A question about the "SenserelyYours" service

[tayiper]

You see, it's that right after I've registered an AdSense account, I got an e-mail invitation to register an account at SenserelyYours site: http://www.senserely.com ...


So since I don't know nothing about it, I am interested: what is this all about, is it recommended to sign-up or not etc. ??


thanks, tayiper

[ServerUnion]

I dont like placing my adsense ID on sites that I cannot control. Can run into issues if they do something that google doesn't agree with.

[Gurpartap]

if anyone has to, they just open up ur ad code and use the pub ID to spoil up :D

[wwwSENSERELYcom]

Hello, what it is all about is described on the site on the help page:
http://www.senserely.com/senserely_faq.php

There's not much more to be said about it, you have to try it and see if it suits you or not. There's also a list of other such adsense revenue sharing programs on the site:
http://www.senserely.com/ads_revenue_sharing_programs.php

[jackburton2006]

I've had issues with user "wwwSENSERELYcom" targeting noob Adsense publishers in the past. He's admitted that he's only going after the noobs. I've questioned why this was the case, and I think it's obvious -- it's easier to convince a noob to join him than a veteran.

I would be very, very careful about handing over your account to someone you don't know from Adam or Eve. Remember that if he does something illegal with it, you are gone from Adsense for good.

Caveat Emptor.

[wwwSENSERELYcom]

Yes, but why would I or another ad revenue sharing webmaster do something illegal with his website? Do you think I want my adsense gone too?
You've questionned why this was the case and I've answered you, because adsense newbies are looking for help when someone already making lots of money with AdSense would feel his time is better spent on improving one's network of sites.

I don't try to convince anyone, I think it is obvious that if you're already a writer, you can subscribe in as many ad revenue sharing websites and write away: you earn more money than with your blog alone and AdSense is OK with that, I've asked them personnally and it's fine.

As you could see by visiting Senserely.com there are many members who are not AdSense beginners but have already subscribed to several sites sharing AdSense revenue and simply like to write and increase their audience.

[khin007]

http://www.senserely.com/how-does-it-work.php

Senserely is an AdSense revenue sharing community and it’s purpose is to enable you (as an AdSense Publisher) to increase your AdSense revenue with minimal effort, both on your own site and directly on Senserely.com which is the mothership of our “little” community.

How can we achieve that?
It’s quite simple:

- If you choose to contribute content to Senserely, by providing thousands of visitors to your content and exposing your own AdSense ads to them. The best content you can contribute, the more money you will make out of Senserely.com but in any case your revenue should substantially increase.

- If you choose NOT to contribute content to Senserely, by offering you great AdSense optimization techniques so you can apply them on your own websites. From this website you get the best RSS news about Google AdSense and many of the most respectable webmasters are contributing to Senserely, so their advice is well worth the time you’ll spend reading it!

OK, now let’s be more specific!
1. First thing to do is to join us of course, it’s free and easy but you’ll need to give us your (public information) AdSense Publisher ID as we only accept membership from AdSense Publishers. If you don’t have an AdSense account, you can apply for one here and give them www.Senserely.com as your website URL if you don’t have a website of your own.
2. Second thing is to log in Senserely.com and create your first content, you’ll win 1 point each time you submit a content to Senserely.
3. Then, when people come to read your content - or on other parts of Senserely.com - your AdSense Publisher ID will be inserted in AdSense blocks (3 AdSense, 1 Adlink, 1 Google Search and 3 Google Referrals) and you’ll get the money derived from clicks directly in your AdSense account, in REAL TIME!

And the money just keeps on flowing like that everyday!

But… Why should you want to earn points?
Everytime you submit a new content you earn 1 point. At first you need 3 points in order to have your AdSense Publisher ID inserted in your content pages. Then when you’ll earn 2 more you’ll pass the minimum threshold of 5 points in order to have your ID inserted in all other pages. The more points you’ll have earned the better share you’ll get from the other pages.

You can win points by contributing content to Senserely but also by inviting your friends to our community: 1 point for one invitation and one more point when your friend registers!

A few IMPORTANT points:
- whenever you’re loggued in, you can be sure that we will not present you with AdSense blocks that have your AdSense Publisher ID, so you can feel safe about clicking on Google ads that interest you. But be careful when you’re not loggued in, never click on an AdSense block if you see your username in the upper left corner of the page: Google won’t appreciate that and you might have problems if you do it too often! They can - and they will - terminate your account if you abuse the system by clicking your own ads blocks.

- your content page will always display your AdSense Publisher ID (except when you’re loggued in) and never another member’s.

- neutral pages revenues are shared among members, depending on how much points you’ve earned so far by contributing content to the community: two members with at least 5 points are chosen at random, the one with most points wins. If both members have the same amount of points, one of them is chosen at random.

Well, that’s it!

[jackburton2006]

Yes, but why would I or another ad revenue sharing webmaster do something illegal with his website? Do you think I want my adsense gone too?
You've questionned why this was the case and I've answered you, because adsense newbies are looking for help when someone already making lots of money with AdSense would feel his time is better spent on improving one's network of sites.

I don't know you, I don't know what you're capable of, and to risk a potentially huge money earner with a total stranger with a website and a Internet handle is taking your life into your hands.

And I think there's a difference between giving "help" to noobs and trying to rope them into a scheme. Your tactics continue to bother me. It's my 2 cents and I'll keep mentioning it rather you like it or not.

[iowadawg]

He is basically giving away a service.
Which is his right and I hope he does good at it.
As said by two others here, giving your adsense pub id to another site is putting your adsense account at risk.

Let me get clear on this part though...
Senserely wants you to join, and drive visitors to your page, correct?
Would it not make more sense, at least for me, to spend that time and money promoting, to spend it all on a present site?
And it seems, correct me if I am wrong, that in the process of driving this traffic to your page at that site, you are also helping the owner get traffic to make some money on.

Just my nickel's worth.

[wwwSENSERELYcom]

To jackburton2006: Yes, ok I understand your position, so please keep on being bothered and mentionning it, I don't mind it's just one more post to write to answer you :-)

I use Digital Point ad revenue sharing option by giving my adsense publisher ID in my profile, I don't know the webmaster and I'm not afraid in any way because I understand what I'm giving them: a public information available on every webpages where are my adsense blocks and not my adsense login and password: as Gurpartap said it's very easy to mess up with your AdSense ID anyway, at least when you join an ad revenue program/scheme you know the webmaster has some interest in keeping his website safe and compliant with AdSense's TOS.

And before loosing your account Google will be contacting you, so you can explain yourself, there's no risk involved, have you heard one story that someone lost his google account by being abused on someon else website? I've not yet heard such story, but many other stories.

Anyway I think I give help to noobs in answering their questions on forum and I also contact some of them (not all noobs as you said) but that's it, I'm not harrassing them as you can see, once information only, some took the offer some not, I don't mind it's totally normal.

[wwwSENSERELYcom]

To explain how I see ad revenue sharing programs to iowadawg here is a background information:
the way to go with ad revenue sharing programs is don't be afraid of copy and paste your own content, from your blog. No it will not be seen by google search as a duplicate content since the websites are very different, and on each ad revenue sharing programs you can put links back to the original source: your blog, which should stay the central place of your self on the web, the place where new readers you get from contributing in other websites will know they can get the latest content from your blog directly. So for example you write something new on your blog, wait some days before going through all ad revenue sharing programs and paste it there with a link to your original post.

This should not be seen as temporary and quick way to make additionnal adsense money, rather as another source of income that needs to be built in the same ay as you build your own blog. And contributing content will not take long time at all, just login, add content, be gone.
Why need time? Because it will take time to get your content on google, msn, yahoo search engines on senserely, on writingup, on bloggerparty, etc.
Join many such websites, put them in a bookmark folder in firefox, have firefox remember the login and passwords. When you want to send content, simply click on the folder with the mousewheel button to open all sites in tabs and start pasting your content, it would take 5 minutes maximum to contribute one piece of content to half a dozen such websites. And the rewards in adsense will be good not tomorrow, not in one month maybe, but think about it in 6 months when you will have so much content everywhere with your adsense working on each of them and every pages linking to your own blog!

That's the way you should think of it, I don't know if I've convinced you, but at least I'd have tried. :-)

[tayiper]

... totally unrelated, but I will ask it anyway.

But be careful when you’re not loggued in, never click on an AdSense block if you see your username in the upper left corner of the page: Google won’t appreciate that and you might have problems if you do it too often! They can - and they will - terminate your account if you abuse the system by clicking your own ads blocks.

I am just interested about the following (just in theory), so consider this example. I for instance connect to the Internet with a dial-up connection, so as first, I have a new IP-address each time I connect. Therefore IMO the only way for Google to actually know that it was me who was clicking the ads, is in case if I would be logged-into the Google AdSense, and at the same time, I would click on my own ad. However, even then, what if this particular computer is used by more than one person; like for instance my family members or other people who also work with my work-computer ??


Futher, I have three separate dial-up accounts (i.e. three different ISPs), so what if I would always use one of them to login to Google AdSense, and use othe other two for clicking my own ads ?? And yeah, what about public computers in countless libraries and cyber-caffes ?? I think that there is no way for Google to know was it me or someone else that clicked on an ad. So could please anyone explain all this to me !!


As said by two others here, giving your adsense pub id to another site is putting your adsense account at risk.

Yeah, but AFAIK anyone can see/get my AdSense ID simply by viewing the souce of my site, isn't it so ??


thanks again, tayiper

[Kngavl]

For the whole public computers thing, wouldn't it be true that those ip addresses would still be broadcasting from the same area and google may get suspicious that those ip's are all coming from the same city/part of town?

[wwwSENSERELYcom]

I don't know, I think Google may also use cookies to track, but honestly I'm not really interested in technics on how to trick AdSense, not interested at all, usually I'm open on lots of things, but on this one I consider learning anything for this purpose is purely loosing time because I am not going to try anything to trick adsense since there are so many legitimate web surfers ready to click on your adsense ads if they happen to come on your site and your ad placement is correct.

[dirtyc]

I'd like to propose some food for thought:

What are the long-term implications of these "revenue sharing" sites?

Incentivized clicks are illegal. That is clear. You cannot directly encourage people to click on ads. However, I would think that as a community grows it would foster a "I'll scratch your back and you scratch mine" mentality.

For example, I'm at digital point. I know that I can't click on my own ads and make myself money. However, I can click on other people's Adsense ads and make them money. That person is going to be happy about their income and spend more time at digital point as a result of it. Even if through no concious effort, they'll click on more ads as a result of being here. Perhap they'll even click on a few more ads than they should just because they're excited and want to share the accomplishment with their peers. After all, winning is great, but winning together is even better.

No one ever actually says "hey lets all click on each others ads" but we all know that we communicate in more ways that the written word. Does anyone else see how something like this could happen and eventually "snow-ball effect."

By saying "revenue sharing" are we not also saying "click on ads and we'll all make money together"?

[jackburton2006]

All those noobs, with dollar signs in their eyes, gathered in one place trying to earn money... Hmm... I like your chances. :)

[wwwSENSERELYcom]

By saying "revenue sharing" are we not also saying "click on ads and we'll all make money together"?

I understand, but that is up to members to do what they want and it is not yet forbidden to clicks on ads when you are an adsense publisher. What I wrote in the rules on the sign up form and in the member's profile is simple:
Never click on your own ad
Never ask others to click on your ad
Never tell others that you clicked on their ads

And if I happen to know that one of those rules has been broken I will not wait a day or tell the member not to do it again: he/she will be banned from senserely, I don't care how many time he/she invested in the site. There are many such ad revenue sharing websites and there will be more in 2006 so they can use others. In fact I recommend them to use as many as they can AND to have their own network of sites, based on WordPress or Drupal or handmade HTML.

The important thing to understand is that the fact that your adsense publisher id is on a website you don't own doesn't change the rules that you would follow on your own sites.