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anthonycea
Jan 20th 2005, 5:08 pm
ABC has a special on tonight at 10:00PM eastern, 9 central on how the government creates databases on all of us.

Everything you write, your history, credit and employment profile, where you live and travel.

The show will focus on how new technology is used to build profiles on all of us. Don't miss it and post your comments right here.

If they want to know anything about us they should just read Digital Point because most of us have already spilled the beans on ourselves here and in blogs linked.

Hell I know what kind of underwear VS is wearing and how many boyfriends she has and that her fish of 9 years just died.

How do I know all this? I will never tell :p :p :D

david_sakh
Jan 20th 2005, 5:26 pm
I'll just emotispam my feelings on this, in order: :eek: :mad: :( : ) :(

anthonycea
Jan 20th 2005, 5:50 pm
This is important as next you will find that identification (DNA microchips) will be used as well as database profiles on all individuals.

Be sure to watch this show tonight on ABC, 10PM eastern, 9pm central folks.

anthonycea
Jan 20th 2005, 7:14 pm
Government data mining story coming up RIGHT NOW on ABC after the commercial break, don't miss this story folks.

david_sakh
Jan 20th 2005, 7:32 pm
damn - I get free cable here but I've never gone out and bought the $4 cable that goes to the wall. Life's wierd without TV, but at least the telescreen lens doesn't work if it's off. :D

Mia
Jan 20th 2005, 7:43 pm
This is important as next you will find that identification (DNA microchips) will be used as well as database profiles on all individuals.

Be sure to watch this show tonight on ABC, 10PM eastern, 9pm central folks.

No offense man, but give it a rest.. The conspiracy theory thing is getting old. Stop being so paranoid... Enjoy life...

anthonycea
Jan 20th 2005, 7:47 pm
Great advice, I will do it just for you Mia :p

I don't know what I would do without you man :D

Can you send a duplicate post to Bush and Cheney now!!!

Mia
Jan 20th 2005, 8:00 pm
Wonderful.. Anyway, I assume you know I am just messing with you :)

Anyway, this type of stuff has been around for years.. Not much different now.. Hell during the Clintonian 90's if you were at a sporting event, no matter how small, your picture is in a DB somewhere. All you need is a picture of an individual to do an eye proximatey scan for identification.. The best of the best in casino ops in Vegas use this stuff to detect repeat cheats.

Cool technology if you ask me. Anyway, I always go by the premise "if I have not done anything wrong, what do I have to worry about?"

david_sakh
Jan 20th 2005, 8:02 pm
No offense man, but give it a rest.. The conspiracy theory thing is getting old. Stop being so paranoid... Enjoy life...

You'd be surprised how much governments can change in the span of a few decades. One of the most important lessons in life is not to ignore the power of change nor the BS that can bring it about. :)

I wonder if Patriot Act 3.0 will have a Civil Protection MicroProcessor clause. :D

uca
Jan 20th 2005, 8:23 pm
I have nothing to hide to any government.
I hope they get info of everyone, including those that really do have something to hide!

I wouldn't be comfortable to find out that private institutions and people know too much about me, but never mind the governments! :)

david_sakh
Jan 20th 2005, 8:29 pm
I have nothing to hide to any government.
I hope they get info of everyone, including those that really do have something to hide!

I wouldn't be comfortable to find out that private institutions and people know too much about me, but never mind the governments! :)

The problem here lies in that the definition of something to hide changes every year as the balance of power shifts. Something to hide can mean:

"suicidal/cultist/terrorist/rapist/spy/arsonist"

or

"refuses to speak newspeak/shows human feelings/does not share wife with local commissar/refused to participate in spontaneous demonstration/worships counter-progress diety."

For both sets of infractions, depending on who is in power, the consequences
can be the same. Once you give an entity too much power, it's like a license to do whatever the hell it wants in darker times.

Dominic
Jan 20th 2005, 8:55 pm
Australia's version of the CIA [sounds pathetic already] (ASIO) has a file on me and my flatmate. I got one when my uncle took a new job in the army and my flatmate got one when he did some work on a US army base in australia. I feel sorry for the poor bugger that has to sift through such boring lives as ours and check us out. The most exciting thing in our files would be that we both live at the same address. Woopdido.

david_sakh
Jan 20th 2005, 9:46 pm
Australia's version of the CIA [sounds pathetic already] (ASIO) has a file on me and my flatmate. I got one when my uncle took a new job in the army and my flatmate got one when he did some work on a US army base in australia. I feel sorry for the poor bugger that has to sift through such boring lives as ours and check us out. The most exciting thing in our files would be that we both live at the same address. Woopdido.

It takes two to make crystal meth. :eek: :p

The saddest thing is they are tracking a guy who helps out the homeless. :o Well, at least it's keeping someone on his/her toes.

anthonycea
Jan 21st 2005, 6:45 am
If you watched the show, Peter Jennings last line was that government started secret data mining programs, pulled them after folks got upset about privacy violations, renamed them and classified them under different names, thus they are not subject to public scrutiny nor can congress change secret programs.

Trance-formation
Jan 21st 2005, 7:22 am
:( Boiling frogs springs to mind

anthonycea
Jan 21st 2005, 12:18 pm
If you really want to understand what they know about you and more about secret data mining programs (they change the names of these programs and classify them top secret after public outrage) look at the following link.

http://www.technologyreview.com/articles/05/01/ap/ap_011905.asp?trk=nl

Uncle Sam does love you and is looking after your affairs. :)

Makes me feel warm inside to know that someone cares :rolleyes: :p

chachi
Jan 21st 2005, 1:18 pm
caught the last forty minutes of that show. Pretty interesting. I am not too fired up on that Nora program being used though. Not that I have anything to hide, but it seems like a flawed way of associating someone. I mean, how do I know who lives in the house I used to live in? Should my address or old address or phone number be how I am associated with someone else? I don't think so.

I think that Nora could be a great tool, but like anything else, it depends on how it is used. They demonstrated pretty clearly with that segment on the Dever PD, that in the hands of the wrong people, a system like that is ripe for abuse.