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moker
Apr 20th 2008, 11:03 am
Hello everybody,

I am busy with a project for a client that needs a logo for a Truck website.

The logo must contain a truck in a professional and creative way just like for example the 2 pictures below:
http://www.thelogofactory.com/logo_design_galleries/full_size/tlf704.jpg
http://www.trucksystem.com/Sites/uppercanada/graphics/truck_logo_left.gif


Website Name: Trucks Website

(the word "Website" is a development name so the contest winner MUST change the name "Website" to our original name which I will give when you are the winner offcourse)


48 hour contest
Contest Money: 60$ via PayPal


Thanks!

jigu
Apr 20th 2008, 12:09 pm
This is my try. everything is changeable.
http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk74/jigu10/truck.jpg

DesignWork
Apr 20th 2008, 12:42 pm
What size you want it?

scorpionagency
Apr 20th 2008, 1:33 pm
Here's my shot at it - 100% Vector - Original -
I sketched this one using a Graphics tablet along with my Vector software to get a more detailed result :)

http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t1-sample.png

I can still add allot more detail to it, still keeping it 100% vector if you like. Just let me know :)

- Feedback Appreciated -

Creations4You
Apr 20th 2008, 1:37 pm
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/4011/trucklogogu7.png

Heres my try. Feedback please :)

By the way everything is changeable

Ariestoteles
Apr 20th 2008, 1:43 pm
http://ariestodesign.com/mockup/truck.png

anidesign
Apr 20th 2008, 3:27 pm
Feedback appreciated.
http://www.ani-design.com/folio/truck.jpg

scorpionagency
Apr 20th 2008, 4:50 pm
I went ahead & added more detail. Bellow are Both versions side by side so you can see the difference, as well as some color options. - still 100% Vector

http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t1-sample.png http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t2-sample.png
http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t3-sample.png

- Feedback Appreciated -

nobodynowhere
Apr 20th 2008, 5:12 pm
First Try:

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/4/20/f_truck1m_65682ce.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/4/20/f_truck1m_65682ce.jpg&srv=img32)

Second Try:

http://img32.picoodle.com/img/img32/4/4/20/f_truck2m_5a9ee97.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/4/4/20/f_truck2m_5a9ee97.jpg&srv=img32)


Everything is changeable!

offiri0
Apr 21st 2008, 3:46 am
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6586/truckuh2.gif

magicboy
Apr 21st 2008, 9:15 am
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/4/21/f_TRUCKLOGOm_afa2d27.gif

Ariestoteles
Apr 22nd 2008, 10:13 am
http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/4/21/f_TRUCKLOGOm_afa2d27.gif


Hi boy, if you need Vector file from my design, i will give you too.
I think i have secret admirer


Here's my original design

http://ariestodesign.com/mockup/truck.png

magicboy
Apr 22nd 2008, 10:20 am
Ariestoteles, My design is different and unique, if someone used three cars why i can't use three?

scorpionagency
Apr 22nd 2008, 10:35 am
Contest started Sun. April 20th 10:03 A.M according to the forum time stamp. It is now Tue. April 22nd 9:35 A.M according to the forum time stamp. We are at the 48 hour point the contest was listed to run & have had NO feedback or contact from the CH.

I am hoping all the hours I put into illustrating wasn't for nothing :(

DaveyBoy
Apr 22nd 2008, 10:38 am
Good portfolio fodder if nothing else mate :) Never gonna go to waste!

48 hours is general, not exact - hopefully the CH will just come and pick a winner! :)

scorpionagency
Apr 22nd 2008, 10:42 am
I totally agree, it will look good in my portfolio as well as be a prize piece for a future prospect if not purchased in this contest :)

the CH's last login time was "Last Activity: Today 6:57 am" so At least they are still active users :)

rkquest
Apr 22nd 2008, 5:33 pm
First of all, I'm not joining this contest. I just found something interesting.

Here's a nice formula for you all. :)

This...

http://ariestodesign.com/mockup/truck.png

combined with this...

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/6586/truckuh2.gif

results to this...

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/4/4/21/f_TRUCKLOGOm_afa2d27.gif

Don't you guys agree? LOL

Peace.

scorpionagency
Apr 22nd 2008, 5:38 pm
HA HA, Looks like the truck is an exact copy with an added trailer & then duplicated / color changed to match the concept with 3 trucks.. How funny

Are those free Stock trucks both designers used or did a designer actually copy another's & post it in the same thread not expecting to get caught? LOL

if there was an emicon rolling on the floor laughing I would use it here (ROTFL) :D

rkquest
Apr 22nd 2008, 5:40 pm
^ That we're not sure. I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I just found it quite funny. :p

mitcharr
Apr 22nd 2008, 5:54 pm
Hahah lol, magic boy seems to be copying a few peoples designs lately.

moker
Apr 22nd 2008, 6:19 pm
No winner chosen. This contest has been closed!!!

Reason: My client wants something else. We will open a new contest as soon as possible.

Sorry, good luck next time.

scorpionagency
Apr 22nd 2008, 6:27 pm
umm, maybe if you & your client left feedback the designers could have met your requirements. Try feedback next time, I'm sure you'll get better results & less frustrated designers!

rkquest
Apr 22nd 2008, 7:16 pm
umm, maybe if you & your client left feedback the designers could have met your requirements. Try feedback next time, I'm sure you'll get better results & less frustrated designers!

Yup. I wouldn't be surprised if next time he holds another contest no one would participate. :)

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:19 am
scorpionagency, First of all let have a look at your work, it's crap, and clipart. I bought an image from Fotolia and coloured it. Show us where you can download it for free. Seems you are using free cliparts in your logos.

mitcharr, Hahah lol, magic boy seems to be copying a few peoples designs lately.

Please, show us the proofs. If you have no facts about this then you just showing your unprofessionality.

mitcharr
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:28 am
Are you serious,

Firstly, Scorpian Agency draws all his own work, and its not crap.

Magicboy, You used the exact layout in Aries design, and you used the exact same truck as offirio (basically).

As well as in the other thread, your copied Aries design almost exactly.

You can keep copying if you really want, but you will never win a contest that way, and you will lose all respect as a designer.

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:37 am
mitcharr, It is same, but i didn't know that offirio will be using it. And that image is not a property of one person because it's available on stock photos websites.


As well as in the other thread, your copied Aries design almost exactly.
There is no such rule that designers cannot get inspired by other designers.

You can keep copying if you really want, but you will never win a contest that way, and you will lose all respect as a designer.
Copying? That is a style of Aries, to use premade templates with free cliparts that are available for free download and is not actually his concept.

rkquest
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:39 am
I think DP should have a rule in this forum that if your going to hold a contest, you must set a time and price. At the end of the time you set, you must pick a winner out of all those who joined and pay the price you first mentioned. Or maybe make that rule applicable to contest threads with more than 5 (or other numbers) entries.

I mean it's kinda unfair to those who joined this contest, especially those who took time to make vector images of a truck. It takes a while to finish those kind of images.

Ariestoteles
Apr 23rd 2008, 1:47 am
mitcharr, It is same, but i didn't know that offirio will be using it. And that image is not a property of one person because it's available on stock photos websites.


There is no such rule that designers cannot get inspired by other designers.


Copying? That is a style of Aries, to use premade templates with free cliparts that are available for free download and is not actually his concept.

I think u're start the war.. I'm In!!!

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 2:18 am
Ariestoteles, See in another thread who really started it and don't tell that i copied your work, because you know that i made it in photoshop myself with another font and different concept.

mitcharr
Apr 23rd 2008, 2:23 am
Magicboy you don't need to put other people down to justify your argument.

moker
Apr 23rd 2008, 2:37 am
Well sorry. But still all your work is good for 1) Experience, 2) to add to your portfolio.




I think DP should have a rule in this forum that if your going to hold a contest, you must set a time and price. At the end of the time you set, you must pick a winner out of all those who joined and pay the price you first mentioned. Or maybe make that rule applicable to contest threads with more than 5 (or other numbers) entries.

I mean it's kinda unfair to those who joined this contest, especially those who took time to make vector images of a truck. It takes a while to finish those kind of images.

watari
Apr 23rd 2008, 4:44 am
Ariestoteles, See in another thread who really started it and don't tell that i copied your work, because you know that i made it in photoshop myself with another font and different concept.

i think its better you make new account with name "copyboy"
beside aries, you also copied my work in this thread :
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=806238&page=2 :mad:

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 5:48 am
i think its better you make new account with name "copyboy"
beside aries, you also copied my work in this thread :
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showt...=806238&page=2


watari, You used some kind of clipart or icon in your logotype, I made and unique symbol so what we are talking about?

Also that gives the right to say that you copied design from the contestants surenther. His work is on a page 1 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=806238

I think it would be better for you to create a new account with name "copywatari" :)

Malatya
Apr 23rd 2008, 6:00 am
really good works on contest my friends.i am looking forward to see the winner.) Good luck.

watari
Apr 23rd 2008, 7:40 am
watari, You used some kind of clipart or icon in your logotype, I made and unique symbol so what we are talking about?

Also that gives the right to say that you copied design from the contestants surenther. His work is on a page 1 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=806238

I think it would be better for you to create a new account with name "copywatari" :)

hei copyboy ...
in contest i will never summit my entry if there is other designer summit the design first and my entry is same idea with it. in filmonic contest, i have post my design in post #7 before surenther. only i have delete it since i have post the updated entry.
and now you can stop bullshit with your argumen.

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 9:21 am
hei copyboy ...
in contest i will never summit my entry if there is other designer summit the design first and my entry is same idea with it. in filmonic contest, i have post my design in post #7 before surenther. only i have delete it since i have post the updated entry.
and now you can stop bullshit with your argumen.

Thats' you tell us the real bullshit. I put the symbol of movie on left which is not your idea, putting symbol on left and text on right isn't your idea, thats how all members create logos. Putting letters on symbol is not your idea, i had on it other symbolic so you better learn alphabet, copytari.

DaveyBoy
Apr 23rd 2008, 9:50 am
Placement of elements isn't the point - it's the copying of those elements that is annoying everybody.

You could place it in 100 different ways if you wanted, but the actual parts of the designs are copied.

It doesn't matter if there are subtle differences between designs - us seasoned designers know when somebody is copying or not, so please don't insult our intelligence any further.

That's my last word on this very boring subject :)

scorpionagency
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:04 am
scorpionagency, First of all let have a look at your work, it's crap, and clipart. I bought an image from Fotolia and coloured it. Show us where you can download it for free. Seems you are using free cliparts in your logos.

mitcharr,

Please, show us the proofs. If you have no facts about this then you just showing your unprofessionality.

Most of the regular designers know me here & I don't need to prove myself anymore. However, seeing that you seem to be new to this field & felt the urge question my abilities, I've provided the process & software used below.

While the below design took me ruffly 3-4 hours to do & disappointed me when the contest was canceled without feedback. It will look great in my portfolio & be promising for a future prospect seeing that I Own ALL copyrights to it :) I have n o need for free clip art when I have the skills to design everything myself!

This is how a Genuine designer works from scratch

http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t4-sample.png
http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t3-sample.png

I've been designing commercially for almost 3 years now :) These contests I do in my spare time for added public relations.

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:20 am
Placement of elements isn't the point - it's the copying of those elements that is annoying everybody.
Sure, but he uses cliparts at his works so what to say.. My Filmonic logo is unique and his logo is clipart, or clipart on which he added some text. I wish you all the best but guys like him which like to critic others of such beautiful work they did let everyone to see that they are nervous because they can lost, because some guy did better than he did. :)

DaveyBoy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:25 am
These guys do not use clipart - just because you can't draw this kind of thing yourself, you assume the other hard-working designers must also cheat? hah.

Well, yours wasn't better to the contest holder because Watari won. So, that is a bit redundant.

In the time you take to argue with members about logos, you could learn how to design as well as them all. :)

hillord
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:27 am
No winner chosen. This contest has been closed!!!

Reason: My client wants something else. We will open a new contest as soon as possible.

Sorry, good luck next time.

Don't open a contest unless you are absolutely sure. you're wasting people time and effort.

watari
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:32 am
just like scorpion. we dont need clipart.
here is the screenshot and if you want the image, i can sent it to you.
but i dont know you can use it or not cause i made in CorelDraw.

http://fenixupload.com/files/hsnp3nhavmokvgbfygxb.png (http://fenixupload.com/)

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:39 am
These guys do not use clipart

Hah, Wow, you saw how this guys do it, that's perfect. Proove it

DaveyBoy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:41 am
Dude, can't you view their proof? They are showing you a step-by-step process to how they created it? If that isn't convincing you then I dunno what will lol.

This IS my final word on it : Unbelivable.

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:45 am
watari, And, you gave your file to me that's why you think I used your symbolic or what? That movie symbol is not your property, Ok? On your symbolic you have some text symbol, so what makes it unique and only your concept is only that letters and nothing more. But one thing will make it your property, by adding (c)watari text on each pixel!

scorpionagency
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:48 am
Hah, Wow, you saw how this guys do it, that's perfect. Proove it
Don't be mad that people pointed out you using globally distributed clip art for a company's logo that wanted something unique. When millions can use the same clipart (Especially when another designer submits the same on in the same contest as you did) "which happened". That just shows how UN-unique & UN-creative it really is.

My only suggestion is that you practice designing from scratch & stop buying clip art. It's the only way you'll start getting good.

I wish you Luck!

Did my below post not clear anything up as far as how I do things?



Most of the regular designers know me here & I don't need to prove myself anymore. However, seeing that you seem to be new to this field & felt the urge question my abilities, I've provided the process & software used below.

While the below design took me ruffly 3-4 hours to do & disappointed me when the contest was canceled without feedback. It will look great in my portfolio & be promising for a future prospect seeing that I Own ALL copyrights to it :) I have n o need for free clip art when I have the skills to design everything myself!

This is how a Genuine designer works from scratch

http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t4-sample.png
http://www.scorpionagency.com/trash_files/april/t3-sample.png

I've been designing commercially for almost 3 years now :) These contests I do in my spare time for added public relations.

scorpionagency
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:49 am
Umm, why are you now posting about a totally different contest? this is a truck design contest, you should debate the Filomic contest on the Filmonic thread !

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:50 am
DaveyBoy, the picture we see watari uploaded he showed us the coreldraw file. You can find many places where you can download such vector images and say: Look, i did that illustration step by step by myself (and in the reality you cutted all layers to make people believe that it's your work

DaveyBoy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:52 am
Watari has made several mascots and heavily-graphical logos to very specific briefs in the past for myself and my clients. All excellent and they couldn't possibly be clip art as they are to detailed specifications.

I get sick of two-bob chancers like you trying to make quick bucks and putting people down in the process.

Gonna go and work now.

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:56 am
scorpionagency,

Don't be mad that people pointed out you using globally distributed clip art for a company's logo that wanted something unique.

You are saying this because you full of that and really use cliparts?

I seen few days ago your truck at Stock Photos website. What is that copying? Copying is bad thing, scorpionagency !:)

My only suggestion is that you practice designing from scratch & stop buying clip art. It's the only way you'll start getting good.

I wish you Luck!

I do designs from scratch, for example filmonic.

Did my below post not clear anything up as far as how I do things?

Few days ago I saw that truck on some website.

Good Luck!

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 11:59 am
I get sick of two-bob chancers

You and who else?:)

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:00 pm
Watari has made several mascots and heavily-graphical logos to very specific briefs in the past for myself and my clients.

I really don't care about that. Good for him and for you.

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:01 pm
Gonna go and work now.

Well, we already have seen your work - posting bullshit on DP

scorpionagency
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:02 pm
can you show me where my copyrighted truck is being used so I can file a DMCA / Copyright infringement please? Post the link, that's all I need to file charges :)

xaralee
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:03 pm
Why don't you prove yourself that you are a designer,Mr.Magic ?
Show us your desktop screenshot,your PC,your pen tablet and even your face !

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:15 pm
xaralee, Pen tablet?)) I don't need it!) There are no normatives to be calles as a designer. In my stationary computer desktop is filled of .bmp, .jpg and .gif files.

scorpionagency, I will not remember the place i've seen it, i just argume facts that you might drawed from it.

visnu
Apr 23rd 2008, 12:29 pm
xaralee, Pen tablet?)) I don't need it!) There are no normatives to be calles as a designer. In my stationary computer desktop is filled of .bmp, .jpg and .gif files.

scorpionagency, I will not remember the place i've seen it, i just argume facts that you might drawed from it.

If you have proof, tell us here. No need to remember, any browser have history. Ask me if you dont understand how to use browser. U doing bad things on several contests here, and u judge some great talented designer with BS thing

magicboy
Apr 23rd 2008, 1:51 pm
U doing bad things on several contests here, and u judge some great talented designer with BS thing

But then why they are judging me? And all that for my hard work :( I'ts a question of honour of all beginners in design, to not give senior designers to press on us :)

xpressions
Apr 23rd 2008, 2:28 pm
Magicboy: At this point you will probably do yourself a favor by not saying anything further because it doesn't matter any longer since your credibility is in question. As stated earlier, instead of arguing it back and forth, just continue designing and participating and don't burn bridges. If you see a concept is already on the table, don't submit a design that is similar or borrows elements from another designer, unless the contest holder's opening post has very specific requirements.

rileycoyote
Apr 23rd 2008, 6:54 pm
Magicboy: At this point you will probably do yourself a favor by not saying anything further because it doesn't matter any longer since your credibility is in question. As stated earlier, instead of arguing it back and forth, just continue designing and participating and don't burn bridges. If you see a concept is already on the table, don't submit a design that is similar or borrows elements from another designer, unless the contest holder's opening post has very specific requirements.

As a contest holder myself, I could not agree more!

CollyMellon
Apr 23rd 2008, 7:06 pm
Wasn't going to say anything but..

Scorpionagency that is great the work you did on that truck and I would be fumming to not receive feedback for work that takes such a long time.

MajicKid \ boy \ whatever, chill mate calm yourself down.

To the contest holder - your joking? you start a contest, people spend hours doing work and you say contest over with no feedback? thats insulting and maybe you should find out what your client wants before getting people to spend hours on designs?