Seeing Massive ALGO Updates on Some DataCenters

johneva

May 7th 2006, 5:12 am

Yeah there is a new set of algos rolling out and I have really lost out on it too I have droped from 4th to 12th on my main keyword. :(

Here use this tool to check it out if you dont belive it would happen so soon after the last update.
SEOChat Multiple Datacenter Position Check Tool (http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/multiple-datacenter-keyword-position/)

mark_s

May 7th 2006, 7:02 am

I'm starting to see traffic from google after 3 months of nothing. Don't know whether it's related

Getting the same for keywords I never got traffic for but then I could just be coming out of the aging delay and it's a coincidence.

transversestyles

May 7th 2006, 9:37 am

Interesting. Nothing, yet.

Komodo Tale

May 7th 2006, 10:06 am

Something has been happening for the last week. It began on 5 to 7 datacenters and spread to 23 datacenters two days ago and yesterday. I went from 27high/34low on my most competitive keyword up to 14high/17low in these 23 datacenters. (Major happiness.)

Look for yourself at http://www.seocritique.com/serptool/serplist.htm

There has been dicsussion and confirmation at WebMasterWorld. Some are speculating that this is a full blown update, however there is no word--yet--from Brett Tabke (to whom Google has assigned the honor of naming the updates) nor from Matt Cutts.

guest

May 7th 2006, 10:14 am

I feel p***EDoff seing some of my clients result in google.

My clients competitor site uses "Frames" in his site and moreover it looks crap to me. Dont know what G' doing.

johneva

May 7th 2006, 10:21 am

Yeah I know how you feel.

All the sites that have overtook me are newer sites with less links and nothing special content wise some are really bad even.

I suppose it is a matter of just waiting and seeing for the min as this is how it goes when changes are made they at the start a load of naf sites overtake you and then it seems to sort its self out.

Las Vegas Homes

May 7th 2006, 1:56 pm

Well there is something going on cause one of our new sites which was nowhere to be found for a few of our primary key phrases is now showing on on several of these datacenters in the top 30 and top 10. Google might just be teasing us though, we will just have to wait and see.

Tearabite

May 7th 2006, 2:06 pm

I saw a jump in my rankings and traffic about 3 days ago - my traffic has increased by 2x (me smiles).
Something has definitely changed..

lappy512

May 7th 2006, 2:08 pm

Hm...My site used to have around 80,000 listings in Google, went down to around 400 becuase of supplemental hell, then crept back up to 8,000. Now I checked, and I have 20,000! :D

Cheap SEO Services

May 7th 2006, 2:10 pm

No changes to any of my sites. However, last time this happened my sites were the one of the last ones to change. Maybe I am at the bottom of whatever list? IN other words, who gets picked first. second and so on? Anyone know this?

Phynder

May 7th 2006, 2:23 pm

I am seeing some new keyworks creeping in that were not even on the radar last week - BUT it is hard to determine if this just a slight reshuffling in SERPs or something more without more evidence.

tstaut

May 7th 2006, 9:27 pm

Looks like the results I was seeing in the thread about those two mysterious DC's... same serps jump for the one I was tracking.

By the way, my indexed pages took a huge dump today on all my sites over 10K, are now showing about 500. Boooooo!

seoindia

May 8th 2006, 12:15 am

Can you rely on the results of - 216.239.37.104 - 216.239.39.10

My site is getting top ranked there.

elkiwi

May 8th 2006, 2:08 am

Data Center Position
216.239.53.99 99
216.239.53.104 99
216.239.39.99 17
216.239.39.104 17
216.239.37.99 17
216.239.37.104 17

If been getting results like this for weeks now. What pisses me off is to be number #8 for a plural of a term and #108 for that singular term. Great.

johneva

May 8th 2006, 2:11 am

Can you rely on the results of - 216.239.37.104 - 216.239.39.10

My site is getting top ranked there.

You carnt rely on anything with Google(Except things will change again soon enough), but yeah you will be top for at least a short while then till these results roll out accross all datacenters they normally have a play around after that though so things could still change yet.

dturnbull

May 8th 2006, 2:17 am

Most of my rankings are skyrocketin, so i'm happy :D

irka

May 8th 2006, 4:21 am

Hope it will remain that way.. I've been watching it since last week. I've the position #14 for my major keywords... Its a good news :)

mad4

May 8th 2006, 4:22 am

My clients competitor site uses "Frames" in his site and moreover it looks crap to me. Dont know what G' doing.

I have seen sites with frames getting a big boost as well.

irka

May 8th 2006, 4:23 am

I have seen sites with frames getting a big boost as well.

Sorry for the noob question, does google look a SSI HTML built website ( Server Side Includes ) As a Frame site ?

mad4

May 8th 2006, 4:27 am

No. SSI's are search engine friendly (although so are frames judging by this update :confused: ).

jason.ashby

May 8th 2006, 4:54 am

We have been talking about algo changes on 2 DC's for about 4 weeks now. It all started straight after the final big daddy update.

Nobody was sure what was happening, If google was testing things or if they just hadn't swintched on the filtters etc.

The last week or so the have been rolling out these results on more and more DC's

It looks like google wastesting different things and is now happey with the results.

It should only be a matter of time before they rool them out on all the DC's

BUT............for those of us who know goolge well you never really now!!!!

mobilebay

May 8th 2006, 5:34 am

i too have plummeted for a lot of my key phrases, traffic has halved :(

wrmineo

May 8th 2006, 6:06 am

So soon after the last one? Doubt it.

Ah ... that's the beauty of being the king/queen of your industry. You don't follow a timeline other than your own whims - hmm, did I just describe Google or most women?

Also, algo changes don't necessarily mean TBPR updates, although it will generally be a precursor of such an update or change.

Finally - it's not that soon after, it's been nearly 3 mos. and hence, a new update/roll-out should be in the short-term forecast.

Big Richard

May 8th 2006, 7:04 am

On about 5 of the DataCenters in this Group are showing Major Shifts in rankings...

216.239

64.233

I am seeing some strange results on those data centres - There is a lot of disparity between "plural" and "singular" terms. - On previous results google showed a very close match between singular and plural - which makes sense - these results don't

Cheap SEO Services

May 8th 2006, 7:07 am

I'm getting major fluctuations in traffic from Google lately no all sites. Somethings going on alright! Have not seen PR changes as yet. I'm expecting two sites to jump up PR very soon.

NetMidWest

May 8th 2006, 8:50 am

I am seeing fluctuations in rankings and traffic.

I am also seeing different pages being returned for some keywords, and more duplicate listings.

poohb3ar

May 8th 2006, 9:28 am

Bummer.....I agree something is going on.....we had a big jump in position about 3 weeks ago, knew it was too good to last. We have dropped in position as of this morning for keywords but our overall rank is still better than pre BD.

I did notice over the weekend that site description posted within google search results wasn't coming from our meta description but instead from the actual page content...similar to Yahoo. This has not shown up in today.

linkpro

May 8th 2006, 11:13 am

johneva

May 8th 2006, 11:39 am

I am not getting good results on searches I make I think that it has made things worse not better so far.

BrianR2

May 8th 2006, 12:41 pm

Been watching this for over 4 or 5 weeks now.....they are slowly rolling out new results. These results are a product of fixing a few issues that Bigdaddy tools apparently let them fix.

BTW: Much more quality results across a good amount of fields.

Do you know which datacenters are showing the newer results? Not the whole list but a few that I can check.

johneva

May 8th 2006, 12:58 pm

If you use this tool you can see.

Multiple datacenter Position Check Tool (http://www.seochat.com/seo-tools/multiple-datacenter-keyword-position/)

Here are some of the datacenters that are showing new results.

http://64.233.179.104
http://64.233.179.99
http://64.233.167.147
http://64.233.167.99
http://64.233.167.104

But as I have said before about this update I would not take any notice till it is over really, I have now found another 2 diffrent sets of results coming though on other datacenters.

I was in 4th couple of weeks ago now on diffrent datacenters I have results saying 4th, 12th, 3rd and 16th.

Check your site using the tool I gave you a link for.

Go figure. :)

wisam74us

May 8th 2006, 2:31 pm

Google deleting supplementary pages .. I was so panic the last week about that google dropping my sites indexing from xx K to few pages ... and as this didn t affect the whole DCs till now so I have the chance to track the problem, and up to what I can see now .. the 20 sites those I v been monitoring lost all of their supplementary pages ..
That didn t affect my ranking in SERPS (even some websites doing better now)
But the problem is my indexed pages by google getting so low and it is now one page (the homepage) left, some of them and many of good content pages dropped from the index (they were not supplementary pages)

and I v noticed .. most affected sites are .. ocmmerce sites (poor content just pictures with few words) I get on of them with 98% of its pages marked supplementary pages and they are start dropped from the index .. and now in the BD (as I pridict) I can se just the page without the supplementary mark shown in the index.

I hope that things getting better cause I get too much head ache just monitor the website index in the last few days

Komodo Tale

May 8th 2006, 3:47 pm

If you are unhappy about the rise in the SERPs of websites using frames, if indeed this is happening, please take a step backwards and consider that you might need to recheck your foundation. Using frames is perfectly acceptable website design and part of the W3C standard. The source of negativity toward frames among SEOs is that search engines traditionally have not handled frames very well; much like search engines have not handled dynamic URLs very well. Website designers became adverse to frames because, when they were introduced, their behavior in browsers was unreliable, similar to the introduction of CSS. Unlike CSS, the prejudice against frames has persisted, possibly in part because of their SEO implications. If a search engine company has found a better way to assess and index websites that correctly use frames, then those web sites should be ranked according to their content and not according to their html coding.

The Komodo Tale
Google Datacenter Tool ( http://www.seocritique.com/serptool/serplist.htm)

johneva

May 8th 2006, 4:02 pm

That is not the only problem with frames but this is not a disscussion about frames anyways, it was only brought up as it just seems strange as does many of the thing that go on during Google updates.

Why frames are bad (http://www.karlcore.com/article/id/2/)

Why frames are evil (http://www.html-faq.com/htmlframes/?framesareevil)