owned it? Archive.org shows a cache from Sept 2001

[www.techdo.com]

i didn't know that site, thank you.

I bought the domain on Dec-2004

[yfs1]

Archive.org does exactly what it says on the tin. It keeps an archive of different sites.

According to them techdo.com was indexed back in 2001 with just an under construction page for a few years, then just a blank page it seems for quite a while.

Then it had some kind of redirect to an ad.

It seems strange anyway

[www.techdo.com]

So
Do you suggest other useful ways to spend these 50$ ?

[T0PS3O]

My new site got spidered and FULLY indexed in both G and MSN in 48 hours. Ranks decent for MSN (20-50) for 2 dozen phrases. Ranks in G only for obscure phrases.

Yahoo doesn't have it in it's index.

[LiGhTen]

Getting links from a PR5 (or near) page should help to speed up the indexing process as well as the frequency of future spidering.
Are you sure about this? I know i had to wait 3 month.

[yfs1]

Are you sure about this? I know i had to wait 3 month.

There is no arbitrary waiting period. I routinely get new sites indexed within 72 hours through various forum sigs and mid PR sites.

The more links (or even more important) the faster you will get indexed initially and the deeper the bot will go and index

[spyboy]

I am completely new to this so I need to start with the very basics of backlinking. Amy suggestions would be appreciated.

[YoungCoder]

New sites beware of the sandbox :)

[justtara]

I have noticed that google indexes my blog a lot faster than my actual sites. I'm sure that has to do with me sending out a bunch of pings when I updated my blog though.

I have a colleage who has had her site up for months and she is in MSN and Yahoo but only comes up in google when she types in part her domain name. It took her quite a while to even get that to come up in google. I keep telling her she needs to get more back links to actually come up in google.

I wonder if google just doesn't like her site though.

[mmd2005]

get more link to your sites is very helpful.

[www.techdo.com]

maybe there is no possibility for me to be included in Google :(


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"Hello Sir,
the problem is that your website is banned for using...."black tehniquies' in SEO.

regards,
***************** "

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How can you be sure of this ? is There a way to discover if a domain is banned before to buy it ?
i bought the domain in December 2004 and not done SEO on that domain yet.

Thank you

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Hi Sir,
You can verify if is banned, but you can't know why exactly is banned, but the reason why a website is banned is because was used tricky tehniques.

regards, ***************

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So there is no way to include it in Google ?

Thank you

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Unfortunatly.....yes.

What can I do for you is to improve your link popularity and on-page optimisation, if you are interested.


Kind regards, **************

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[www.techdo.com]

And then another message: :)

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Google rechecks all banned websites after a fixed period of time and if they have removed the 'black hat' trick, the site is subsequently indexed. Therefore, if you've removed the trick and you already have inbound links, then your website should be 'unbanned' soon enough. Best thing to do at this point would be to begin a link building project so that google gets more and more opportunities to see your website, and while that's happening, have the SEO clean up the website.

Best of luck

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[inverse]

yea prety normal for a new site

[www.techdo.com]

i'm still out of google index

[ServerUnion]

sometimes it will take many months for google. I have a site that is #1 in msn for the top5 keywords, yet google has little to no interest. Just takes time, sometimes many months...


Are you saying you site is not indexed using the "site:" command to check, or that you are not showing in the search results for keywords that you are trying?

[www.techdo.com]

sometimes it will take many months for google. I have a site that is #1 in msn for the top5 keywords, yet google has little to no interest. Just takes time, sometimes many months...


Are you saying you site is not indexed using the "site:" command to check, or that you are not showing in the search results for keywords that you are trying?

site: is not showing any page from the website

[www.techdo.com]

Correct me if i'm wrong.. but

I'm in !! :) :)


how can i check my PR and backlinks with Google ?

thank you

[rubeina]

If you have google toolbar you'll get your PR displayed, it's disabled when you have just installed the toolbar, you just have to enable it in options

[rubeina]

I have noticed that google indexes my blog a lot faster than my actual sites.
If your blog is on blogger sure it's gonna be listed faster, blogger is for google! :D and blogs usually have feeds, don't know much about these but I heard they help in ranking etc :confused: can anybody explain
I wonder if google just doesn't like her site though. Don't worry her website probably gonna be listed soon, google always takes much time