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vgal
May 2nd 2008, 10:00 am
Has anyone tried them? They, of course, look and sound impressing... but it is paying to gain access to the jobs. I just got an email from them for a seven day trial for $7, but thought I'd see if anyone else has any firsthand information about them.

Thanks!

jhmattern
May 2nd 2008, 10:50 am
I wouldn't waste time with sites like this. There are better ways to market yourself... your goal should be to get the business to come to you and not throw yourself into a pool of competition competing at least a good deal on price (never smart when you're offering services). There are plenty of free resources listing jobs. There's no excuse for any service provider to pay for that - payments should generally be covered by listing fees from the hiring companies (since technically what they're doing is advertising).

djjeny
May 2nd 2008, 12:23 pm
I wouldn't waste time with sites like this. There are better ways to market yourself... your goal should be to get the business to come to you and not throw yourself into a pool of competition competing at least a good deal on price (never smart when you're offering services). There are plenty of free resources listing jobs. There's no excuse for any service provider to pay for that - payments should generally be covered by listing fees from the hiring companies (since technically what they're doing is advertising).

I second that. The best jobs websites like this are the ones where the employer pays to view a list of employees, not the other way round. To ask jobseekers to pay just to see a list of jobs is scamming them somewhat. It's kind of like being an agency but without doing any of the work that an agency normally does, so therefore I wouldn't bother paying them.

As jhmattern says... the business should always come to you if possible. You should try as hard as you can not to invest in something, financially or otherwise, when you are looking for work.

As a side-note, I mentioned agencies earlier, but they should generally only charge fees as a percentage of your earnings, and are not paid upfront. This is where this website is being a bit cheeky.

My advice? Stay away. There are plenty of much better websites out there. If this one resorts to charging the jobseekers, you have to wonder how many jobs there actually are...

:)

infofreek
May 9th 2008, 12:53 pm
Perhaps you should decide it yourself. You can get better offer from there. Nobody knows from where you can get more jobs. After all, we are here to make money and if it comes with some salt, why not take chances?
Personally my opinion is, it is better to start your writing career from a free site, just like our adorable DP. Once you are well conversant with the article writing business in the internet, you can choose yourself where to settle.

wilhb81
May 9th 2008, 1:02 pm
Totally agreed with what Jenn and djjeny said...

You don't need to pay for search a writing job, if you want to get the free job why don't you go for a visit to Deb and Jodee's site, freelancewritinggis...

TerrificContent
May 9th 2008, 1:30 pm
I wouldn't recommend using a freelance site to find work unless it is a free one like RentACoder. Even then, good jobs are few and far between. It's best to market yourself, like jhmattern suggested.

ruffneck119
May 9th 2008, 8:10 pm
You can make a ton of money on freelance sites. But, start with a free one and learn how to market yourself correctly before you shell out money.

-ruff

jhmattern
May 10th 2008, 12:00 am
ruff, out of curiosity, what would you consider a "ton of money?"

webgal
May 10th 2008, 9:15 am
I'd like to know how you define "ton of money", too.

ruffneck119
May 10th 2008, 11:03 am
JH

I have seen people get pretty much full time jobs from freelance sites. You can find big companies that spend lots of money on websites and programming.

If you do good work, develop a solid portfolio, and more importantly send the right message to the people looking to hire you can make normal designer wages (I charge $35 an hour).

jhmattern
May 10th 2008, 11:10 am
Thanks for clarifying. On a freelance basis, $35 / hr (for billable hours) really isn't very much to me and I'm sure some others here. But I can see freelance sites fulfilling that kind of goal pretty reasonably.

ruffneck119
May 10th 2008, 11:12 am
Have you seen the prices in the services section on DP?

jhmattern
May 10th 2008, 11:56 am
Of course... but that's why those of us doing bigger contract deals here spend our time doing them privately. ;) I've said over and over here the good gigs aren't the advertised ones... they're the ones you get through networking. I average well over $100 / hr writing, and my DP clients are no different in that sense than ones I've gotten elsewhere. I know more than a handful of professional writers here who work at the same, or even higher, rates very successfully here.

Jalpari
May 10th 2008, 12:05 pm
when u can market ur work in free then y u paid them.

try: getafreelancer.com or rentacoder.com

ruffneck119
May 10th 2008, 12:56 pm
I just said that because I have no clue what kind of rate he is looking for. If you are starting out its a great way to build your portfolio and learn how to sell yourself.

And, bravo on the $100/hr thing. I get around the same form my normal work because I have others do the programming.

I usually get the clients, design, and write, but honestly I want to move strictly into Business Marketing Consulting. Way more money and way more fun.

henners
May 11th 2008, 8:50 am
odesk is a good freelancing website

WritingZone
May 13th 2008, 10:37 pm
i dont agree with the matter of odesk, that is not a good site, i know some people who post fake projects in this website and get paid from them.

webgal
May 14th 2008, 9:08 pm
I usually get the clients, design, and write, but honestly I want to move strictly into Business Marketing Consulting. Way more money and way more fun.

I do a lot of this. It is fun. But I miss writing. So I use the copywriting to really round this out. I love the macro view of figuring out specifically what message works across all media.

gudez
May 14th 2008, 9:38 pm
im an owner of a new and guaranteed free freelancer site..

have it a visit: http://beafreelancer.com

tressin
May 14th 2008, 10:04 pm
I notice that this thread got a bit off-topic :p

Anyways - I'm not a writer by any means, but was actually thinking of promoting this product's affiliate program with CJ.

Did some quick looking on google, and the results weren't too positive, so I decided to promote another product.

People have mentioned this already, but generally it's a good idea to stay away from job sites that require a membership fee in order to access the information.

Trusted Writer
May 14th 2008, 10:58 pm
when u can market ur work in free then y u paid them.

try: getafreelancer.com or rentacoder.com

Personally I wouldn't waste my time or money paying a subscription or bidding on projects I have seen around those places, as I wouldn't post a reply which is not written in proper English because our words are often associated to our professional writing style.

No offense ;)

raketeer_mom
May 14th 2008, 11:01 pm
I dont want spending to market myself. I want my job do the marketing for me. :)