IN and OUT of SANDBOX and back IN!!

[lilquit]

google played with my emotions big time
on saturday in a few google datacenters we were ranking me #1 for most keywords and top 3 for all keywords
pretty much the same as i am in msn beta
So i was happy, thinking we are finally coming out
but it all went away by monday
back to mid 100's for main keyword searches excpet for #10 for "bodyboarding" purely because it is the keyword i use in the CO-OP network which i just joined about 10 days ago
before the CO-OP i was around 180
jumped up with in days
but I' still in the sanbox now
Co-op is sandbox proof i reckon
I wonder how much longer i will be sanboxed.
I started SEO in july, no submission to SE's or optimization before then.

[disgust]

that doesn't sound like the sandbox to me, to be honest...

if you're able to rank if you throw an appropriate amount of backlinks at it, it isn't the sandbox (and this is basically what you said).

you're probably in the sandbox if:
your domain is new (roughly less than 6 months old)
you rank well in "allinanchor:keyphrase", but not for "keyphrase"
there are very, very few terms in which you rank well for.. and they're usually only really obscure and non-competitive ones

[lilquit]

wait explain allie anchor to me!
i am a rookie
thank you
i dont know what it is
like for keyword bodyboard i am 145
but say for bodyboard shop i am #3
or for bodyboard fins i am #1 and so on with various combos
is bodyboard shop an allie anchor?


i have 18,500 links on yahoo
my domain is almost one year old
but i never saw us on any seach engine till september maybe august had no idea what seo was until late july when i got it optimzed
about 6 full months ago

Ok
i typed in "allinanchor:bodyboard" I am #7
but "bodyboard" I am #145 or something
so i think i am sanboxed!!

[chachi]

no, allinanchor: shows you how a page on your site ranks in relation to all of the other pages out there in anchor text. So, for allinanchor:bodyboard, there are 6 sites that have more anchor text weight pointing to their pages. You need to get more links on more pages with that anchor text (bodyboard) pointing to the page listed in allinanchor:bodyboard.

[mcdar]

Something Big DID go on in Google Starting around Dec. 27th

There is a rather large discussion on the topic at SEO Chat...

Google showing Big serps movement (http://forums.seochat.com/t20910/s.html)

Many folks reported that sites they had that were "sandboxed" for months seemed to come out and achieve good placement in serps then slowly slip back to oblivian again.

I had also reported seeing changes in one pages position starting late December. Google was showing changes almost hourly!

Here is a link to the table I have been keeping...

Daily Fluctuations (http://www.mcdar.net/datacenters12_30.htm)

Good Luck,
Caryl

[darksat]

IMHO the sandbox is a crude explanation for various features of the google algo that are a lot more complex than simply timing a site untill it ranks.

[lilquit]

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