Will this help in Yahoo?

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NewComputer

May 31st 2004, 5:53 pm

Recently, one of our websites was dropped from Yahoo! in an extreme fashion. We have not enquired, we just assumed it was due to similar content as 2 of the 3 sites have identical content. Now, we learned that all three of these sites were sharing the same IP. We have since rectified that situation. Will that help in Yahoo!? Will they bring us back. We noticed today that if you search one of our direct domains (eg. www.domain.com) that we jumped from 16 total urls to around 38,000. A nice jump, but are they still pinning us at the bottom of our key searches? What is the best way to find out?

digitalpoint

May 31st 2004, 6:06 pm

Well, I doubt Yahoo will disclose how they determine rankings. As soon as search engines start telling people how to rank better/worse, the algorithms become useless.

I wouldn't *think* Yahoo would care about the IP address, but then again, they seem to do some other things very stupidly, so who knows.

NewComputer

May 31st 2004, 6:33 pm

Haha, that was EXACTLY the answer I thought I was going to get. I guess no one knows for sure. I thought maybe there was a Yahoo! insider willing to share. I will keep researching and tinkering. It could have been just an updating of the database(s), but there were sure a lot of people complaining.

dsr771

May 31st 2004, 7:06 pm

I have several sites running on the same IP address. Name based hosting (single IP) is pushed hard by ARIN to hosting companies which have to prove a need for more IPs. I wouldn't think google would deny sites based on IP address. btw, my sites where in the top 10 rankings for about 6 months, then fell off in march, and now are slowly moving back up with the addition of more backlinks. I assume the falloff was due to google algo change. My sites have different topics and content.

I hope someone will correct me if I am wrong about the IP address thing with googe.

Jay

Jun 1st 2004, 6:43 am

I myself have Several Sites also running on same IP Address, and all are listed with Yahoo! All in pretty good rankings too, i might add.

NewComputer

Jun 1st 2004, 6:53 am

Would any of them be classified as having duplicate content under seperate domains?

disgust

Jun 4th 2004, 11:42 am

why did you have multiple domains with the same content anyway? just seems like an unnecesary risk to me

T0PS3O

Jun 4th 2004, 12:13 pm

Slightly on, yet off-topic: After being to an extent satisfied with Google results, I am looking into paid submission in the Y directory. We have half a dozen sites and I don't want to pay 6 x £199 right away. If I pay for one site which has loads of links to the others without overdoing it, would there be the chance Yahoo might spider the other 5 more often than it does now for Y SERPs?

disgust

Jun 4th 2004, 12:19 pm

if you just want it spidered, you don't need to do the paid inclusion, really.

if sites link to you- any sites that are indexed, you'll get in the serps to some extent.

the paid inclusion is for the directory.

digitalpoint

Jun 4th 2004, 12:26 pm

Agreed, I don't pay for inclusion in Yahoo, and www.digitalpoint.com has 62,800 pages (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site%3Awww.digitalpoint.com&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=fp-pull-web-t&dups=1) in the Yahoo index, and this forum has another 579 (http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=site%3Aforums.digitalpoint.com&ei=ISO-8859-1&n=20&fl=0&xargs=0&pstart=1&fr=fp-pull-web-t&dups=1) (which should grow since the forum is pretty new).

T0PS3O

Jun 4th 2004, 12:36 pm

I see... Guess I'm just disappointed with the traffic from Yahoo then. it's only about 3% compared to 90+ from G with lots of top rankings.

Looking into Overture Self Service (UK) . Might try and see how the ROI compares to AdWords. Yahoo claims it to be higher. Minimum rate is higher at 10p vs 4p with AdWords. Have to sus it out tomorrow, going for beers now. Thnx!

North Carolina SEO

Jun 5th 2004, 4:16 am