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Adamwestrop
Apr 29th 2008, 10:21 am
Hi guys,
A general question...Is PR actually important for SERPS? Everyone seems obsessed about high PR and getting links from high PR sites...But if I do searches for some competitive keywords...It is often the lower PR sites which rank better?
Should I not focus on the number of links?
Thanks
Adam
glendowney
Apr 29th 2008, 10:23 am
For ranking high in the search engines you want to get high, quality links, try and get some with PR. The key to getting a good SERP is the number of links so yes focus on the link building.
Many people are obsessed with high PR because they can sell links, blog posts etc on their sites and make some good money.
ryan_uk
Apr 29th 2008, 10:30 am
Focus on building a quality site which Google can trust then you'll rank high. If you have that kind of website, then even new pages will rank well. Take a look at BBC News. OK, the site has been around a long time but check out how quickly it ranks well even for new stories, because it's a site trusted by Google.
Be careful with link build. Think about ways to get a quality backlink, maybe on a popular blog or news site, for your niche rather than spending time getting 10 useless links. For example, if your niche is tech related then getting a mention on www.theregister.co.uk would do you no harm whatsoever!
ssandecki
Apr 29th 2008, 10:34 am
Simple to answer this one, Pagerank is a secondary factor when it comes to search results. Pagerank is used to give value to a specific web page (not an entire site). Now, these values can be used when determining which site in search results has the higher quality backlinks, but don't forget beyond backlinks many other factors are used to determine search results. Your best bet is to try and gain quality relevant backlinks to boost your SERPs, your Pagerank will naturally rise. Also, quality unique content is a great way to build links since the more useful the content the more likely visitors are to link back to it at an external source.
allout
Apr 29th 2008, 10:36 am
It means very little in the SERPs. Here is a good article that explains the Importance of Google PR (http://seo08.com/2008/02/29/google-pr-is-it-important/). Basically selling advertising is the main use of PR.
markeh
Apr 29th 2008, 10:37 am
I always find good links with good quality sites help with traffic and page rank
SubmitShop
Apr 29th 2008, 10:43 am
PR is good tool for link exchange, link seller and buyers. For ranking better get links from quality relevant site.
aldin
Apr 29th 2008, 10:59 am
PR is very important but it is used to order the results.
Before to be ordered, the results have to be built, and RELEVANCE is the key.
Trust is also important, maybe more important than PR, but after trust, comes the PR.
Since PR comes with backlinks you have just to please to your readers and specially those that are webmasters! ;)
kingofsanda
Apr 29th 2008, 11:05 am
I agree with SubmitShop, pr is only good for people who buy and trade links.
If you are trying to improve your serp you should forget about pr and build
high quality relevant links. If you are trying to improve your pr you should
try to get backlinks from websites with a high pr.
doogers
Apr 29th 2008, 11:15 am
Don't worry about PR. It is nice to see the green bar increase but I would work on Links and content.
corb
Apr 29th 2008, 11:26 am
It depends on the kind of buisness/website you're operating. My webpage doesn't really utilize google (I havn't even submitted my site to dmoz), so getting google results is more of a pat on the back. so PR is nice, but it's not necessary
Lovely
Apr 29th 2008, 11:29 am
PR is not important as SERP, if you want to increase your SERP you have start building relevant links for your site.
godsofchaos
Apr 29th 2008, 11:36 am
Not true. I don't sell or buy links, but PR is still very important to me. But yes it is a fact that not only PR determines Serp results. If you have a good quality site then PR will come to you automatically cause people will link you voluntarily. Remember what google told you, ..."Make a website for the people who visits you, and not for the search engines''... just follow that and everything will fall in the right place for you. Best of luck.
Sem-Advance
Apr 29th 2008, 11:39 am
Hi guys,
Should I not focus on the number of links?
Thanks
Adam
Number of links means diddly..
I can beat most sites rankings with a Yahoo directory link and a few others from highly relevant websites and paid directories. ;)
As with anything in life
Quality over Quantity...................
:)
aldin
Apr 29th 2008, 11:56 am
PR is not important as SERP, if you want to increase your SERP you have start building relevant links for your site.
Of course, but PR = links. I suppose this is a joke :)
Sem-Advance
Apr 29th 2008, 12:06 pm
Of course, but PR = links. I suppose this is a joke :)
You have the equation wrong
its
links = PR
And seriously the last time I worried about PR was 2005
:)
njoker555
Apr 29th 2008, 12:22 pm
PR = Useless
because google just went against their own guidelines from just a year ago when they looked at just backlinks - now they penalize sites that sell links lol
just work on your backlinks - SERPs change more often than PR so they are not related
frncsl.patterson
Apr 29th 2008, 1:33 pm
PR "is" important.
w3bmaster
Apr 29th 2008, 1:43 pm
Simply NO PR is worthless is just a number
High pr doesn't mean high Rankings
High Rankings can mean high PR (usualy top sites have backlinks but not only backlinks get top serpos others factors like Content age are involved)
angilina
Apr 29th 2008, 1:45 pm
Concentrate on getting quality relevant back links and your search result ranking will improve for sure.
dbinto
Apr 29th 2008, 2:18 pm
Number of links means diddly..
I can beat most sites rankings with a Yahoo directory link and a few others from highly relevant websites and paid directories. ;)
As with anything in life
Quality over Quantity...................
:)
Relevant link is the key for SERPs. Also getting links from old well established websites that relevant content would be helpful.
rcj662
Apr 29th 2008, 2:18 pm
Serps is most important Pr is bragging rights. If site has pr 3 and is listed better than pr 5 site for terms i want the pr 3 site
edual200
Apr 29th 2008, 3:25 pm
i mainly link to my site with anchor text=my name as its mainly blog post.
100% of the links to my site come from sites that are not relevant at all.
yet income continues to grow on a daily basis.
To me PR does matter more then anything, i sell no links and have no plans on ever selling any.
More pr= more indexed pages, i dont even care about serps as that goes up with pr not the other way around. 3 month old site has 80k indexed pages and more everyday.
dalem
Apr 29th 2008, 3:54 pm
Hi guys,
A general question...Is PR actually important for SERPS? Everyone seems obsessed about high PR and getting links from high PR sites...But if I do searches for some competitive keywords...It is often the lower PR sites which rank better?
Should I not focus on the number of links?
Thanks
Adam
I just love all the theories going around about PR Backlinks and all the rest of it. So I would just like to tell you about one of my websites that made Page one on Google, Page two on MSN and Yahoo for a very competitive keyword "Antiscam" without any PR or Backlinks !
I ran an Antiscam website for several months covering things like the Russian bride, Nigerian scammers, Online scams etc. etc.
I didn't have any backlinks or PR, I started the site from nothing and yet reached the first and second pages of the three major search engines.
I didn't know about PR or backlinks and never thought too much about them.
When I first made the site I submitted a site map to Google and Yahoo and then concentrated on content.
I am convinced it was the way I SEO'd the site, Keyword density, Keywords in body text, Alt tags, plenty of good content that got me those results.
It's only my opinion but forget PR and stop chasing that PR rainbow, it means nothing, if you have a good site with plenty of interesting, informative content you will make it.
I stopped thinking PR long ago.
dalem
Sem-Advance
Apr 29th 2008, 4:01 pm
I stopped thinking PR long ago.
dalem
Nice story.....
Here is how to tell if PR is important.
Go to the bank and sit down with the branch manager...explain your site has PageRank whatever and that as such you need a loan so you can make your site PR even better.......
When the banker looks at you with a blank stare and the word no forming on his lips.... you will instantly learn that PR only matters to people who like warm fuzzy feelings one can get from a green ingot image that is not factual......
;)
I am thinking I should start a website for PR junkies where they can be rehabilitated into earning revenues without fanatical obsession over an imaginary rating scale.........
www.pranon.com????
:D
dalem
Apr 29th 2008, 4:04 pm
Nice story but true....
I am thinking I should start a website for PR junkies where they can be rehabilitated into earning revenues without fanatical obsession over an imaginary rating scale.........
Loud applause and big grin........:D
redz
Apr 29th 2008, 5:40 pm
I have not looked at pagerank for about 5 months now, it stopped concerning me, I rather concentrate on traffic :D.
indyonline
Apr 29th 2008, 5:51 pm
No it is not. There was update today and all my sites went up but they still have same search results.
movidalatina
Apr 29th 2008, 6:16 pm
basically PR means nothing.
as told by the creator of Google
Webmaster Central (http://webmasterradio.fm) interview in webmaster radio
deanfromfrog
Apr 29th 2008, 6:19 pm
To me PR is fairly important as many webmasters regard PR as the only factor in link exchanging, and when trying to boost my SERPs link exchanges are key so it all comes back to the pesky PR in the end :)
Saying that I cant remember the last time I bothered to gain a new link exchange :P
deanfromfrog
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