Google-watch.org?

[Help Desk]

What are your peoples takes on http://www.google-watch.org/?

[Bernard]

http://www.google-watch-watch.org/

[sifuhall]

Hmmmm..... They spend a bit of time discussing how Google's PR is unreliable (which may be true), but then they use Alexa's ranking as a better alternative?

[2003m2003]

Both are extremity, they should be there...people can read them and think wisely.

[Help Desk]

I thought this message would have fired up a few of the "Google Haters" out there.

It's kind of funny how the images that it says are not on Google, in fact are there. They may not appear in Google's news, but it is customary in all news in America not to show extremely graphic pictures.

However they do has a link to http://www.scroogle.org and their interesting screen scraper. I would love to do something with this...

[Bernard]

IIRC, Daniel Brant owns both google-watch.org and scroogle.org. He posts as Kackle on some SEO forums.

[minstrel]

That's because we already have another thread going on the topic here in the Google forum (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=7819). There's also a very lengthy one I've been participating in here at WebProWorld (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=35977). Daniel Brandt actually showed up in that thread.

ThinkBling, before you try that scraper, see my post here (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?p=188090#188090) -- despite Brandt's claims, you are exposing your IP if you use it.

[NewComputer]

There was a time when they had the scraper that I used do discover my search rankings within the top 100 of Google. The fact that it was via proxy always made me feel better as well. It is an interesting read that site, but I think it is nothing more than a scorned ex-Google employee with a little more knowledge than they should have.

[NewComputer]

That's because we already have another thread going on the topic here in the Google forum (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=7819). There's also a very lengthy one I've been participating in here at WebProWorld (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=35977). Daniel Brandt actually showed up in that thread.

ThinkBling, before you try that scraper, see my post here (http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?p=188090#188090) -- despite Brandt's claims, you are exposing your IP if you use it.

You know what struck me as odd about the whole cookie thing, what if Google was storing a duplicate copy of the cookie on their end.... I think I just blew Brandt's mind.... :)

[Will.Spencer]

What are your peoples takes on http://www.google-watch.org/?

No matter how good of a job you do at something, there will always be some soulless weasel to come along and complain.

[chachi]

Without the bad, it would be a lot harder to appreciate the good. Just another channel on the tv.

[anthonycea]

The more you attack DB, the more his message gets exposed, so you play into the marketing by getting upset about it.

DB is no dummy, it does not matter if you agree with him or not, he does have great insight and provides intelligence that some agree with and some don't because of undying love for Google.

Fact is that Google is a data mining company that competes with companies like ChoicePoint and there are privacy concerns to be addressed with any company that data mines consumer and business records and resells that information.

DB is not the only one writing about data privacy, see this ABC news story.

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Books/story?id=424002&page=1

They just did a show on this issue tonight.

[minstrel]

Brandt does not have great insight. What he has is great paranoia and narcissistic grandiosity. He's a petulant spoiled child who couldn't bully Google into ranking his site #1. And in retaliation, after endless misguided and misinformed rants against Google, he is now resorting to theft: theft of services (Googles SERPs) and theft of potential advertising revenue (blocking Google ads with his scraper).

As for his supposed intelligence, he couldn't even get his Google hack right. He claims

If the scraping is done properly, it is not worth Google's trouble to find you. Our source code separates the "fetch" portion of program, which is done by curl or wget, from the searcher interface and parsing of the fetched results. If the fetching is done by a server on a different Class C address from the website that shows the scraped results, there is little that Google can do to find the IP address that is responsible for the actual fetch.
But Chris Ridings (http://www.chriseo.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=85) points out that Brandt is

conveniently forgetting that his hack of an application forgets to change the useragent of the request from the curl/wget defaults, thereby leaving the fetch machines' IP addresses sitting ducks in those query logs that Brandt believes last an eternity
He's no better than a self-centered self-serving kiddie virus writer. Don't glorify pond scum. He may try to portray himself as a freedom fighter or something but he's merely a common vandal having a prolonged temper tantrum.

[anthonycea]

Does Google own the content they pull from your website or is that all fair use of copyrighted material Minstrel?

This could make a great court case, but will Google file suit, I don't think so Minstrel, do you?

The resulting publicity would in fact "Glorify your old friend DB" would it not Minstrel?

[minstrel]

I'm not going to get into that "copyright" argument and search engines, AC -- I've stated my opinion more than once: I think the argument is ludicrous.

As for Denial Brandt, I don't know if Google will sue him but they may well put a stop to his distribution of the scraper code. My guess is that what's stopping them is that it's only for Linux and there aren't enough people running that OS to worry Google.

Brandt can think and do whatever he wishes. I only get incensed when he or someone else tries to portray him as some sort of crusader or humanitarian. He's neither.

[anthonycea]

So Google should have no critics and should operate with impunity :confused:

No company does and business is not a fair world, there are many organizations engaged in all kinds of FUD in this industry traditionally as you well know, it will not come to an end anytime soon Minstrel.

The thing that is amazing is how you support Microsoft and Google at the same time when they are arch enemies.

[minstrel]

So Google should have no critics and should operate with impunity
Please don't put words in my mouth and then refute them, Anthony. That's Mel's style and it's annoying.

I've never said that anyone should be immune to criticism or scrutiny. Brandt is a narcisistic self-serving fraud who poses as a humanitarian protector of the abused and downtrodden and who manufactures issues to alarm people. That's my objection to him.

The thing that is amazing is how you support Microsoft and Google at the same time when they are arch enemies.
What's surprising about that? I support what works. I also support Quicken over Money and my sites are hosted on a Linux/Apache server because I like the way it works.

[anthonycea]

How is it possible to do this Minstrel, on one hand you support an OS that is aiming to exclude Google from the search business by incorporating MSN search into a browserless search.

Would you call this a monopoly (I do not put words in your mouth, you say I do)?

[MELLA]

Please don't put words in my mouth and then refute them, Anthony. That's Mel's style and it's annoying.

Which Mel?! :o :o

[anthonycea]

A guy named Mel, not a boy named Sue :p

[minstrel]

How is it possible to do this Minstrel, on one hand you support an OS that is aiming to exclude Google from the search business by incorporating MSN search into a browserless search.
If they can do it better than Google, that's okay with me. They certainly aren't there yet, IMO. As an end user, I want things that work well. I don't care if they are produced by Google, Microsoft, or even *gasp* Linux.

Would you call this a monopoly
Would I call what a monopoly?

[anthonycea]

Using the Windows OS market share (and the future $100.00 disposable PC) and ITV OS (internet TV) to direct all searches to Microsoft?

[Help Desk]

Using the Windows OS market share (and the future $100.00 disposable PC) and ITV OS (internet TV) to direct all searches to Microsoft?
Where you any good at connect the dots when you were young?

[anthonycea]

No Bling, I left that to deep thinkers such as yourself :rolleyes:

[Help Desk]

I ask because your points of argument aren't able to be followed. :)

[anthonycea]

Minstrel is not having any problems understanding Bling, maybe you need to connect the dots better......

[MELLA]

I may not be Albert Einstein but Anthony's points are clearly backed up. I understand fully. Maybe you better read the posts again.

[anthonycea]

Bling might be thread bumping and just using me, this is the best thread he has started in a long time at Digital Point :p :D :p

[MELLA]

I just got a Bad rep point for that last post of mine. It seems that if you assosiate yourself with Anthony in any way, you get penalised for it. *Runs away*

[anthonycea]

Bling did that, no doubt, I would not worry about getting on Bling's good side, in fact you would be better off with zero contact with him, he does have a few problems up north :p :p

[Help Desk]

I may not be Albert Einstein but Anthony's points are clearly backed up. I understand fully. Maybe you better read the posts again.
If you speak "Anthony", please be my guest and detail his points.

[anthonycea]

Why bother Bling, you already ruined your own thread :p :p :D

[Help Desk]

Bling did that, no doubt, I would not worry about getting on Bling's good side, in fact you would be better off with zero contact with him, he does have a few problems up north :p :p
Thank you for jumping the gun. I haven't been online the entire weekend so please open your mouth and insert your foot.

This is Anthony's normal reaction to making him debate rationally. Anthony is incapable of discussing a topic without spouting out of context quotes and theories.

I going to make a prediction.... instead of given a few example of good posts that he has made in the past, he will begin to try to attack my character and attempt to flame me.

[anthonycea]

I have to go take a nap, that post was like taking a sleeping pill ;)

[Help Desk]

I have to go take a nap, that post was like taking a sleeping pill ;)
<anthonycea Translation>
You're right I'm wrong. I will now try to now to end this conversation.
</anthonycea Translation>

[anthonycea]

Let the readers decide who is right or wrong, why did you start the insults and give Mella bad rep. Bling, don't lie, that was given out before the weekend started Bling :confused:

You ruined your own thread man, nothing new for you Bling :p :p

[SEbasic]

Gotta say anthony, all that was asked for was a few links and an explanation...

You were very rude IMO...

[anthonycea]

Where you any good at connect the dots when you were young?


Is that what he asked SE???

You been taking those Bling dummy pills too???

You don't know Bling like I do, he has the character of a sewer rat :cool:

[SEbasic]

Whatever...

[Help Desk]

Is that what he asked SE???

You been taking those Bling dummy pills too???

You don't know Bling like I do, he has the character of a sewer rat :cool:
I must be psychic. See the folowing quote.
I going to make a prediction.... instead of giving a few examples of good posts that he has made in the past, he will begin to try to attack my character and attempt to flame me.

[Help Desk]

..Bling, don't lie, that was given out before the weekend started Bling :confused: ...
Mella, check your comments now and see who did it.

[minstrel]

I must be psychic. See the folowing quote.
I going to make a prediction.... instead of giving a few examples of good posts that he has made in the past, he will begin to try to attack my character and attempt to flame me.
Yeah but it's not like you're an innocent bystander. You gotta love it when someone throws a snowball at another guy and then complains when he throws one back.

[Help Desk]

Yeah but it's not like you're an innocent bystander. You gotta love it when someone throws a snowball at another guy and then complains when he throws one back.

I understand your meaning, but think your allusion is a little off.

[anthonycea]

OK Bling, this was a good thread you started, then some of your comments started it off track into a flame war, you and I have shared many of them right here on this forum in the past and you seem to be haunted by them and want to continue down this path for some reason.

If you think I am one to just take your insults you are in error, I thought you would have learned by now man.

I have been telling you all along to work on being a better forum player and we would get along fine.

You just continue to miss that point.

[Help Desk]

anthonycea, you are a little off. I am attempting to get you to debate the points instead of keep moving the point.

Secondly, I would also like to bring up the issue that you portray all big entities, specifically large companies, as bad entities. If something, like a Google, can be both big, popular and complex at the same time, does that mean they are inherrently bad?

[anthonycea]

Is asking if you played connect the dots as a child a proper question Bling?

If you have a question, ask a specific logical question, don't pose it as an insult.

Most members here just are not going to read your mind either.

You actually have to ask the question you are seeking an answer for and don't leave it an open ended question.

If you want a positive response to your threads, try not to upset those who contribute to your threads for no reason.

Is that too much to ask Bling?

[MELLA]

Mella, check your comments now and see who did it.


He is right, he is right!! It wasnt him. For the love of god stop accusing this innocent man!!!!!!!!!!! :p :D

[anthonycea]

Just remember who started the trouble Bling :eek:

[MELLA]

*Tuts and shakes her weary head* Kiss and make up you two :p

[Help Desk]

Is asking if you played connect the dots as a child a proper question Bling?

If you have a question, ask a specific logical question, don't pose it as an insult.

Most members here just are not going to read your mind either.

You actually have to ask the question you are seeking an answer for and don't leave it an open ended question.

If you want a positive response to your threads, try not to upset those who contribute to your threads for no reason.

Is that too much to ask Bling?

Is "what" too much to ask? I see a whole lot of telling in your post and no question asking.
Did you have something bad happen to you with "connect the dots" when you where young? That would explain your reaction.

[MELLA]

Did you have something bad happen to you with "connect the dots" when you where young?

Please dont bring up the words ''connect the dots'' when Anthony is around. He has seen numerous physciatrists, councellers and shrinks but nothing can undo the trauma that poor anthony suffered in his childhood that one sunday morning in rainy april during that tragic game......

[CHERRY]

when join the dots turned in2 a game of tracin the bullet holes left in his caravan.........................

[MELLA]

....and then shortly after, came the horrific floods of '88.
His caravan turned into a submarine leaving poor anthony waterlogged, he had NOTHING. If it wasn't for his boy scout tricks he had learnt as a nipper, he would have been a goner. He managed to survive by eating soggy rice crispies and left over dog food that he found floating about. If it hadent been for the German girl, Helga VonTrap, who lived in her campervan next door spotting anthony's weak attempts of signalling for help..ah i just dont know what would have happened... I don't know if any of you are familiar with the Dutch fairytale. 'The boy that put his finger in the dijk' well.... lets just say it wasn't Anthony's finger in the bullet hole. So next time you decide to bring up the once innocent game of conect the dots, spare a thought for dear Anthony, put yourself in his shoes and think about it from his point of view!!!!! :rolleyes: :cool:

[CHERRY]

Lamo@mella

[minstrel]

*sigh*

Look, ThinkBling, let's face it: You took a shot at Anthony with your "connect the dots" remark, he took a shot back. It's all there in the history of this thread so there's no point in playing innocent.

Now, can you both just get over it? This feels like when my sons were 5 and 7 and arguing over who poked who first.

[anthonycea]

How did you girls get a hold of Minstrel's files on our sessions, he was not supposed to release those records to the public in any wise??????

[MELLA]

BIG SISTER is watching you Anthony.....

[anthonycea]

This is all Minstrel's fault, if he would not have been bashing DB and Googlewatch I would have never posted in this thread.

Bling, you should have never high jacked this subject from Minstrel's other threads and posts here and we would have never run into each other.

What the hell was this thread about again. :confused:

Bling, welcome to the forum, have you met Minstrel, Cherry and Mella :p :p :)

[MELLA]

Nice to meet you Bling!!!!!!!! Don't worry... Once Anthony has removed el Pole from el arseio...he is a verrrrry friendly loving guy :D :p

*Blows Ant a sloppy kiss*

[minstrel]

Yes, and normally I'd be upset about thread-jacking again, except in this case ThinkBling started the thread and then was an active participant in the highjacking...

[MELLA]

Yes, he made his Thread...so now he can lie in it.

:confused: :cool: :eek:

[anthonycea]

You guys must also understand that this kind of flow has always existed on this forum between Bling and I, he likes to piss me off for some reason.

Maybe you guys can figure the reason.

So as far as us living on the same block, don't count on it anytime soon. :p

[SEbasic]

he likes to piss me off for some reason.And are you saying the feeling isn't mutual?

It's just another pathetic flame session Anthony...

Sorry, but during this thread, I really haven't been impressed...

My $0.02 - Nothing more...

[anthonycea]

Yeah SE, sorry I did not mention that you joined in to piss me off also, thanks for reminding all of us.

Look at the flow of the posts, like Minstrel said, it is there, was I attacking Bling?

Who started the flames as you call them SE :confused:

[minstrel]

ThinkBling did fire the first shot, AC. But I agree with SEbasic. You could rise above this and stop firing back.

[anthonycea]

OK, but this entire thread is a flame session, even the fact that DB is flaming Google, Minstrel flaming DB, Bling flaming Anthony, SE and Anthony flaming each other and Mella providing relief from the flaming.

So what, the thread is generating interest and sometimes these threads turn out to be our best threads.

Now does anyone want to get back to the original flaming or do we just fight with one another on who is the biggest flamer?

[MELLA]

Now does anyone want to get back to the original flaming or do we just fight with one another on who is the biggest flamer?

I vote for the second option. A bit of firey passion is just what this place needs... Who's the biggest flamer in here? Place your bets now!!!!

Handbag's at the ready, Ladies!! :D :rolleyes:

[minstrel]

DB is flaming Google, Minstrel flaming DB, Bling flaming Anthony, SE and Anthony flaming each other
I'm not flaming anyone and neither is SEbasic. With Brandt, I have seen him posturing as a protector of freedoms on various forums for a long time and it sickens me because I know and he knows that in reality he's nothing but a petulant child having a prolonged tantrum at Google's expense. At least there, there's an issue. With the ThinkBling-Anthonycea war, there's nothing of interest to anyone but the two combatants.

[anthonycea]

Duno, I am not bad at it when folks piss me off, start a thread in general chat on it Mella. (Thread with a POLL)

Be sure Minstrel and SE are on it please, I am going to vote for one of them, put Bling in there too :p

[MELLA]

Duno, I am not bad at it when folks piss me off, start a thread in general chat on it Mella. (Thread with a POLL)

Be sure Minstrel and SE are on it please, I am going to vote for one of them, put Bling in there too :p

Ha Ha okay choices:

Anthony
Minstrel (although he is not a flamer, more of a blamer ha ha kidding)
SE
ThinkBling

Any other flamer's around these here parts?

[anthonycea]

VS and Compar are real good :D

[MELLA]

Ha Ha okay done. Now let's sit and wait who get's crowned KING of flaming....

*Sparks up a dooby*

[CHERRY]

ThinkBling did fire the first shot, AC. But I agree with SEbasic. You could rise above this and stop firing back.

its ok minstrel rumour has it anthony is firing blanks :D

[anthonycea]

Exactly, I could not hurt a flea, plus I have not the money to support nor raise children :p :D :p

[CHERRY]

hummmm................. not 2 sure about that another rumour floating around is if you stuck a lump of coal up ur ass ud shit out a diamond coz ur so tight ha ha ;) :p :D

[minstrel]

I think you messed up that metaphor, Cherry... :confused:

[CHERRY]

haha sorry lol i mean a lump of coal hehe

[anthonycea]

Yeah, cut it out before you hurt little Anthony's fellings :(

Now back on topic, Google watch is not all that bad, we have given the site more attention and I think that DB is just sitting back laughing at us all as we write :p

PS: DB, you should join the forum :eek:

[minstrel]

I don't know about that, AC -- he's been taking a right beating over at WPW and he's once again fallen silent, having run out of utter nonsense to spout.

[anthonycea]

I think when folks realize that Google tomorrow is not going to be the same company (stand alone search engine) that it has been in the past, then all the concerns about spyware, privacy and the issues folks are fighting about today will have little meaning.

Google does not care about these issues unless laws are created to stop them from the data mining that DB and others (even myself) have written about. These issues affect all companies in the data mining business, not just Google.

Google is becoming a company like IBM, a computer services provider (on demand network computing) with their own OS and platform.

All this other stuff was/is a stepping stone for them to reach the above goal.

[Help Desk]

Is there any proof that that Google is unethical?

[CHERRY]

proof...proof you cant handle the proof!!!!!!!!!

[anthonycea]

Is there any proof that that Google is unethical?

Ask the state of California, they are the one's that passed email laws when Gmail was introduced ;)

[Help Desk]

Ask the state of California, they are the one's that passed email laws when Gmail was introduced ;)
Is that proof that they are unethical? Also are you saying that laws are intrinsically ethical?

[anthonycea]

Do a search on is G-mail unethical?

Let me know what you find.

[SEbasic]

1) http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/djst/archives/007158.html (Merry Christmas)
2) http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum100/27.htm (WMW)
3) http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum100/27-7-10.htm (WMW)
4) http://slashdot.org/articles/04/06/21/1150236.shtml?tid=126&tid=217&tid=95 (News about Hotmail blocking Gmail invites)
5) http://richardathome.no-ip.com/index.php?article_id=331 (Chat abuot unethical spammers)
6) http://atheism.about.com/library/FAQs/phil/blphil_eth_waranti.htm (Anti War)
7) http://www.mcse.ms/message1337215-3.html (Forum discussions about win XP passwords)
8) http://www.bradfallon.com/archives/2004_04_18_archive.html (Anti-google blog Post)
9) https://ssl.cpsr.org/pipermail/india-gii/2004-August/008211.html (Couldn't be arsed to find out, but it wasn't about Gmail)
10) http://www.physicsforums.com/archive/t-31832_Donate_a_Gmail_Invite.html (Someone begging for a Gmail invite)

The search term I used was "Is G-mail unethical"...

What were you expecting us to find anthony?

[anthonycea]

I don't know why you would post worthless links like those SE, especially the WMW links, those are about as worthless as an empty post.

Maybe if you posted something relevant it would be better.

http://news.com.com/California+Senate+approves+anti-Gmail+bill/2100-1028_3-5222062.html?tag=nefd.top

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[SEbasic]

You siad... Do a search on is G-mail unethical?

Let me know what you find.That was the results on a search for "Is Gmail Unethical"...

You did ask me to let you know what I find...

That was it. :)

[Help Desk]

I don't know why you would post worthless links like those SE, especially the WMW links, those are about as worthless as an empty post.
Maybe if you posted something relevant it would be better.

Take it easy trigger. No need to go on the offensive.

http://news.com.com/California+Senate+approves+anti-Gmail+bill/2100-1028_3-5222062.html?tag=nefd.top
This doesn't show that anybody did anything wrong. The bill is actually in line with Google's practices.

I know you can do better.

[anthonycea]

Read post # 80 over and over, make a large format digital print poster out of it, put it on your office wall, after reading it for a month or so you may gain wisdom.

Just keep trying, one day you will understand my son...........

[Help Desk]

Read post # 80 over and over, make a large format digital print poster out of it, put it on your office wall, after reading it for a month or so you may gain wisdom.


Where's the proof that Google commits this unethical practice? What you comment on is the "potential" of being unethical. Everybody and piece of software has the potential of being unethical.

For example, virus protection software is the most invasive software there is. There is a lot of potential there for wrong doing on their part, but privacy doesn't seem to be an issue there. What's the difference?

[anthonycea]

So where do you wish to take the discussion?

M$ with the control of anti-spyware, AV, firewalls, the Windows OS with automatic updates, software verification, search engine integrated into the browserless OS that automatically suggests sites to visit will be the greatest spyware system of all time.

Not to mention hard drive search that will be integrated with M$ search.

All search functions will be a spyware function knowing everything about you and your files to suggest more sources of information.

Computing has become spying Bling.

[minstrel]

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=7819

http://www.webproworld.com/viewtopic.php?t=35977

[anthonycea]

I guess you have completed the circle, that is where this started again on DP anyway Minstrel.

Thanks ;)

[Help Desk]

How is adding functionality the same as spying?

[minstrel]

Yeah. That was my point. This was a superfluous thread to start with sincve we already had one going here. Then it turned into a flame war and became even more superflous.

[Help Desk]

Yeah. That was my point. This was a superfluous thread to start with sincve we already had one going here. Then it turned into a flame war and became even more superflous.
Concerning "That was my point", what are you referring to? Does it really matter if there is more than one conversation started?

[minstrel]

If you are debating exactly the same issues (and then going off-topic to flame people to boot), yes. On most forums, the two threads would have been merged or a moderator would have posted a link to the main one and locked the second.

You're raising points and questions here that were already addressed. And had been before you started this thread, for that matter.

[SEbasic]

Hey anthony... Do you like my new avatar???

[Help Desk]

If people are willing to talk about the same topic on more than one thread, what does it matter? If you want this thread to die because it's repeated, it would happen much quicker if you stopped posting to it.

As far as flaming, I think we could all learn a little from what others think...
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=8534&page=1&pp=10

[minstrel]

ThinkBling, if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question.

[anthonycea]

Bling has always made it hard to be his friend. He will attempt to stick your hand in a meat grinder then ask, are we still friends?

This is his way of getting us to contribute to the thread, he is a good promoter Minstrel (he is getting better, let’s put it that way).

[Help Desk]

ThinkBling, if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question.
What question would that be?

[minstrel]

You know, ThinkBling, I'm beginning to understand why Anthony finds you so annoying.

Yeah. That was my point. This was a superfluous thread to start with sincve we already had one going here. Then it turned into a flame war and became even more superflous.
Concerning "That was my point", what are you referring to? Does it really matter if there is more than one conversation started?
If you are debating exactly the same issues (and then going off-topic to flame people to boot), yes. On most forums, the two threads would have been merged or a moderator would have posted a link to the main one and locked the second.

You're raising points and questions here that were already addressed. And had been before you started this thread, for that matter.
If people are willing to talk about the same topic on more than one thread, what does it matter? If you want this thread to die because it's repeated, it would happen much quicker if you stopped posting to it.

As far as flaming, I think we could all learn a little from what others think...
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/show...34&page=1&pp=10
ThinkBling, if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question.
What question would that be?
Let me spell it out, in case that isnj't clear. Earlier in this thread, you taunted Anthony and then complained he was flaming you. I pointed out that you weren't blameless. later, I made a comment about this thread being superfluous and, following a subsequent comment by Anthony, said, "That was my point."

You then asked me what I meant by that comment. I explained. You took offense and implied I was flaming you. And finally I said, "if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question."

Do you get it now? Sheesh.

[anthonycea]

Never seen a thread locked on DP that much, but this one is done :mad: :( :p

[Help Desk]

Let me spell it out, in case that isnj't clear. Earlier in this thread, you taunted Anthony and then complained he was flaming you. I pointed out that you weren't blameless. later, I made a comment about this thread being superfluous and, following a subsequent comment by Anthony, said, "That was my point."

You then asked me what I meant by that comment. I explained. You took offense and implied I was flaming you. And finally I said, "if you don't want to hear the answer, don't ask the question."

Do you get it now? Sheesh.
Chill. You post messages stating "That was my point". I simply asked what specific message you where referencing.

Dude, it's time for you stop taking everything so personally. I highly recommend you have a couple of these...
http://www.40ozmaltliquor.com/stideshg.html

Concerning Anthony, I hope that he is at least a little annoyed. Otherwise my job of playing devil's advocate isn't working.

[Help Desk]

Never seen a thread locked on DP that much, but this one is done :mad: :( :p
Do you think we could do it?

[minstrel]

I made a comment about this thread being superfluous and, following a subsequent comment by Anthony, said, "That was my point." You then asked me what I meant by that comment. I explained. You took offense and implied I was flaming you.
Chill. You post messages stating "That was my point". I simply asked what specific message you where referencing.
Not quite. When I replied to your question, you posted a link to imply I was flaming you.

[anthonycea]

Shawn does not lock threads Bling, but this one is dead :mad:

Like I said, if you want folks to contribute to your threads, try not to upset them so much :cool:

[MELLA]

Can everyone take a chill pill, before i open up a can of WHOOP ASS on y'allll :p

[Help Desk]

Not quite. When I replied to your question, you posted a link to imply I was flaming you.
I was posting the link so that maybe you'd realize you are a little crabby and can not have anybody else have the last word. I bet as long as I keep replying to you, you'll keep replying.

Just let it go.

Mella, please open the can. This thread needs it.