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ASPMachine
Apr 30th 2008, 6:30 am
Hello friends....
I want to know your opinions on it. Why most of the directories have good Alexa rank than most of other site? I found most of directories are between 50,000 to 3,000,00.

mikey1090
Apr 30th 2008, 6:33 am
Becuase they get a lot of traffic, much of which is webmaster traffic. Webmasters use the alexa plugin in FireFox so improve that sites rank when they visit.

SEO_WatchDog
Apr 30th 2008, 7:31 am
Does that mean if you add a page for webmasters on your site it will get good PR :)

Obelia
Apr 30th 2008, 9:27 am
Does that mean if you add a page for webmasters on your site it will get good PR
No. Two different companies and ranking systems.

Alexa has always been biased in favour of the websites that other webmasters visit. Until they can get a different audience to adopt their toolbar, or they reduce its importance in their ranking system, it's going to stay that way.

WallaceYeung
Apr 30th 2008, 10:09 pm
one of the reasons is that the directory get real traffic,
but you can also buy traffic. :)

hyper
Apr 30th 2008, 10:51 pm
Becuase they get a lot of traffic, much of which is webmaster traffic. Webmasters use the alexa plugin in FireFox so improve that sites rank when they visit.

yeah, the best answer you can get.
In few words... Alexa Rank measures the webmaster traffic.

So, if you own a website like : www.MyDogShittedOnTheCarpet.com ...your Alexa Traffic rank won't be so high...even if you have huge traffic...but it is not "that" traffic.

snowbird
Apr 30th 2008, 10:56 pm
Alexa traffic ranks are not accurate, regardless of the niche. Alexa says my directory has the majority of traffic coming from India, when it fact USA traffic is 40 times that.

And as everyone above noted, directories get a lot of webmaster traffic - especially if its a free directory.

hyper
Apr 30th 2008, 11:00 pm
Alexa traffic ranks are not accurate, regardless of the niche. Alexa says my directory has the majority of traffic coming from India, when it fact USA traffic is 40 times that.

And as everyone above noted, directories get a lot of webmaster traffic - especially if its a free directory.

Try Google Analytics and you will see..that Alexa may not be wrong.

rcj662
Apr 30th 2008, 11:06 pm
I do not place much in alexa traffic and they just redid formula so all those ranks might be different now

hyper
Apr 30th 2008, 11:15 pm
I do not place much in alexa traffic and they just redid formula so all those ranks might be different now

Even if the new rankins are different..I think is in the good way. Everyone tries to improve the business services.

mq778b
May 1st 2008, 1:08 am
Alexa rank calc based on browsers which are using alexa toolbar.
Seemingly there is a strong correlation:
1. of being a webmaster and promoting site via directories and
2. of using alexa toolbar.

there are more such correlations:
I've paid attention that 95% of traffic from DP to my site arrive by FFOX,
But totally no more that 20% of traffic by FFOX. 75% - IE6/7

Webmaster habits are unusual one!?

Event_King
May 1st 2008, 4:00 am
Alexa has always been biased in favour of the websites that other webmasters visit.

Really? - great, where does it say this on the Alexa site or Amazon sites?

I don't trust any of the toolbars at present, Google's is flawed and controlling, and Alexa can be manipulated by visiting your own site.

JamieG
May 1st 2008, 4:57 am
Hello friends....
I want to know your opinions on it. Why most of the directories have good Alexa rank than most of other site? I found most of directories are between 50,000 to 3,000,00.As Mikey accurately said, they are visited by each other, in other webmasters, mainly other directory owners.

Alexa in my honest opinion is absolute nonsense as it stands because the 'end user' the customer, the searcher of (the builder, the 'web designer', the 'cosmetic surgeon'), and all those who want to get listed and found in directories don't install alexa's browser bar so their traffic can't get measured. The only traffic they base their ratings on are those who DO.. If Alexa can educate the 'normal user' to use its tool it would become an excellent gauge of traffic.

It could then build on that and show us targeted traffic.

Event_King
May 1st 2008, 7:20 am
It could then build on that and show us targeted traffic.

Now that's an idea. Why aren't these services doing this already :rolleyes:

dargre
May 1st 2008, 7:28 am
yeah, the best answer you can get.
In few words... Alexa Rank measures the webmaster traffic.


Not webmaster traffic, but interested in PR and SEO.
Webmasters for example do websites, designs, scripts - really most of them don't care about PR or other serps factors.
Not even installing Alexa toolbar.
Recently ALexa claimed they improved algho, but I wouldn't be so sure, and recently they updates ranks not so often so it isn't accurate.

JamieG
May 1st 2008, 8:18 am
Not webmaster traffic, but interested in PR and SEO.
Webmasters for example do websites, designs, scripts - really most of them don't care about PR or other serps factors.The day a webmaster stops caring about serps is the day they want to seriously consider working offline as serps is everything no matter WHAT business your in.
Not even installing Alexa toolbar.This thread refers pretty much to directory owners and associated sites whether they be coders, designers or seo's, most use the alexa toolbar, to say otherwise would be naive.
Recently ALexa claimed they improved algho, but I wouldn't be so sure, and recently they updates ranks not so often so it isn't accurate.One point I agree on. They've not improved anything except the layout of the graphs etc. Until they can convince the 'ordinary' computer user, (potential buyers of any product or service) to install their browser add-on they will only ever be a useful tool to webmasters, and even then its unreliable as we all know.

At the moment its only us and amazon customers that they can possibly target.

mikey1090
May 1st 2008, 8:36 am
I thought webmaster was aka website owner. Im sure website owners care about the marketing side of their sites, more than the design in some cases.

dargre
May 1st 2008, 8:55 am
I thought webmaster was aka website owner. Im sure website owners care about the marketing side of their sites, more than the design in some cases.

mikey, come on, if for you webmaster=website owner (which is ridiculous) than why alexa is not equal in measuring all sort of websites?
CATS related website owner is same owner as directory website owner. But why there's so big difference between both owned sites in Alexa when let's say have same traffic?
You know the answer, and what I wrote seems to be right.
BTW.
Don't forget that even my or your dog may be website owner, or even your WIFE if you have one !!! :D

Jamie G - eg. as a webmaster (designer) what business I could have in checking PR and all SEO factors with alexa? I do layout, graphics, check for validation and finally deliver to client. I don't care what the owner do with his site.... What rank or PR achieve... I don't need alexa toolbar at all for my job then.

mikey1090
May 1st 2008, 9:33 am
Will other website owners visit a cats website? No.
Will other website owners visit a web directory? Yes.

Event_King
May 1st 2008, 10:12 am
Will other website owners visit a web directory? Yes.

To get the high PR links, so it's true - all they want is the free PR link.

Doh! :(

mikey1090
May 1st 2008, 10:24 am
And your point?

Directory doesnt necessarily mean free links. Most free directories dont offer high PR anyway.

dargre
May 1st 2008, 10:40 am
Will other website owners visit a cats website? No.
Will other website owners visit a web directory? Yes.

As I said: website owners is not equal to webmasters, you still miss it.
It's all concerned about toolbar. And what for is toolbar? TO check seo factors.
Not all website owners need to check those factors.

Event_King
May 1st 2008, 10:46 am
Will other website owners visit a web directory? Yes.

So they aren't visiting directories to boost Alexa ranks, more like going for the PR, as some free directories have quite good PR for raiding purposes (transfer of PR to them). Webmaster want the PR - because it gives them something to trade off of.

The title of this thread is Why most directories have good alexa rank? which is weird as no directory I've seen can claim good ranks, PR or otherwise.

Yet they are bombarded with submissions each month, why? for the Pagerank, of which Mr directory owner clearly flogs. This is an industry for the few, and one which will hopefully destroy itself with a bit of luck and Google has in a way - encouraged this activity with the introduction of PR.

mikey1090
May 1st 2008, 11:07 am
I never said they are visiting web directories to boost their alexa rank. I said webmasters are going to a directory for whatever reason and boosting its rank as they use the toolbar.

@dagre you are quite right, but its mostly webmasters that use alexa. I didnt even know about alexa until I joined DP. I just used to program in php/javascript/ajax and mess with my own sites. I didnt care about PR or anything like that as I marketed my sites with word of mouth.

JamieG
May 1st 2008, 11:50 am
@dagre you are doing well because you have adsense on your good phpld codec directory. No disrespect here but please try and keep the thread on track. Adsense has nothing to do with Alexa.

mikey1090
May 1st 2008, 11:51 am
No disrespect here but please try and keep the thread on track. Adsense has nothing to do with Alexa.

Have you seen the other threads he's posted in? :eek:

JamieG
May 1st 2008, 12:16 pm
Have you seen the other threads he's posted in? :eek:lol, yep I just sent him a p.m welcoming him to the wonderful world of DP. :D

MuabeIndia
May 1st 2008, 12:29 pm
Thank you brothers for welcalling me!

hyper
May 1st 2008, 1:37 pm
Thank you brothers for welcalling me!

yes, we do use skype as well :D

Toolz
May 1st 2008, 4:26 pm
Webmaster traffic is huge for any decent directory, they do tend to look at the page where their link should appear also. But generally they just come and submit a link and go.

nonyf
May 4th 2008, 7:16 am
Really interesting... Does Alexa traffic or traffic in general impact your Google rankings? Also, I'm not that familiar with Alexa and although I know traffic is important to alexa rank, why is the alexa rank important to begin with; what's Alexa used for? Thanks!

mikey1090
May 4th 2008, 7:21 am
No. Alexa and google are not realted at all.