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CommonDavid
Jun 10th 2008, 12:22 pm
Is anyone an authority on the subject?

I always thought that if you had duplicate content on your site, your pages with dup content got banished to the supplemental listings. I've never heard of a duplicate content PENALTY, thereby penalizing your whole site for dup content?

Am I correct fine sirs and madams? ;)

kewlchat
Jun 10th 2008, 12:24 pm
some say it is no such thing but im sure that it is but i dont think anyone REALY knows how it works for sure.

CommonDavid
Jun 10th 2008, 12:26 pm
I just recently found a ton of sites that get crazy traffic... from duplicating content and story headlines. It can't be that bad if these sites are rocking with traffic???

IEmailer.com
Jun 10th 2008, 2:04 pm
Your website wont get a penalty for duplicate content unless you are sky scraping the whole site as it is!
Then simply it's just a filter if it's really a duplicated content of the other page.

the-hood
Jun 10th 2008, 2:40 pm
interesting subject... most of the so called marketing and seo "authorities" now put a lots of emphesis on avoiding duplicate content on the websites and blogs... from Google's prospective it makes sense too.. they don't want to serve the same content over and over.... will keep an eye on .. where Google is heading in this direction :-)

mhmdkhamis
Jun 10th 2008, 2:56 pm
i yhink it filter

davidtl99
Jun 10th 2008, 5:58 pm
It depends who google think the content originated from. If your site is older and has more authority than the site your scraping, google could give a crap about the other site.

StudioWorks
Jun 11th 2008, 12:11 am
The duplicate content thing is an issue debated for so long now. I still havent seen any real proof that Google will penalize you for duplicate content. I see quite a lot of sites ( indeed, old sites ) with duplicate content that are going very very veyr well.

What could be the explication for that ?

powerseo
Jun 11th 2008, 1:36 am
if duplicate content is an issue DP also have this problem
again and again same thread :D

Divisive Cottonwood
Jun 11th 2008, 1:53 am
What with tagging, duplicate content is a regular occurrence on the net these days, but as a rule I always try to avoid it...

tinycoin
Jun 11th 2008, 2:09 am
duplicated content or clone websites??
how could we decide which site copy content from others?
We are living in internet, dynamic and virtual world.
Who could control it?? Google?
lol, never....

tell me which sites were banned by doing it!!!

magoo
Jun 11th 2008, 2:35 am
Isn't the whole concept of article marketing based on sites creating duplicate content? if it was penalised then article marketing wouldn't be effective at improving your serps you would think.

tgx874sah
Jun 11th 2008, 2:43 am
According to the latest blog post from the officiel google webmasters blog, you got filtred in the SE result, no penality

WebSolutions86
Jun 11th 2008, 2:47 am
Your webpage won't rank if its a 100% copy of some other webpage which is much older.
Don't copy, be original!

aikaz
Jun 11th 2008, 2:53 am
If I am a Google then I will drop the pagerank the duplicate content website lower rather than it is banned and also how much the portion (in percentage) of duplicate contents on that website.

3walim
Jun 11th 2008, 3:15 am
don’t be worry about it
for example take bookmark sites= as digg he one of the biggest duplicate content
and what google do with him? they indexed his page over your site

CommonDavid
Jun 11th 2008, 6:53 am
Isn't the whole concept of article marketing based on sites creating duplicate content? if it was penalised then article marketing wouldn't be effective at improving your serps you would think.

Great point, that's actually where this topic originated from in my mind ;)

InfoSmith
Jun 11th 2008, 3:13 pm
Google has BIG algorithm to FILTER similar content.....

snowbird
Jun 11th 2008, 3:21 pm
Google is pretty good at identifying and eliminating duplicate content from appearing towards the top of the search results. It's far from perfect, but normally is isolated to specific pages or the directory (/) that the duplicate content appears in. Even scraper sites normally get PR and rank well for their own name.

It's really not a duplicate "penalty" so to speak. Duplicate content just gets pushed to the back of the SERPS or not indexed. It does not affect the rankings of unique pages within a site.

ckgni
Jun 11th 2008, 4:38 pm
It is not a penalty, it is an automatic filter.

Duplicate content some times is legal and there is no reason for penalty. Examples:
- site mirrors (for instance PHP manual and Linux Documentation Project have lots of mirrors)
- sites publishing press releases that are already published to some companies official web sites
- files hosted on multiple servers to balance traffic
- webmasters creating mirrors of their sites on multiple domains/subdomains or servers
- some authors publishing their articles on multiple article directories or forums
Pages from the above examples will be filtered and only a few of them will appear in high SERPS. The rest go to the supplementary results. This is done for the users convenience (noone wants to see in the first 5 pages of Google search exactly the same content, but from different subdomains mirror1.site.net, mirror2.site.net etc.)

You may have your site manually penalized for web spamming if you copy content from other sites without a backlink to the original source and then Google receives complains by the author for stolen content.

valternascimento
Jun 12th 2008, 5:39 pm
its a filter

victorqd
Jun 12th 2008, 11:33 pm
Nice discussion,this made some things clear out of my mind.
What about the contents that people out there are making by fetching and mixing feeds from different blogs.
I see more than 5 times the feed counts than the visitors in my everyday stats.

deleted
Jun 13th 2008, 5:44 am
I think feeds are legitimate!Correct me if I'm wrong!

cms-guy
Jun 13th 2008, 5:46 am
makes it very hard for all those lyrics sites, doesn't it?!

James Dean Nash
Jun 13th 2008, 2:23 pm
Just look around duplicate content is everywhere.......syndication is power!!........so what filter, what penalty...Duplicate content ranks differently for every site that the content is on.....Some sites have high trust, others low trust and some no trust....hence different rankings for different keywords...If your page has more trust in the search engines than the other guy then you'll rank higher duplicate content or not..

puzzle
Jun 15th 2008, 10:04 am
Refer the official guide here:

What does Google do about it?
During our crawling and when serving search results, we try hard to index and show pages with distinct information. This filtering means, for instance, that if your site has articles in "regular" and "printer" versions and neither set is blocked in robots.txt or via a noindex meta tag, we'll choose one version to list. In the rare cases in which we perceive that duplicate content may be shown with intent to manipulate our rankings and deceive our users, we'll also make appropriate adjustments in the indexing and ranking of the sites involved. However, we prefer to focus on filtering rather than ranking adjustments ... so in the vast majority of cases, the worst thing that'll befall webmasters is to see the "less desired" version of a page shown in our index.

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogspot.com/2006/12/deftly-dealing-with-duplicate-content.html

uttoransen
Jun 15th 2008, 10:21 am
Just look around duplicate content is everywhere.......syndication is power!!........so what filter, what penalty...Duplicate content ranks differently for every site that the content is on.....Some sites have high trust, others low trust and some no trust....hence different rankings for different keywords...If your page has more trust in the search engines than the other guy then you'll rank higher duplicate content or not..

top answer! the ranking of the content actually depends on the over all authority of the website!! if you post duplicate content on a site that has good authority then it will still rank better than the original article on a less authority website! example - ezinearticles ;)

mprssr
Jun 15th 2008, 11:05 am
There is such thing, just dont do it. Write your own content.

CommonDavid
Jun 16th 2008, 7:21 am
Wow, this thread has produced some great discussion that I've found very helpful. I think a lot of of people could take a lot away from this thread as an overall source on the subject ;)

James Dean Nash
Jun 16th 2008, 6:43 pm
top answer! the ranking of the content actually depends on the over all authority of the website!! if you post duplicate content on a site that has good authority then it will still rank better than the original article on a less authority website! example - ezinearticles ;)

Yep......R U an Ezinearticles lover too?....

If you aren't using Ezinearticles then you ain't livin'!.... or just don't want to get buttloads of traffic and resources and make some serious money....Ezinearticles and Google really changed my life....So go publish them articles and get everyone to publish your content....and point back to the source of the "original content"

This is why Google encourages others to link back to the original source of the content that they publish...and also in Ezinearticles too, the publishers are "required" to point back to the source....this way you will gain more link juice,authority and hopefully in a perfect world you will outrank the others using your content..

newbee_seo
Jun 17th 2008, 12:33 am
In my case its opposite... the content of my site has been copied by some other site and I have been penalized....

please help me....

datafiedbpo
Jun 17th 2008, 6:01 am
yes duplicate content is the big prob for google so must make content for users not for search engine.

fr@nc!z
Jun 17th 2008, 9:14 am
As ar as i know, duplicate content wouldn't send your website into penalty; but they will be filter.

falguni1
Jun 19th 2008, 8:17 am
forums dont have duplicate content penalty, the content is generated by users not the forum owner.

valternascimento
Jul 6th 2008, 5:06 am
I think its a penalty. My site dropped to page 5