Beware of 'Paid' Hand Submission Directory Services

[czarkenneth]

I recently booked & paid for a service from a guy well known on this & other forums.
I paid for 100 submissions for $14.00, he submitted to 50, at most.
I charged back & he did settle quickly, so I wont say his name, but beware.

[Obelia]

I paid for 100 submissions for $14.00, he submitted to 50, at most.

How did you find this out? The trouble is, directories don't always send out confirmation emails. Did you ask the directory owners themselves?

[dvduval]

I usually make them give a link to the page for the category they are submitting to.

[jg123]

It is hard to prove....I guess you gotta have faith.

[iowadawg]

Will keep this in mind, according to the OP, if not satisfied, do a chargeback at once.
Not a good way if that is what you did to do business with anyone.
Did you email him?
Did you try to work it out with him?
For if you just did a chargeback without the above, that is bad practice.

[Tekntoant]

I know who he is talking about. I never got a report that I was promised so I guess this is why. No biggy it was only $14 but still.....

[obenix]

Who are we talking about? I would really like to hear it the other side's story.

[wazimm]

sometimes I wonder how hand directory submission services make a profit by charging a customer only $14 for submitting to 100 directories. It takes me hours to hand submit to 100 directories.

[Old Welsh Guy]

Well I have used someone on this forum and they were superb. The confirmations rolled in, the excel spread sheet was delivered within a day or two. I have absolutely no complaints with the guy I used.

I have to say that to make a post about someone and not name them is bad form really. You made a charge back (did you speak to the guy first)? Then the attitude your showing is really I'm ok so sod you jack! :(

Not having a go but all you have really succeeed in achieveing is to cast suspicion on those on this forum who carry out a good service.

[Old Welsh Guy]

sometimes I wonder how hand directory submission services make a profit by charging a customer only $14 for submitting to 100 directories.


Cost of living I guess. Tonight we stayed in my Daughter (6yr old) My wife, and myself. We ordered in some Pizza (£15) had some nice wine (2X£8) also had a table nibble picnic that came to about £15. so all in all out quiet night in cast about £50.

In may areas of the world this would buy you a night in a top hotel with a fairly decent hooker. Not quite sure my wife and child would have approved though ;) .

The point is that cost of living is what it is all about. To someone who is living in abackwater in some third world area, or to a 15 year old kid someplace, it is easy money and better than comparable jobs locally.

[mdvaldosta]

In India $14 is probably a full days pay.

[Old Welsh Guy]

In India $14 is probably a full days pay.

Now why couldn't I have just said that, instead of ramling. Must be the two bottles of £8 wine LOL

[kausik]

for $14 you charged him back ? He had 50 submissions already.

[browntwn]

I often tell my wife to stop letting me post, when the 1st bottle is done. Of course, she is watching some chick flick and I am still posting dumb shit online.

Now why couldn't I have just said that, instead of ramling. Must be the two bottles of £8 wine LOL

[daboss]

if you paid by paypal, i'd be really surprised if you can get your money back... since they don't accepts chargebacks on services (i.e. non tangible goods)... so i'm a little suspicious of your story.

[iowadawg]

I often tell my wife to stop letting me post, when the 1st bottle is done. Of course, she is watching some chick flick and I am still posting dumb shit online.
That our wives are watching chick flicks whilst we have a little nip while surfing the net and posting in forums.
Let's take back our lives men!
Take that bottle, go in and turn off the chick flick and put in a good violent movie, and tell wife, here, help me drink this while the two of us cuddle up and watch the funny antics of Jackie Chan and company.

Or not@!

[an0n]

I often tell my wife to stop letting me post, when the 1st bottle is done. Of course, she is watching some chick flick and I am still posting dumb shit online.
hahahaha

:p

[eddy2099]

I think you should rather work with the submitter before doing any chargeback. $14 for 100 submission is already a discount and if he did 50 already, I doubt he would be running away with your money, there might be something which crop up which prevented him from continuing.

If you do want to get your money back then don't go for the free meal and request for everything back, pay him for what he has done.

[Old Welsh Guy]

Great point Eddy. It is important that you communicate with the people you contract, as not to do so can cause all sorts of misunderstandings.

[projectw3]

Can't help but feel a little sorry for the poor chap who offered the service at $14. At that price, even 50 submissions is a bargain. That works out to be about 0.28/submission. Hand submission is an extremely time-consuming process and I find it hard to swallow the fact that after going through that gruelling process, he's left unpaid. :(

[xfairguy]

Probably it is not totallly manual submission, if you use some software to fill forms it can be done faster but it is still worth 14 $ even for only 50 directories.

[sadcox66]

In India $14 is probably a full days pay.
From what I understand - a family can eat for a $1 a day (breakfast +lunch +dinner)
So that would be 14 days of full meals :)

Sorry no red wine or gray poupon included

[alfredo]

I recently booked & paid for a service from a guy well known on this & other forums.
I paid for 100 submissions for $14.00, he submitted to 50, at most.
I charged back & he did settle quickly, so I wont say his name, but beware.


Hi,

I don't know if this person is talking about me, perhaps I'm not the only one offering manual directory submissions for $14 a 100 here. Also user says a guy well known on this & other forums , I'm a bit known here, but not in other forums.

Anyway I feel touched by this post and have chosen to make a point.

If this is not related to me, I'm sorry, editors: feel free to delete this post.

Coincidentally I had my first paypal dispute some days ago. A user opened a dispute out of the blue without prior notice to me.

Before the dispute I had the following email exchange with that user:



Hi,


Sending report.

Thanks,


Alfredo

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Hi,

Thanks but I have only received a confirmation from 15 or so sites?

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Hi,

I used admin@...............com

I did all the submissions today so you'll receive some more confirmation emails in the following hours/days.

One thing, you won't receive an email for every directory where I submitted.

Some emails may end up in your junk/trash folder, some may be stopped by spam filters.

If number of emails stays below 20 please let me know and I'll do 50 more submission for free, I'd like you to be happy with the service.

Thanks,


Alfredo
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Then, out of the blue I receive a paypal dispute notification! My reaction goes below:

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Hi,

Why did you resort to opening a paypal dispute? You could have contacted me first, I would have done more submissions or refund you the money in full.

I'm really sorry about this situation, if possible please contact me and explain why you decided to go this way.

I'm an honest merchant, and would have done anything within my reach to solve this issue.

I don't understand what was wrong with your submissions, but wanting to make things clear.

Waiting for your reply,


Alfredo

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Have never heard of him again till now.

I decided to immediately refund the user. This was the fastest option as I didn't want to argue over $14. I considered I had done my best so there was no other thing to do left on my part.

I don't think this user is acting in bad faith, probably he thought "100 directory submissions" meant 100 confirmation emails, perhaps he even thought he was going to get a 100 out 100 approval rate.

I can provide screenshots of my email account, paypal dispute, and whatever you feel suitable to prove my point strong.


I've been doing biz here for 6 months now, started two really successful threads offering my services, have an itrade of 40, have a nice paypal score (100+), been paid through moneybookers, westernunion, and moneygram too and everything went smooth, and ok I think this is enough.

Thanks a lot for reading this,


ALFREDO

[alfredo]

I know who he is talking about. I never got a report that I was promised so I guess this is why. No biggy it was only $14 but still.....


Don't know if you talking about me, sorry if I'm overreacting, here goes a screenshot of my gmail, can resend report if you wish.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5329/teknotant2ka.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[alfredo]

sometimes I wonder how hand directory submission services make a profit by charging a customer only $14 for submitting to 100 directories. It takes me hours to hand submit to 100 directories.

Practice Makes Perfect :)

[alfredo]

Who are we talking about? I would really like to hear it the other side's story.


Couple posts above this one, you can find the other side of the story.
Thanks for asking.

[daboss]

alfredo did work for me before... excellent work and response... highly recommended...

[alfredo]

alfredo did work for me before... excellent work and response... highly recommended...


Thanks for your positive feedback! :D

[Tekntoant]

Don't know if you talking about me, sorry if I'm overreacting, here goes a screenshot of my gmail, can resend report if you wish.

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/5329/teknotant2ka.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


I seriously apologize, but I never got the Email so can you resend it please? For everyone’s info, I was receiving conformation emails form directories a day before he said he would start the service for me. You don’t understand how bad I feel about calling you out man. Sorry about the misunderstanding, and you have every right to defend yourself/Rep..

[alfredo]

I seriously apologize, but I never got the Email so can you resend it please? For everyone’s info, I was receiving conformation emails form directories a day before he said he would start the service for me. You don’t understand how bad I feel about calling you out man. Sorry about the misunderstanding, and you have every right to defend yourself/Rep..


Thanks a lot man for replying to this with a clarification. No problem, friends as usual, I felt attacked so I reacted.

Friends as usual :D :D :D

[Ajeet]

What just happened here: A says B is a crook. B says no. A says right, sorry, ok I will rep you. B has no problem and says A is a friend and grins violently three times!

[Old Welsh Guy]

Actually Ajeet, the thread was started by A, B concurred with A, C felt agreived so posted a rebuttle, B & C made up, But the original protagonist is amazingly conspicuous by their absense. WHich is a shame as unless they come forward sometime soon to comment, I fear they will be sent to red rep hell. :)

[Ajeet]

I fear they will be sent to red rep hell. :)

Aah, the red rep! The weapon of the valiant. The weapon that attacks the adversary and also leaves a minor scar on you.

[MattUK]

I've been very happy with the submission services I've used on DP.
I guess the moral of this story is to contact the vendor, chargebacks and negative posts on forums can severely damage peoples business.

[Old Welsh Guy]

When did Shawn bring in the -1 cost for red repping? Bloody good idea if you ask me. :)

[MattUK]

When did Shawn bring in the -1 cost for red repping? Bloody good idea if you ask me. :)
A couple of weeks ago I think. I agree, hopefully it'll mean red-reps are deserved rather than a vendetta!

[Old Welsh Guy]

I refer back to when I said that forum voting is very akin to trust rank. Now if you vote for a bad neighbourhood you get punished. ;)

[mad4]

A point to note is that 100 submissions certainly doesn't mean 100 confirmation emails.

[Old Welsh Guy]

Absolutely Mad4 . Within hours of my order being placed, I received lots of confirmation emails, and they kept counting. I also received the Spreadsheet within 2 days. Have I checked? NO , WHY? Because I know that the guy has earned his money. Daily we receive emails about acceptance. If I received 20 confirmations for $14 then I wouldn't waste my time checking up.

[MattUK]

Exactly, not all directories send confirmations anyway.

[czarkenneth]

I started this post.
I want to make a few points -
1 / If I go to any trader & pay $14.00 for 100 of any item I expect 100 of that item, not 50!
2 / Though the trader, in this case, was & is an honest one, he is inefficient & I did contact him on this.
3 / I have had bad experience with dishonest traders using paypal & so I am extremely cautious to the point of paranoia, I guess. Even for $1, let alone $14.00.
4 / I will pay this trader $7.00 for the work he has proven he did.
Ends.

[alfredo]

I started this post.
I want to make a few points -
1 / If I go to any trader & pay $14.00 for 100 of any item I expect 100 of that item, not 50!
2 / Though the trader, in this case, was & is an honest one, he is inefficient & I did contact him on this.
3 / I have had bad experience with dishonest traders using paypal & so I am extremely cautious to the point of paranoia, I guess. Even for $1, let alone $14.00.
4 / I will pay this trader $7.00 for the work he has proven he did.
Ends.

My friend,

No need to send $7. The problem is over. No grudge on my part. :)

[Old Welsh Guy]

Ends as in we are no longer allowed to discuss this ;)

One question though, has this trader admitted he only submitted you to 50 places, or is this your assumption based on the number of confirmations? I am NOT taking sides here, I am just interested in knowing. If the guy has told you he has only done half of the work, then fine agree and pay him half. That said, I would not pay ANYTHING until I received a list of the directories that he had submitted to, together with the categories. You need this to ensure your next link building campaign does not end in you spamming directories with multiple submissions.

NOT ends, please discuss :)

[maldives]

My friend,

No need to send $7. The problem is over. No grudge on my part. :)
I highly recommend Alfredo for paid submission service :)

[alfredo]

Ends as in we are no longer allowed to discuss this ;)

One question though, has this trader admitted he only submitted you to 50 places, or is this your assumption based on the number of confirmations? I am NOT taking sides here, I am just interested in knowing. If the guy has told you he has only done half of the work, then fine agree and pay him half. That said, I would not pay ANYTHING until I received a list of the directories that he had submitted to, together with the categories. You need this to ensure your next link building campaign does not end in you spamming directories with multiple submissions.

NOT ends, please discuss :)

Some posts back, you can find my whole explanation.


For people interested in this thread, please read right from the start, this way you can get the big picture, not just chunks.

[czarkenneth]

Well Old Bald & Welsh :)
I received 50 confirmation emails (approx.)
No the trader hasnt confirmed how many he submitted to, but it must have been at least half if not all, (100).
He's a sweet guy, I can tell & tbh I feel a wee bit low charging back & now he doesnt want half the payment. so I know not what to do!
Anyway, the world keeps spinning.
Another day less of the Bush fascist dictatorship (s*it did I just say that in public!)
Cheers!
Grey, middle-aged, Irish!

[MattUK]

wee bit low charging back & now he doesnt want half the payment.
I'd pay double considering the trouble that you've caused him by charging back!

[alfredo]

Well Old Bald & Welsh :)
I received 50 confirmation emails (approx.)
No the trader hasnt confirmed how many he submitted to, but it must have been at least half if not all, (100).
He's a sweet guy, I can tell & tbh I feel a wee bit low charging back & now he doesnt want half the payment. so I know not what to do!
Anyway, the world keeps spinning.
Another day less of the Bush fascist dictatorship (s*it did I just say that in public!)
Cheers!
Grey, middle-aged, Irish!

Yes, I confirmed how many I submitted to, I even sent you a report with the urls of the directories.

What a concidence! My president is at a conference with Bush at the very same moment (no kidding!)

[thudufushi]

Alfredo

I would like to use your service, if you can start soon enough, would you like to PM me please
Thanks
Steve

[czarkenneth]

It would take a Brit to say that

[SiteExpress]

I have used Alfredo and been very happy with his service. I have also referred several of my clients to him, and ALL gave great reports back.

[MattUK]

It would take a Brit to say that
I could have told you it wouldn't have been a Scot

[Ajeet]

4 / I will pay this trader $7.00 for the work he has proven he did.


Dude, Alfredo mentioned in this thread that he has submitted to all 100 directories. So, you owe him $14. Unless there was a specific agreement that you had with him that said that not only must he submit to 100, but also PROVE that.

[czarkenneth]

Dude, Alfredo mentioned in this thread that he has submitted to all 100 directories. So, you owe him $14. Unless there was a specific agreement that you had with him that said that not only must he submit to 100, but all PROVE that.

Eh, 'Dude'.
'Ends' means 'ends', far as I'm concerned.
What part of the empire you from 'dude'!

[Ajeet]

I am in Mumbai, India.

You know, since there was a penalty instituted for red repping, I have not red repped anyone, but I think I will go ahead and red rep you for not giving Alfredo his due. I hope you agree with me that this is fair :) Let me know that the red rep reached you safe and sound :)

Uhh, I just noticed that you are already in the red, even without my red rep. So, I guess I won't be making a splash then. But, this is a matter of principle now.

[czarkenneth]

You know this Red Repping has just ruined my day.

[Ajeet]

Think of this as an opportunity (and I do not mean that in a cheeky way). I have seen a bunch of seriously redded people well in the green presently. I will also look out for you and green rep you when appropriate.

[Old Welsh Guy]

Some posts back, you can find my whole explanation.


For people interested in this thread, please read right from the start, this way you can get the big picture, not just chunks.


Hey Man, PLEASE don't be ignorant and shout at me. I HAVE been involved in this thread from the start. Didn't your web tutour teach you ANY Netiquette ;)

[phree_radical]

i think it was an OOC kind of comment. (;

[Naish]

of course you should have been careful. It was a mistake on your part.

[Naish]

will you still be needing articles? If you do, PM me please.
P.S. I won't scam you.

[alfredo]

Hey Man, PLEASE don't be ignorant and shout at me. I HAVE been involved in this thread from the start. Didn't your web tutour teach you ANY Netiquette ;)


Dear Old Welsh Guy,

Bold letters were not aimed at you. That's why I replied to you in standard font, and then added a comment in bold. I'm sorry anyway, I should have posted the bold message separetely.

[Old Welsh Guy]

No probs my reply was british sarcasm ;)

[psyberweb]

Hehe i love thread like this, they kinda argue at start and befriend in the end. In real life you both should hug or kiss :P , well anyways directory submissions are not always giving an approval rate of 90% above.

Well I do hope that this is a lesson for all of us.

[Old Welsh Guy]

I received my first directory rejection today! First EVER rejection. I was told my site was not popular enough. Hmmmmmm So they don't think that 1.5 Million page impressions a month is popular enough :D Honestly some people are placing too much weight on page rank. You just gotta love the dorks of this world dontya

[soultime]

Hi:)

They are not all super responsive on this site

I have a standing order for over 200 for $30 which is fine price wise but when the hec is it gonna get done!

I placed the order over a week ago and contacted the guy twice now, once 2 days after payment and last night a week later.

He promised it would be started today but so far not a single confirmation in over a week. He reckoned it is in cue and should be started today.

To be fair, I did request (if it wasnt too much trouble) to stagger the 225 over a few weeks, and I dont know if that is the problem, but the point of staggering is to do the first batch, otherwise how can you stagger the next batch?

I havent received a single damn email yet much less a report. Nor has there been any visits to the site. (people checking the link)

:mad: :D

Forget the money, its the time thing thats bothering me. The only professional thing I have seen him do so far is call me "Sir" in his pm's to me. Im thinkin, forget the sliptalk and just do what you promised dude.

Im thinkin Alfredo is my answer.

[Old Welsh Guy]

Soultime, I t9ihnk it is time to tell him to get on with it, or refund the money. I am not sure why you want to stagger the backlink building, as the spiders will not find them all at once anyhow. Just get on with it Is my advice.

[iowadawg]

I have used Alfredo and been very happy with his service. I have also referred several of my clients to him, and ALL gave great reports back.
I used him when he first started and had no problems at all.

[soultime]

Thanks for the advice OWG

I am a complete git with this whole SEO business and really have no clue. I can only go on what I read in forums and as always, the biggest problem is finding a legitimate source of advice, its not as if Google wrote a bloody instruction manual :)

I agree now, last night when I pm'd him he was quick to respond to my pm, I told him to disregard the staggering if that is a problem and just get it done, thats when he said he would have it started today.

Evidently, today to him means when he gets around to it.

I will pm him now and ask him just to do it.

[alfredo]

Hi:)

They are not all super responsive on this site

I have a standing order for over 200 for $30 which is fine price wise but when the hec is it gonna get done!

I placed the order over a week ago and contacted the guy twice now, once 2 days after payment and last night a week later.

He promised it would be started today but so far not a single confirmation in over a week. He reckoned it is in cue and should be started today.

To be fair, I did request (if it wasnt too much trouble) to stagger the 225 over a few weeks, and I dont know if that is the problem, but the point of staggering is to do the first batch, otherwise how can you stagger the next batch?

I havent received a single damn email yet much less a report. Nor has there been any visits to the site. (people checking the link)

:mad: :D

Forget the money, its the time thing thats bothering me. The only professional thing I have seen him do so far is call me "Sir" in his pm's to me. Im thinkin, forget the sliptalk and just do what you promised dude.

Im thinkin Alfredo is my answer.

Thanks! :D

[Old Welsh Guy]

Alfredo, the reality is that whilst the web is a big place, often your rep supersedes you!

I know for sure that I often bump into people across the web, and it is often in places I would not expect to do so!! I have independently hit online friends in forums where I would never expect to do so.
Although it is worldwide, the web is still a community, and like the experiment proved, we are ALL within six steps of each other (by and large).

[alfredo]

Alfredo, the reality is that whilst the web is a big place, often your rep supersedes you!

I know for sure that I often bump into people across the web, and it is often in places I would not expect to do so!! I have independently hit online friends in forums where I would never expect to do so.
Although it is worldwide, the web is still a community, and like the experiment proved, we are ALL within six steps of each other (by and large).


Where on the web can I find more info on this experiment? Just curious :)

[Old Welsh Guy]

It is a study on social networking, some information here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_degrees_of_separation

[ahkip]

used the service. got a report..but only got like four or five comfimation email...is it normal?

[alfredo]

used the service. got a report..but only got like four or five comfimation email...is it normal?

1 - You won't receive a confirmation email for every submission done.

2 - Confirmation emails may be stopped by spam filters, may be lost among other emails, may never arrive thanks to clients forgetting to create email account in due time, etc, etc.

3 - Quickly checked your submission report and found that out of 140 directories I used, 3 were suspended, 1 was down and 55 listed your site. This means 46% approval rate, very nice for an informational health site such as yours. And, I repeat, it was just a quick search using some key terms.

4 - Please check your inbox for the updated version of your report.


Thanks!

Alfredo

[phree_radical]

Directory submission needs something new... I imagine a provider of a directory submission service could cooperate with his customers on a special shared e-mail account that is forwarded to the webmaster's existing email account... depending on the provider of the email service a trust factor may be involved

[Old Welsh Guy]

1 - You won't receive a confirmation email for every submission done.

2 - Confirmation emails may be stopped by spam filters, may be lost among other emails, may never arrive thanks to clients forgetting to create email account in due time, etc, etc.

3 - Quickly checked your submission report and found that out of 140 directories I used, 3 were suspended, 1 was down and 55 listed your site. This means 46% approval rate, very nice for an informational health site such as yours. And, I repeat, it was just a quick search using some key terms.

4 - Please check your inbox for the updated version of your report.


Thanks!

Alfredo


Nice Info Alfredo.

One thing I have thought of is that the problem is one of perception, rather than actually having the job done. Might I make the following suggestions to make life easier for all?

This is the methodology I use for submitting to and monitoring directory submissions. I use a spreadsheet, contained in that sheet is the following information.
1. directory url
2. url of the page where my site will appear once accepted
3. date of submission
4. date of email receipt
5. date my site found on page
(there are other columns, but they are trade secrets :D )

Might I suggest to those who do directory submisions that they provide the actual category page where the site was submitted to and will appear if accepted. May I also suggest to those who use submissin services that they set up software monitoring of these pages that notifies them of changes.

Thos two simple steps above will prevent the bulk of distrust and bad feeling with regard submission services. People using autosubmission will not be able to provide the target category url, and as such will be downgraded, while those such as Alfredo who do the job dilligently will have no problem providing the information (which by the way is essential) IMO.

Tell me to keep my beak out by all means, but I honestly think this would improve the quality of service.

[Will.Spencer]

I contracted Alfredo late last year to submit about a dozen sites to all 100 directories.

Service was great. Communication was excellent. My mailbox was spammed like crazy by all sorts of web directory scripts. :D

[Old Welsh Guy]

I contracted Alfredo late last year to submit about a dozen sites to all 100 directories.

Service was great. Communication was excellent. My mailbox was spammed like crazy by all sorts of web directory scripts. :D
Indeed, you know when the job has been done when the spam mounts up LOL

[Link_Building_Services]

I've used Alfredo's service as well, and I'm satisfied.
Besides, Alfredo is a nice guy!

[alfredo]

Nice Info Alfredo.

One thing I have thought of is that the problem is one of perception, rather than actually having the job done. Might I make the following suggestions to make life easier for all?

This is the methodology I use for submitting to and monitoring directory submissions. I use a spreadsheet, contained in that sheet is the following information.
1. directory url
2. url of the page where my site will appear once accepted
3. date of submission
4. date of email receipt
5. date my site found on page
(there are other columns, but they are trade secrets :D )

Might I suggest to those who do directory submisions that they provide the actual category page where the site was submitted to and will appear if accepted. May I also suggest to those who use submissin services that they set up software monitoring of these pages that notifies them of changes.

Thos two simple steps above will prevent the bulk of distrust and bad feeling with regard submission services. People using autosubmission will not be able to provide the target category url, and as such will be downgraded, while those such as Alfredo who do the job dilligently will have no problem providing the information (which by the way is essential) IMO.

Tell me to keep my beak out by all means, but I honestly think this would improve the quality of service.

Yes, it's a question of perception, specially among those people new to the web or to seo.

A more detailed report would help for sure, but it'll also cost more. Anyway, I'm taking notes of all suggestions, and plan to launch something new in the near future...

[Old Welsh Guy]

Alfredo, Initially, I must admit that I knew reporting in such detail should demand a premium!

I can not envisage anyone providing this level of service for pennies as it involves far more work!

[eddy2099]

I am not sure if this post would be of value. As I had some time on my hands, I decided to submit to 100 directories manually, actually 103 and it appears that out of the 103, only less than 20 sent me a reply, I've got some rejections and some said on the website that they will take a couple of months to reply if they wanted to do so.

The trouble is that the submitter would have control over where the site would be submitted but he does not have control over the directory to get a response or even to have the links accepted.

I would think the only sure way of getting 100 links accepted would be through link building which would indeed cost a lot more. The cheapest I've seen is $3 a link and even that, I do not get a lot of confirmation.

Keep up the good work, Alfredo :) You are doing fine.

[ahkip]

alfredo, i 've got you update email.

got accept by 50+ submission, i am impressed by the result

that email sure clear thing up

[w529]

Hi

I think nobody is expecting for $14 to have this kind of service with excell spread sheets with dates etc…
Keep the good work alfredo

[Old Welsh Guy]

Hi

I think nobody is expecting for $14 to have this kind of service with excell spread sheets with dates etc…
Keep the good work alfredo

Then Pay more :D Honestly, the submitting is only part of the job. ANYTHING in web marketing that is not monitored and timelined is wasted work IMO.