Reputation "Cost"

[digitalpoint]

There is now a "cost" for giving someone a red reputation.

If you give someone a negative (red) reputation, it will cost you 1 rep in order to do so.

[DomainMaster]

Thanks Shawn.

[fsmedia]

I agree with what you're doing Shawn, but doing it this late in the game could really screw some people over as far as business goes. I recommend and suggest you do this "cost" method in a non-retroactive method so it only effects future reps and not any past reps. What do you guys think?

[digitalpoint]

I am thinking of making a compromise on the retroactive part. Something along the lines of if the retroactive changes put you into the red (and you were green before), it will put you at an overall zero (neutral).

Believe it or not, I was hit the hardest with the retroactive changes. :)

[fsmedia]

I would be in full support of that method, Shawn. A neautralization to zero would be fine so that there is still at least a green rep bar there. I have no doubts that you were hit the hardest, you've been here the longest :) While other users were hit a lot less, it may impact them in other ways. Thank you for being willing to compromise on the retroactive-ness method, I believe it will work better for everyone.

...plus now with a 'cost' method, people will give out red only sparingly instead of giving it out like candy to a baby. (myself included)

[Roman]

If you do keep it retroactive maybe those that go from geen to red should keep enough points to have a signature at least.
That would seem fairer.

[fryman]

No! I love my red!

[fsmedia]

If you do keep it retroactive maybe those that go from geen to red should keep enough points to have a signature at least.
That would seem fairer.

I'm in the red and it seems I'm able to keep a sig still, I think that's a post count issue and not a rep issue. (but I could be wrong)

[SportsOutlaw]

Wow, this retro stuff really exposed the "red rep and run" folks :)

[EGS]

What if they deserve it though? Why would it decrease your rep???

[fsmedia]

What if they deserve it though? Why would it decrease your rep???

That's also a good point though ~~ Shawn ~~ because if someone does indeed deserve a red rep, why should we get doc'ed for it too? What if you created a forumla where it said { if ( users > 5 ) { deduct -1 from user } else { null } } in the sense if less than 5 users gave red rep, then deduct from those X amount of users, but if over 5 users gave red rep (showing it was truly a bad post), then don't deduct rep from those users. What about a system like that?

[SportsOutlaw]

If you are not running around and red repping constantly, this formula will have little effect on you.

[fsmedia]

If you are not running around and red repping constantly, this formula will have little effect on you.

While I also agree with this, it might prove to be worth looking into. that way when a post really is bad, according to more than X amount of users, it's validated as a bad post and not someone just getting 'vengence' or someone being 'moody'.

[DomainMaster]

how about 6 school yard bullies feeling moody? They are part of a mob lol How about make it 10? 15 or 20? BTW, there's another feature to report a bad post and that's what should be used.

[SportsOutlaw]

Somebody posted in one of the other rep threads about simply removing the feature all together. I think that would actually be a wonderful idea.

[fsmedia]

Somebody posted in one of the other rep threads about simply removing the feature all together. I think that would actually be a wonderful idea.

That's actually not a half bad idea....then it would only show people getting green and you would only give green when you found a post especially helpful or informational. Shawn ~~ what are your thoughts on this?

*looks around and scratchs his head and he sees his rep going from -22 to -2 to 214 to 194 to....*

[jackburton2006]

Does this mean my scheme to get a Green Rep Exchange Program going for a minimal fee is now null and voided? Blast!

[SumitBahl]

Its good that i did not give out too much red.....

No! I love my red!

fryman, you broke all records for max reds i guess.

Shawn, i think this should not affect your current rep points, shouldve made this for the giving reds form now on. :(

EDIT: I think its rolled back already, i see my same rep points now.

EDIT EDIT: Rep points are reduced again.

[SportsOutlaw]

That's actually not a half bad idea....then it would only show people getting green and you would only give green when you found a post especially helpful or informational. Shawn ~~ what are your thoughts on this?

*looks around and scratchs his head and he sees his rep going from -22 to -2 to 214 to 194 to....*

Actually, my thought is to remove the rep system completely. no green or red.

[fsmedia]

While this may be a suitable solution for the rest of the board, the business/services portion of the board depends heavily on the rep/iTrader system to show how credited a specific member is in the position to which they are selling for. I disagree with completely blowing away the rep system. But maybe it would be possible to include the rep system in specific forums only, such as the iTrader module has been done for.

[DomainMaster]

Actually, my thought is to remove the rep system completely. no green or red.
I totally agree with you. Down with the rep system! Viva la revolucion!:p

[fryman]

While this may be a suitable solution for the rest of the board, the business/services portion of the board depends heavily on the rep/iTrader system to show how credited a specific member is in the position to which they are selling for. I disagree with completely blowing away the rep system.

Well, people will tell you that that is the reason for the trader rating, but I think it is worthless. For example someone posted a site for sale here and then sold it at another forum. I was really tempted to leave him a negative rating, but all he would of done would be post a negative rating back at me.

BTW... where is the trader rating?? I can't see it now :confused:

[SumitBahl]

Well, people will tell you that that is the reason for the trader rating, but I think it is worthless. For example someone posted a site for sale here and then sold it at another forum. I was really tempted to leave him a negative rating, but all he would of done would be post a negative rating back at me.

BTW... where is the trader rating?? I can't see it now :confused:

I am seeing the iTrader, and rep points are rolled back now as well.

Coming back to the mutiple auction point. I think its fair if a person is running an auction at multiple forums/marketplaces, but that should be mentioned in the original post with the URLs of those auctions.

I normally run them only on one forum.

[digitalpoint]

Okay... the reputation cost retroactiveness can't take someone lower than 0 (that's been updated).

The most interesting reputation changes will come another day. ;)

[SumitBahl]

The most interesting reputation changes will come another day. ;)

Now what are those???? Please give a hint. :)

[fryman]

Darn it... I wanted my glowing red!

[ViciousSummer]

This is SO funny. All the mass red reppers are bummed....haha :D

[DomainMaster]

fryman you change colors like a chameleon, you're gray now.

[digitalpoint]

Also added a note when you give reputation that lets people know there is a "cost" (only shows if someone chooses to give negative).

[fryman]

fryman you change colors like a chameleon, you're gray now.

ahaha... lets see what other surprises Shawn has in mind... maybe in a few days I will be pink! :D

[DomainMaster]

ahaha... lets see what other surprises Shawn has in mind... maybe in a few days I will be pink! :D
lmao@fryman

[SumitBahl]

ahaha... lets see what other surprises Shawn has in mind... maybe in a few days I will be pink! :D

Pink would be reserved for MELLA..... :) ;)

[fryman]

Can anyone else see the trader rating? Because I can't :confused:

[digitalpoint]

Can anyone else see the trader rating? Because I can't :confused:Maybe you aren't in a Buy/Sell/Trade thread. :)

[joeychgo]

Damn Fryman, where did all your green go??

[SumitBahl]

Can anyone else see the trader rating? Because I can't :confused:

Yes, i can.

BTW fryman, just in case you miss your reds too much, i saved this for you.

[fryman]

hmmm... I liked it better like it was before, anyone with a bad trader rating would stand out on any place at the forum and people would be cautious with him

Damn Fryman, where did all your green go??

I decided to start over again... lets see how long it takes me to beat Shawn :D

[ViciousSummer]

Holy CRAP, Fryman! 5 red blobs...hahahahahaha...You little devil ;)

[SumitBahl]

hmmm... I liked it better like it was before, anyone with a bad trader rating would stand out on anyplace at the forum and people would be cautious with him

As far as i remeber it always showed only in B/S/T section.

[joeychgo]

hmmm... I liked it better like it was before, anyone with a bad trader rating would stand out on anyplace at the forum and people would be cautious with him


I agree.........

[DomainMaster]

hmmm... I liked it better like it was before, anyone with a bad trader rating would stand out on any place at the forum and people would be cautious with him



I decided to start over again... lets see how long it takes me to beat Shawn :D

I agree. The iTrader rating should be visible at all time.

[fryman]

BTW fryman, just in case you miss your reds too much, i saved this for you.

I will treasure it...

I wanted to have a glowing red box! :mad:

As far as i remeber it always showed only in B/S/T section.
No, you could see it on any board

[SumitBahl]

I agree.........

I second that as well.

The most interesting reputation changes will come another day.

I think reps would be made public!!!

Any more guesses?

[digitalpoint]

As far as i remeber it always showed only in B/S/T section.Nothing has changed with iTrader... it's always shown only in the Buy/Sell/Trade forums/threads and the user's profile.

I think reps would be made public!!!

Any more guesses?You need to think a little more "outside the box" my friend. :)

[joeychgo]

Shawn - you sure this worked out correctly? Could fryman really have given THAT many reds?

[Roman]

You need to think a little more "outside the box" my friend. :)
Sounds like you plan on switching the rep boxes to rep circles:)

[BamaStangGuy]

Shawn - you sure this worked out correctly? Could fryman really have given THAT many reds?
I could believe it. Just search for "YART"

[SumitBahl]

You need to think a little more "outside the box" my friend.

hummmm... eagerly awaiting, just hope they are good, for me at least. :);)

[fryman]

Could fryman really have given THAT many reds?

Sure!

Lots of people get on my nerves... :D

[joeychgo]

I could believe it. Just search for "YART"


Yeah, but he had 5 dark green and 3 light green - thats like 800+ points.

Man, how could he give THAT much red?

PLUS - He had several reds at one point.... That would mean he gave like 1200 or more red reps!


Damn fryman - dont you like anything? LOL

[fryman]

dont you like anything? LOL

I like her...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1557/pattyavatar7md.jpg

My beautiful baby... never been so in love before...

[digitalpoint]

I like her...

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1557/pattyavatar7md.jpg

My beautiful baby... never been so in love before...{puuukkke}

[Greg-J]

Shawn,

You know....

I worked really hard to get the two bars and 112 rep points that I had.

I work diligently trying to help out in the part of the forums I hang out in (the sales area) a lot of different ways. When people post about me, if they're an upstanding member, they always say something nice.

And when I see that someone is clearly deserved of a red rep point, I issue one. But now I am penalized for trying to go above and beyond? Doing what I thought the rep system was meant for? Had I known this system would be put in palce, I wouldn't have tried to help out by issuing rep at all.

I have effectively been fined 30 rep points for trying to make your forums a better place. Where is the logic in that?

I urge you to reconsider the retroactive part of it. This may not be an issue for many people, but for someone who believes in these forums and has a genuine and vested interest in keeping them a great place to conduct business (at least the section I am mostly involved in anyway) this just seems asinine.

I obviously don't have the general scope that you do, but I can't imagine how making this retroactive is the best thing.

I know this may sound kind of sad to a lot of you, but once I logged in and saw my rep had gone from 112 to 84 points simply because I was using a system the way it was designed - I was quite literally crushed.

I feel like so much of my time has been stolen from me now. With changes like this, what can we expect in the future? Is it time to think about making a name for myself on some other forum?

I fell so... what are the words. Helpless. Betrayed. Disrespected. Disregarded.

What I don't feel is appreciated for doing (what I feel) was more than my part.

And as a side note:
I can appreciate that you were hit the hardest, but taking $100 from a millionair won't effect him. Taking $30 from a guy who only has about $100 is just wrong. Especially when he had just done $30 worth of good deeds.

[fryman]

{puuukkke}

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Keep it up and I will have to spend a rep point on you!

[joeychgo]

Does it really matter Greg? I mean, I agree with you - but - the rep dont mean anything, so what difference does it really make? Im more suprised Shawn is spending time on this.

[ViciousSummer]

{puuukkke}
I 2nd that puke...

[fryman]

Im more suprised Shawn is spending time on this.

Ditto... this had been discussed many times before, and sudenly one crazy broad with Tourette's syndrome starts barking around and everything changes!

I 2nd that puke...

Aaahhh... you guys have never been in love....

[Greg-J]

Does it really matter Greg? I mean, I agree with you - but - the rep dont mean anything, so what difference does it really make? Im more suprised Shawn is spending time on this.

To me? Yes. It really does matter. It's a matter of principal. I'm not some bitter jealous webmaster dishing red rep because I can. I really take the system seriously. And because of that - I've been effectively demoted.

So does it really matter? As a matter of principal, absolutely.

I'm surprised this was even an issue that needed tending to myself. Is this a sign that Shawn has too much free time? (<-- not an insult, just trying to lighten my now somber mood)

[jim]

I see your point because I try not to buy from people with red rep, but since itrader has pretty much entirely replaced green rep for completed transactions, I don't see the new rep system really cahnging the buy, sell, trade.
While this may be a suitable solution for the rest of the board, the business/services portion of the board depends heavily on the rep/iTrader system to show how credited a specific member is in the position to which they are selling for. I disagree with completely blowing away the rep system. But maybe it would be possible to include the rep system in specific forums only, such as the iTrader module has been done for.

By the way, I have a question. If the new system brought my rep down 6 points (for example), does that mean I've left 6 reds over the years? Or since my rep is worth 2, does it really mean I've dished out 3 red reps? In other words, do you lose the same rep the other person loses? Or do you lose 1, no matter how many the other person loses?

[ViciousSummer]

...Aaahhh... you guys have never been in love....
Yeah right, I'm in love with the most amazing person in the world, but I SHOW him rather then grossing you guys out by posting it here...haha :D

[SumitBahl]

Does it really matter Greg? I mean, I agree with you - but - the rep dont mean anything, so what difference does it really make? Im more suprised Shawn is spending time on this.

I think with too much YARTs and anonymous red rep thing, something had to be done, i think the decision is right, but i (and many others) wont agree with retroactive thing.

I can appreciate that you were hit the hardest, but taking $100 from a millionair won't effect him. Taking $30 from a guy who only has about $100 is just wrong. Especially when he had just done $30 worth of good deeds.

Good point.

By the way, I have a question. If the new system brought my rep down 6 points (for example), does that mean I've left 6 reds over the years? Or since my rep is worth 2, does it really mean I've dished out 3 red reps? In other words, do you lose the same rep the other person loses? Or do you lose 1, no matter how many the other person loses?


I think its just one point deduction, no matter how much rep power you've.
You get deducted off one point for every red.

[ViciousSummer]

...I'm surprised this was even an issue that needed tending to myself. Is this a sign that Shawn has too much free time? (<-- not an insult, just trying to lighten my now somber mood)Once you get over the initial shock, it will help in the long run. You're still green, so I wouldn't worry about it. :)

[digitalpoint]

By the way, I have a question. If the new system brought my rep down 6 points (for example), does that mean I've left 6 reds over the years? Or since my rep is worth 2, does it really mean I've dished out 3 red reps? In other words, do you lose the same rep the other person loses? Or do you lose 1, no matter how many the other person loses?You don't loose the same amount the person you are repping losses. It's just a simple "cost" of 1 rep point when you give someone red rep (regardless of how much you affected their rep).

[DomainMaster]

fryman, take it as a gift from me lol
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1237/untitled19uc.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[sachin410]

There should only be green rep...no red rep...so everyone has green rep and everyone is happy :). (rep doesnt mean much anyway...)

The rep giving power should depend on average rep recieved per post and not absolute rep...this will bring new users on equal grounds and they can rep equally as established members. It will also discourage some users from making useless posts to increase their post count.

[fryman]

Yeah right, I'm in love with the most amazing person in the world, but I SHOW him rather then grossing you guys out by posting it here...haha :D


I want the world to know that I am in love with the most amazing girl in the world!!!!!!!!!!

Now I understand Tom Cruise when he went bonkers at that Oprah show...


fryman, take it as a gift from me lol

That would of been cool!

[Shoemoney]

It seems this forum becomes more about rep every day =(

Slowly...

Why not just let people see who is repping them and leave it all full strength? End all this bs YART discussion.

[digitalpoint]

I want the worl to know that I am in love with the most amazing girl in the world!!!!!!!!!!

Now I understand Tom Cruise when he went bonkers at that Oprah show...Okay, that time I really did puke a little bit. It only went in my mouth, so I was able to swallow it... so keep it up. :)

[Greg-J]

Once you get over the initial shock, it will help in the long run. You're still green, so I wouldn't worry about it.

Yeah, I see your point. I'm still to distraught to think about it in a neutral sense though. I worked really hard to get the tiny amount of rep I had. (I've noticed you have to work a lot harder to get green rep in the sales forums).

I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. Really. But one of my vices is standing for principal - and for me, this is a case of principal.

[jim]

Right on! You don't see me posting pictures of my wife. Or maybe I'm just a grumpy old man because those baby (as in human infant) avatars also bug me.Yeah right, I'm in love with the most amazing person in the world, but I SHOW him rather then grossing you guys out by posting it here...haha :D

[joeychgo]

Okay, that time I really did puke a little bit. It only went in my mouth, so I was able to swallow it... so keep it up. :)



Funny - I heard those same words earlier

[fryman]

Hmmm... you guys are not invited to my wedding now :mad:

[jim]

Thanks. I guess I was giving out more red than I realized. And I thought I was sucha nice guy :confused: You don't loose the same amount the person you are repping losses. It's just a simple "cost" of 1 rep point when you give someone red rep (regardless of how much you affected their rep).

[fryman]

We still love you...

[joeychgo]

To me? Yes. It really does matter. It's a matter of principal. I'm not some bitter jealous webmaster dishing red rep because I can. I really take the system seriously. And because of that - I've been effectively demoted.

So does it really matter? As a matter of principal, absolutely.



I agree with you completely about the retroactive part. I hate finding out after the fact I have to pay for something.

But - in the end, like I said, rep doesnt mean anything, so its not really costing you anything.

One thing though - with the retroactive rep cost - people who would have had much less rep power still had that effect, when retroactively they didnt have the power.

im not sure im explaining it right - but for example, if fryman (sorry to pick on you bud) gave someone red rep yesterday, they lost 10 points or more. but today he doesnt have that rep power. that part of the retroactive equasion really makes it a bit unfair.

[SumitBahl]

Okay, that time I really did puke a little bit. It only went in my mouth, so I was able to swallow it... so keep it up. :)

Yucckkk....... :eek:

[fryman]

if fryman (sorry to pick on you bud)

Nah, no worries, I am the forum's guinea pig today :D

[SumitBahl]

im not sure im explaining it right - but for example, if fryman (sorry to pick on you bud) gave someone red rep yesterday, they lost 10 points or more. but today he doesnt have that rep power. that part of the retroactive equasion really makes it a bit unfair.

fryman still has a power of 8 for affecting rep, as he has more than 7k posts and every 1k posts increase your power by 1, plus he has been a member for more than an year, so that gives one more extra point for altering others rep, total is 8.

[fryman]

Hmmm... don't think so, I guess my powers were also reseted

[SumitBahl]

Hmmm... don't think so, I guess my powers were also reseted

Give me green and i would tell you how much power you've right now.... :) ;) :D ;)

[jim]

I'd be careful asking Fryman for rep. We alread know what color he likes to dish out ;) Give me green and i would tell you how much power you've right now....

[joeychgo]

fryman still has a power of 8 for affecting rep, as he has more than 7k posts and every 1k posts increase your power by 1, plus he has been a member for more than an year, so that gives one more extra point for altering others rep, total is 8.


I wouldnt try to guess what shawn has things set at.

In stock VB, Those things add to your rep boxes - the more boxes you have the more power you have.

I dont use rep, so im unsure of how it specifically works, and we know shawn has his modded to hell

[fryman]

I'd be careful asking Fryman for rep. We alread know what color he likes to dish out ;)

How about I give you a red and you tell me how many rep points you loose? :D

[Greg-J]

Apparently Someone doesn't have a sense of humor, so my ironically related/unrelated post was moved. That same someone also apparently doesn't care to respond to my concerns. Perhaps donating to his new servers would make me enough of a community asset to speak to?

Anyway, if this brightens your day, I'm set.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=75882

-Cheers.

[fryman]

Nothing has changed with iTrader... it's always shown only in the Buy/Sell/Trade forums/threads and the user's profile.

Nope... it has changed. I remember because I have been having a PM conversation with a guy I bought a site from, and in the cpanel I could see his trader rating, now I can't

[joeychgo]

I'd be careful asking Fryman for rep. We alread know what color he likes to dish out ;)

No kidding!

[digitalpoint]

Nope... it has changed. I remember because I have been having a PM conversation with a guy I bought a site from, and in the cpanel I could see his trader rating, now I can'tDon't know what to tell you other than you are wrong on this one. :) I promise, it's only shown in B/S/T threads and profiles since day 1.

[fryman]

gee... am I loosing my mind? :D

Anyone here remembers seeing trader ratings outside those specific boards before?

[digitalpoint]

The only place outside of B/S/T you will see it is on a user's profile.

In fact, just to make sure *I* wasn't loosing my mind, I checked the template for it (that's the last edit date)...

Current Version Feb 21st 2006 1:48 pm / digitalpoint

[jim]

How about I give you a red and you tell me how many rep points you loose? :D

My initial reaction was to warn you that if you gave me a red, you'll lose one yourself. Then I remembered that you said you like red. It just seems funny to me, that Shawn wanted to control the amount of red rep, but a few people might be encouraged to give more...

Apparently Someone doesn't have a sense of humor, so my ironically related/unrelated post was moved. That same someone also apparently doesn't care to respond to my concerns. Perhaps donating to his new servers would make me enough of a community asset to speak to?

Anyway, if this brightens your day, I'm set.

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=75882

-Cheers.
Kind of funny, but I see why it belongs in general chat. If it was originally posted to this thread, I might see how it belongs in this context. If you made a new thread, moving it was correct IMO.

[Shoemoney]

Ok so now that rep is the most imporant thing on this forum (bait)

Maybe its time to turn on the rep power option so we can see who has the bigest penis

[fryman]

My initial reaction was to warn you that if you gave me a red, you'll lose one yourself.

Come on! Lighten up, I was only kidding

Maybe its time to turn on the rep power option so we can see who has the bigest penis

Now that's a contest I would win for sure!

[ViciousSummer]

...Maybe its time to turn on the rep power option so we can see who has the bigest penisI do, duh...

[Shoemoney]

I do, duh...

I meant VIRTUAL PENIS

[jim]

Actually I was trying to be funny too. Shawn talking about puking in his mouth got me in a humorous moodCome on! Lighten up, I was only kidding

[minstrel]

I do, duh...

That might explain the earlier reference to the "amazing" boyfriend.

Although that word always reminds me of PeeWee Herman: "Something you can share with the REST of us, Amazing Larry?" - Pee Wee's Big Adventure


I think Shoemoney just spelled "pens" wrong.

[fryman]

So now this thread is about sharing penises? :confused:

[joeychgo]

apparantly

[Shoemoney]

well you know what they say about big feet....



big shoes =P

[ViciousSummer]

I meant VIRTUAL PENIS
Are you calling my virtual penis small??!

[FireStorM]

very nice , this will prevent people from getting red reputation too frequently.

[SumitBahl]

How about I give you a red and you tell me how many rep points you loose? :D

I was thniking, this would be the exact thing you would say. :D :)

[Halobitt]

Are you calling my virtual penis small??!
Small and perfectly formed :)

I think the winner is : Minstrel!

[fryman]

How would you know??? Been peeking in the showers lately???

[joeychgo]

You guys need to get a room :)

[Colleen]

Ditto... this had been discussed many times before, and sudenly one crazy broad with Tourette's syndrome starts barking around and everything changes!



Aaahhh... you guys have never been in love....
I am not crazy and I don't have Tourette's syndrome, ASSHOLE! You really are a POS, but I already knew that.

[Greg-J]

I am not crazy and I don't have Tourette's syndrome, ASSHOLE! You really are a POS, but I already knew that.

So you're the reason I lost 1/3 of my rep today...? Well here you go, have one more. (You see, I'd give ya two - but I can't anymore...;))

[fryman]

Lol, you just proved my point :D

[Cristian Mezei]

Ok this thread is going nowhere. Stop it guys.

Can i ask something about the damn reputation now ?

How come the -1 cost, just costed my -50 ? or -60 ?

With one red rep i gave, my overall reputation went down by 50 or 60.

[Colleen]

So you're the reason I lost 1/3 of my rep today...? Well here you go, have one more. (You see, I'd give ya two - but I can't anymore...;))
If you gave red, then deal with it.

Lol, you just proved my point :D
It doesn't mean any single thing bad about me for being willing to speak up about abuse.

[fryman]

Join Date: Dec 2004
With one red rep i gave, my overall reputation went down by 50 or 60.
You only gave one red rep in so much time?

It doesn't mean any single thing bad about me for being willing to speak up about abuse.

Not at all, but posting like a crazy broad which uses 3 insults for every 4 words sure makes you seem like you need more class.

[Greg-J]

Make that -49 or -59 ;)

Ok this thread is going nowhere. Stop it guys.

Can i ask something about the damn reputation now ?

How come the -1 cost, just costed my -50 ? or -60 ?

With one red rep i gave, my overall reputation went down by 50 or 60.

[digitalpoint]

Ok this thread is going nowhere. Stop it guys.

Can i ask something about the damn reputation now ?

How come the -1 cost, just costed my -50 ? or -60 ?

With one red rep i gave, my overall reputation went down by 50 or 60.I lost 750+... :) It costs 1 per red rep you give out (you probably just don't see the old ones because well, they are old).

[joeychgo]

Ok this thread is going nowhere. Stop it guys.

Can i ask something about the damn reputation now ?

How come the -1 cost, just costed my -50 ? or -60 ?

With one red rep i gave, my overall reputation went down by 50 or 60.


I asked the same question earlier - fryman seems to have lost WAYY too much rep - I cant believe he is THAT big of a red repper. He had to lose like 1200

[fryman]

Well, I thought it was because of the rep power. For example, if I gave someone a red rep which cost 5 points, I would of lost 5.

I am a red repper, but I don't think I am so much... or am I? :D

[BamaStangGuy]

I asked the same question earlier - fryman seems to have lost WAYY too much rep - I cant believe he is THAT big of a red repper. He had to lose like 1200
I can actually see him just browsing around and giving people red as a daily routine.

[joeychgo]

Well, I thought it was because of the rep power. For example, if I gave someone a red rep which cost 5 points, I would of lost 5.

I am a red repper, but I don't think I am so much... or am I? :D



My understanding is that you lose 1 point per red rep - which is why I was asking if the calculations were right, because I cant imaging you going from like 9 green to 5 red at -1 per red rep.

[Cristian Mezei]

Aha .. so the thing is, after this system was implemented, it continued to keep track of EXACTLY how many red point you gave since your join date, and with the first red rep you gaved, it took all those from you right ?

Phiuu.... I'm calm now.. I thought Shawn nailed my ass (i think you can take 50 right ?)

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLL : Fryman has one green rep notch.. I noticed just now :D:D

[Nintendo]

We should be allowed to red-rep members on the first 24 hours after they register with out loosing a point, so we can red rep all the spammers before they get baned!!!! :D

[Greg-J]

If you gave red, then deal with it.

I love the smell of self-righteousness in the morning.

[fryman]

Oh, well, who cares? As long as this keeps those darn YARTs from popping up now we can all be happy


We should be allowed to red-rep members on the first 24 hours after they register with out loosing a point, so we can red rep all the spammers before they get baned!!!!

he he... I like that idea

[joeychgo]

We should be allowed to red-rep members on the first 24 hours after they register with out loosing a point, so we can red rep all the spammers before they get baned!!!! :D


You know, thats a good point cause I wont be red repping spammers from now on.

[SumitBahl]

My understanding is that you lose 1 point per red rep - which is why I was asking if the calculations were right, because I cant imaging you going from like 9 green to 5 red at -1 per red rep.

Thats right, you get deducted of one point for each red, not by your power of affecting others rep.

Shawn made it clear in this thread.

[digitalpoint]

Well, I thought it was because of the rep power. For example, if I gave someone a red rep which cost 5 points, I would of lost 5.

I am a red repper, but I don't think I am so much... or am I? :DYou really want to know? :)mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) as Total FROM reputation WHERE whoadded = 756 AND reputation < 0 AND userid != 756;
+-------+
| Total |
+-------+
| 1617 |
+-------+
1 row in set (0.01 sec)

It only counts 1 rep regardless of how much you affect someone else.

[fryman]

Cool... I am the king of the red...

[Cristian Mezei]

The guy gave 1700 red reps ? :D :D :D

That's insane :rolleyes:

Can you make it so that :

"Cost" of giving red reputation to someone is -1

becomes :

The "cost" of giving red reputation to someone is -1 points for you, for each red rep (not point) you give to other users.

SO that all the users have a general ideea of the thing ? And to avoid to have like 432523 other flame reputation threads ? with everyone beeing confused ?

[Nintendo]

About 90% of the red rep I gave out was to spammers (Looks like about 100 of them!!), then...you end up geting punished for it!!!! :eek:

[Colleen]

You only gave one red rep in so much time?



Not at all, but posting like a crazy broad which uses 3 insults for every 4 words sure makes you seem like you need more class.
So because I am willing to go public with it and not hide behind rep like a coward like you, I must be crazy or something. :rolleyes:

You've been hiding behind rep (COWARD) for a long time now.

Seems to me if anyone here has issues, it's you. You log in and run to find people to rep, you solely come to this forum to give bad rep. You need counselling.

[joeychgo]

Fryman - 1617 - your an asshole!!!! :D

[fryman]

lol, joey! Has Collen spread her syndrome to you? :D

[joeychgo]

About 90% of the red rep I gave out was to spammers (Looks like about 100 of them!!), then...you end up geting punished for it!!!! :eek:



I share your pain my brotha

[SumitBahl]

1617 is way too much.....

You would be giving reds even in your dreams. :D :D

[joeychgo]

lol, joey! Has Collen spread her syndrome to you? :D


DUDE!!!!!!!!!! The numbers dont lie! ROFL! 1617! WOW!

Shawn - you should give him a gew greens just for being the biggest rep asshole on DP!

[fryman]

Nah, been here almost 2 years...

Give me some time and I will reach 2,000 :D

[Greg-J]

So because I am willing to go public with it and not hide behind rep like a coward like you, I must be crazy or something.

You've been hiding behind rep (COWARD) for a long time now.

Seems to me if anyone here has issues, it's you. You log in and run to find people to rep, you solely come to this forum to give bad rep. You need counselling.


Umm...

So because of people like fryman(no offense to you fryman, I actually like you), you sought to impose a policy that had the potential to negatively effect people using the system for good for the sake of punishing the wrong-do'ers with complete disregard for the decent individuals that make this forum what it is?

WAY TO GO YOU !!!

What's even better?
Shawn had the forsight to see how flawed implementing this new rule retroactively would be and wisely decided against it.

Oh wait...

(I hope I'm not poking the bear with a stick here Shawn, but I figure for steeling 1/3 of my rep... I should be allowed to get some digs in here and there for a little while.)

[Cristian Mezei]

Nah, been here almost 2 years...

Give me some time and I will reach 2,000 :D

Hey ... At least you are on a distinguished road.

[ViciousSummer]

About 90% of the red rep I gave out was to spammers (Looks like about 100 of them!!), then...you end up geting punished for it!!!! :eek:
Nope. When a spam post is deleted so is all rep that was given to that post (positive and negative). So quite try to be so righteous ;)...haha

[fryman]

people like fryman?

Come on, dude, quit whining.

Hey ... At least you are on a distinguished road.

I'm on a roll... watch out, Shawn, I am going to pass you soon! :D

[digitalpoint]

Nope. When a spam post is deleted so is all rep that was given to that post (positive and negative). So quite try to be so righteous ;)...hahaActually, that's not true... it's still there, just hidden.

[Roman]

1617 only averages out to 2.42 red reps/day:)

[ViciousSummer]

...you sought to impose a policy that had the potential to negatively effect people using the system for good for the sake of punishing the wrong-do'ers with complete disregard for the decent individuals that make this forum what it is?...Oh Christ, people. Chill the fuck out. Colleen had nothing to do with this new rule. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on me, that would probably be closer to the truth (since I'm related to the guy that did it). :rolleyes:

[fryman]

1617 only averages out to 2.42 red reps/day


Total Posts: 7,544 (11.32 posts per day)

So I guess I aren't such an asshole after all...

Lets call it a petite asshole, ok?

[ViciousSummer]

Actually, that's not true... it's still there, just hidden.
I thought they turned to grey? :confused:

[Colleen]

Umm...

So because of people like fryman(no offense to you fryman, I actually like you), you sought to impose a policy that had the potential to negatively effect people using the system for good for the sake of punishing the wrong-do'ers with complete disregard for the decent individuals that make this forum what it is?

WAY TO GO YOU !!!

What's even better?
Shawn had the forsight to see how flawed implementing this new rule retroactively would be and wisely decided against it.

Oh wait...

(I hope I'm not poking the bear with a stick here Shawn, but I figure for steeling 1/3 of my rep... I should be allowed to get some digs in here and there for a little while.)
What are you talking about? I didn't ask Shawn to install a thing or to change a thing.

Oh Christ, people. Chill the fuck out. Colleen had nothing to do with this new rule. If you want to blame it on someone, blame it on me, that would probably be closer to the truth (since I'm related to the guy that did it). :rolleyes:
Thanks Summer. Yeah Greg, it had nothing to do with me. ;)

[digitalpoint]

I thought they turned to grey? :confused:No, they disappear from the UserCP, but they still count overall (that's a vBulletin thing, not by my design).

[Greg-J]

Well I don't I feel like an ass now.

[joeychgo]

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.



damn

[fryman]

Was that for me? :D

[SEO Guru]

Do we gain a green point if we give out another?
Anyway I still believe its as useless as google PR.
So, why bother?

[SumitBahl]

You have given out too much Reputation in the last 24 hours, try again later.
damn

Was that for me?

or me???? :) :)

Dont worry 24 hours is not a big time. :D ;)

Do we gain a green point if we give out another?
Anyway I still believe its as useless as google PR.
So, why bother?

If you could gain points by giving green nobody would be red then. I think that would enver happen.

[digitalpoint]

I feel like so much of my time has been stolen from me now. With changes like this, what can we expect in the future? Is it time to think about making a name for myself on some other forum?

I fell so... what are the words. Helpless. Betrayed. Disrespected. Disregarded.

What I don't feel is appreciated for doing (what I feel) was more than my part.Are you kidding? You know that forum reputation has no real (or virtual) value, right?

Everyone (for the most part) lost rep with this change. But okay... if it makes you feel better, I just gave you 100 Digital Point dollars to make up for it. You are now the richest person in the forum because you are the only one with DP dollars. :)

[joeychgo]

there were several I wanted to give out... :) Although im not as strong as I was - Shawn circumsized me a bit.

Are you kidding? You know that forum reputation has no real (or virtual) value, right?

Everyone (for the most part) lost rep with this change. But okay... if it makes you feel better, I just gave you 100 Digital Point dollars to make up for it. You are now the richest person in the forum because you are the only one with DP dollars. :)


WTF About me!!!!!!!!!!!! GIPPED!! :D

[Cristian Mezei]

Do we gain a green point if we give out another?

In your sweet wet dreams baby :D

Anyway I still believe its as useless as google PR.
So, why bother?

You're just saying that to sound as a cool guy, but you're hurting your ass of inside, for those red reps. :D

[fryman]

lol, this is a fun thread... but got to go to sleep now. I'll come back and have a laugh at Colleen's barking later on (I can only imagine: bla bla bla fucking shit bla bla asshole fuck fuck bla bla fuck asshole shit bla bla...)

Keep it rolling, guys! :D

[Colleen]

Are you kidding? You know that forum reputation has no real (or virtual) value, right?

Everyone (for the most part) lost rep with this change. But okay... if it makes you feel better, I just gave you 100 Digital Point dollars to make up for it. You are now the richest person in the forum because you are the only one with DP dollars. :)
LMAO! :D....

lol, this is a fun thread... but got to go to sleep now. I'll come back and have a laugh at Colleen's barking later on (I can only imagine: bla bla bla fucking shit bla bla asshole fuck fuck bla bla fuck asshole shit bla bla...)

Keep it rolling, guys! :D
I didn't do that in my posts Fryman. But thanks for pointing it out over and over and showing you are in fact trying to hide something about yourself by focusing so much on me. Sweet dreams.

Yeah, go roll another fatty.

[SumitBahl]

Are you kidding? You know that forum reputation has no real (or virtual) value, right?

Everyone (for the most part) lost rep with this change. But okay... if it makes you feel better, I just gave you 100 Digital Point dollars to make up for it. You are now the richest person in the forum because you are the only one with DP dollars. :)

Is this some new thing?? Can we purchase anything with these DP Dollars??? :D ;)

[joeychgo]

lol, this is a fun thread... but got to go to sleep now. I'll come back and have a laugh at Colleen's barking later on (I can only imagine: bla bla bla fucking shit bla bla asshole fuck fuck bla bla fuck asshole shit bla bla...)

Keep it rolling, guys! :D

We're gonna make you red while you sleep..... :)

[digitalpoint]

Is this some new thing?? Can we purchase anything with these DP Dollars??? :D ;)You don't have any DP dollars, so I wouldn't worry about it. :) Only Greg-J has DP dollars.

[joeychgo]

Is this some new thing?? Can we purchase anything with these DP Dollars??? :D ;)

Yeah - every 1000 DP dollars = 1 rep point

That and $4 will get you a latte

[fryman]

We're gonna make you red while you sleep..... :)

But I want my red to glow!!

Ok, bye! Good night :D

[SEO Guru]

You're just saying that to sound as a cool guy, but you're hurting your ass of inside, for those red reps. :D I really dont care for it, be it red or be it green, as I have already reduced my posts on DP, the reason for it isn't that hard to guess but its not related to rep for sure. :)

[Cristian Mezei]

Hey .. who deleted the "Shawn circumsizing someone" post ?

I wanted to quote that.

[SumitBahl]

But I want my red to glow!!

Ok, bye! Good night :D

Good night fryman!! And dont loose your sleep over those 5 reb blobs you just missed. :) ;)

[SEO Guru]

Hey .. who deleted the "Shawn circumsizing someone" post ?

I wanted to quote that.+1

:D:D :D:D

[Roman]

I just gave you 100 Digital Point dollars to make up for it. You are now the richest person in the forum because you are the only one with DP dollars. :)

Greg-J, I'll buy 51 of those DP dollars for a positive vote;)

I wanna be the richest.

[Colleen]

I don't know how anyone here can like Fryman after what was revealed, to have 5 red "blobs", it shows what he does here with his time and why he's here.

Why abuse people like that for no good reason? I know he's a bully and must have been bullied but you'd think he'd grow up at some point and get over it.

As he's the only one attacking me, I feel relieved to know he was the main goon going around giving me and my friends and other members red for no reason.

He is and was the main DP riff raff.

[joeychgo]

Hey .. who deleted the "Shawn circumsizing someone" post ?

I wanted to quote that.

That was MY post :(

there were several I wanted to give out... :) Although im not as strong as I was - Shawn circumsized me a bit.



There is is -- post 152

[Greg-J]

Are you kidding? You know that forum reputation has no real (or virtual) value, right?

Everyone (for the most part) lost rep with this change. But okay... if it makes you feel better, I just gave you 100 Digital Point dollars to make up for it. You are now the richest person in the forum because you are the only one with DP dollars. . A portion of that red rep I gave was to people who were devaluing your forum. By red repping them, I helped to have something done about them at least in a round about way. Improving the overall quality of your forum. That has value.

You're wrong.

They have value because people put value into them. Anything that receives your forum members time and positive effort has value. And if you add it up, we spend a tremendous amount of time on the rep system. Not all of us, but a very substantial portion of us do. Our time ads value to your forum, and therefore becomes valuable to you.

It's apparently valuable enough for you to spend the time you have implementing it, working on it and discussing it.

So whereas you might want to downplay any effect - negative or positive - the system itself and the effects your changes have made; You're actions and statements here are completely contradictory.

I realise it's probably foolish of me to but heads with you on this, but I'm not a sheep and I'd rather show you the respect of being honest in my opinion than jumping on the band wagon just because you said so.

It's still a great forum though, and I'd like to exchange my DP dollars for rep points. And because I'm the only one who has them and everybody wants them, compounded with the laws of supply and demand, I believe the going rate is 100 rep points per 1 DP dollar. Pay up ;)

And yes... When I find a lost cause, I really go for it.

-Cheers

[Shoemoney]

Well I have done business with a lot of people here including fryman and rep has never made a bit of difference with that.

[Cristian Mezei]

Shawn circumsized me a bit

THere ... I quoted it .. Now i have peace of mind.

I wonder if Shawn has a degree for that too.

Collen ? Fry has other abilities beside beeing a bully.

Everybody (or most, altough i do not) hates Anthony too, but i am sure he has other good things.

And the list goes on. Maybe you as an individual hate Fry more than the rest of us ?

[Colleen]

THere ... I quoted it .. Now i have peace of mind.

I wonder if Shawn has a degree for that too.

Collen ? Fry has other abilities beside beeing a bully.

Everybody (or most, altough i do not) hates Anthony too, but i am sure he has other good things.

And the list goes on. Maybe you as an individual hate Fry more than the rest of us ?
I wasn't disputing his other abilities, but he certainly doesn't use them at DP.

I happen to like AnthonyCea, he was always very good to me.

BTW, are you being a leg humper? fence sitter? shit or get off the pot.

[joeychgo]

THere ... I quoted it .. Now i have peace of mind.




So glad I could help :)

[Cristian Mezei]

Well I have done business with a lot of people here including fryman and rep has never made a bit of difference with that.

Right..

IMHO rep comes in (usually) when people ask advices. A higher rep person usually knows something.

As far as business goes, there's the iTrader module Shoe. Not the stadard rep :)

[joeychgo]

I happen to like AnthonyCea, he was always very good to me.


Me too - I find him humorous

[Cristian Mezei]

BTW, are you being a leg humper? fence sitter? shit or get off the pot.

Sorry ? :cool:

Wait .. HUH ? Was that an insult or what ?

I can say my shit anytime, anywhere Collen. Wouldn't you agree ?

[digitalpoint]

. A portion of that red rep I gave was to people who were devaluing your forum. By red repping them, I helped to have something done about them at least in a round about way. Improving the overall quality of your forum. That has value.

You're wrong.

They have value because people put value into them. Anything that receives your forum members time and positive effort has value. And if you add it up, we spend a tremendous amount of time on the rep system. Not all of us, but a very substantial portion of us do. Our time ads value to your forum, and therefore becomes valuable to you.

It's apparently valuable enough for you to spend the time you have implementing it, working on it and discussing it.

So whereas you might want to downplay any effect - negative or positive - the system itself and the effects your changes have made; You're actions and statements here are completely contradictory.

I realise it's probably foolish of me to but heads with you on this, but I'm not a sheep and I'd rather show you the respect of being honest in my opinion than jumping on the band wagon just because you said so.I don't expect anyone to agree with me. People have 100% free thought here.

Personally, I think the change is a good one (obviously, otherwise it wouldn't have happened) because it will discourage people from red repping others. If someone wants to spend 1 rep point just to red rep someone, then there is a better chance they deserved it vs. having no "cost".

As far as making it retroactive... the main reason that was done was it was a good opportunity to knock down everyones rep a bit (it's not the first time there was a retroactive rep change to knock people's rep down a bit). When rep gets too high for everyone, it looses some value because at some point everyone would have the maximum amount (11 bars I think).

You should try to break your perceived value of reputation, because one day you might wake up and it could be completely gone for the whole forum. :)

[Greg-J]

You should try to break your perceived value of reputation, because one day you might wake up and it could be completely gone for the whole forum.

Yeah, I agree.

I suppose I just started relating my rep points to my overall reputation and it got me down to think that actions I took to improve that, ended up decreasing that.

I am going to have a little fun with those DP dollars though ;)

[Colleen]

Sorry ? :cool:

Wait .. HUH ? Was that an insult or what ?

I can say my shit anytime, anywhere Collen. Wouldn't you agree ?
You're peacekeeping, when anyone's abilities is not even being questioned.

Say what you want, it's besides the point, as you're focusing on abilites and they were not in question.

[SEO Guru]

Me too - I find him humorous
Me three, Nice guy :)

[ViciousSummer]

...A higher rep person usually knows something....
Or they just have a cute picture as their avatar. At least that's how I got all my rep! :)

(oh come on, I'm kidding ;)...)

[Cristian Mezei]

Or they just have a cute picture as their avatar. At least that's how I got all my rep! :)

I happen to like you actually (as much as i like Colleen too), and i didn;t gave you a higher number of reps than to any other person.

So my guess is either Shawn has tempered with the system and made an "accidental" +500 increase (:D), either you really are the real thing :p

[Shoemoney]

Or they just have a cute picture as their avatar. At least that's how I got all my rep! :)

(oh come on, I'm kidding ;)...)

no really it works!

[SumitBahl]

Or they just have a cute picture as their avatar. At least that's how I got all my rep! :)

(oh come on, I'm kidding ;)...)

And, lingerie websites in sig.

[Colleen]

Or they just have a cute picture as their avatar. At least that's how I got all my rep! :)

(oh come on, I'm kidding ;)...)
Well, you ARE a cute, hot, intelligent woman.

[SEO Guru]

I happen to like you actually (as much as i like Colleen too), and i didn;t gave you a higher number of reps than to any other person.

So my guess is either Shawn has tempered with the system and made an "accidental" +500 increase (:D), either you really are the real thing :p
I have to look through the Bad grammer to understandable english conversion book everytime you post something. :rolleyes:
:p

[Cristian Mezei]

I have to look through the Bad grammer to understandable english conversion book everytime you post something. :rolleyes:
:p

Excuse me Mr. SEO Guru, would you like to speak french, german, latin, romanian, italian, spanish or greek in exchange ?

[SEO Guru]

Excuse me Mr. SEO Guru, would you like to speak french, german, latin, romanian, italian, spanish or greek in exchange ?
Sure anything you want (actually I mean anything that you can speak well), I have my translators on. :)

[Greg-J]

Shawn, I had to have a little fun with your DP Dollars post. And hey, we're all opportunists aren't we? I needed to put a smile on mine and everyone else's face as well. So without further adue...


Get your DP Dollars on sale now! (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=812554)


Social experiment in progress ;)

[onedollar]

Is this some new thing?? Can we purchase anything with these DP Dollars???
Yes, rep:D :D

.....ducks:)

[Cristian Mezei]

Neah .. I was just trying to brag about it.

I'm just as usual of a guy as any other cute & sexy boob attracting guy is.

[SumitBahl]

Shawn, I had to have a little fun with your DP Dollars post. And hey, we're all opportunists aren't we? I needed to put a smile on mine and everyone else's face as well. So without further adue...


Get your DP Dollars on sale now! (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=812554)


Social experiment in progress ;)

Posted a question in your thread !!!

[SEO Guru]

Neah .. I was just trying to brag about it.
No Problem :), it was a joke and was intended to be treated as one. ;)

[Michael_Goldman]

cool, DP is finally somehow friendl to newbies..

Next step is to add bonus on every green reputation, so that after you give someone greens you get a couple points yourself and everyone will be happy to share :)

[SumitBahl]

cool, DP is finally somehow friendl to newbies..

Next step is to add bonus on every green reputation, so that after you give someone greens you get a couple points yourself and everyone will be happy to share :)

And greens would've no value, cause everybody would be green then. :)

[jim]

I think some sort of green incentive would be encouraging. After all if someone gives out 10 reds and 500 greens do they really deserve to get docked ten rep? Or when you look at the context do you see someone who deserves a reward for trying to be a part of the community?

Perhaps for every 25 greens you give, you get a "free" red, one that doesn't cost you rep.
cool, DP is finally somehow friendl to newbies..

Next step is to add bonus on every green reputation, so that after you give someone greens you get a couple points yourself and everyone will be happy to share :)

[Greg-J]

I think some sort of green incentive would be encouraging. After all if someone gives out 10 reds and 500 greens do they really deserve to get docked ten rep? Or when you look at the context do you see someone who deserves a reward for trying to be a part of the community?

Perhaps for every 25 greens you give, you get a "free" red, one that doesn't cost you rep.

Not a bad idea at all.

[Cristian Mezei]

You people are taking this rep thing way to far, IMHO, and putting so much developing time into it, would just be silly.

It would better be invested in the Keyword tracker, or anywhere else. Like Shawn going out to get some boobs.

[Michael_Goldman]

well, now we'll have to pay for fun...

[devin]

oh. it scared me to see my points dropped all of a sudden. :D

[Michael_Goldman]

oh. it scared me to see my points dropped all of a sudden. :D
hehe mice too, but it was fun :D

[Notting]

I think some sort of green incentive would be encouraging. After all if someone gives out 10 reds and 500 greens do they really deserve to get docked ten rep? Or when you look at the context do you see someone who deserves a reward for trying to be a part of the community?

Perhaps for every 25 greens you give, you get a "free" red, one that doesn't cost you rep.

Good idea.

Otherwise whats going to happen is that the board will get filled up with spam, unintelligent posts etc because nobody wants to red because nobody wants to get a penalty themselves.

It's gonna be like:

You red rep him, no you, - no you!

Etc
Notting

[Michael_Goldman]

I don't care about that -1 point, if I really need to red someone I will.. so beware :D

[Cristian Mezei]

so beware :D

MEeeee .. MEEEEEE.. Please please ...

[Michael_Goldman]

MEeeee .. MEEEEEE.. Please please ...
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Expertu again.

;) :D :p :o

[Notting]

Michael_Goldman,

Thats fair enough when youve got lots of rep, But if you've not then you are never going to give away rep.

Already your repping doesnt caount for as much anyway though.

Notting

[Michael_Goldman]

notting, you got a very cool avatar, but i have no idea what you meant to say there :D

[JuggernautH]

I like this idea very much, because some people just give others red rep withouth any particular reasons.

[sji2671]

Good idea.
Otherwise whats going to happen is that the board will get filled up with spam, unintelligent posts etc because nobody wants to red because nobody wants to get a penalty themselves.


The red triangle at the top right beside a post is what should be used to report spam, giving red rep does not in itself do anything to a spammer who only arrives here to try and get sigs or post links - do you really think a spammer cares about red rep :rolleyes:

Clicking on the red triangle and reporting the spammy posts means they will be flagged to a moderator who can then actual remove the crap if necessary which is a lot more effective against spam than repping,imo.

[Cristian Mezei]

Michael_Goldman,

Thats fair enough when youve got lots of rep, But if you've not then you are never going to give away rep.

Already your repping doesnt caount for as much anyway though.

Notting

"I have to look through the Bad grammer to understandable english conversion book everytime you post something."

My point too.

[Michael_Goldman]

if anyone has Notting-English translater, let me know :D

[Notting]

They sell them on ebay Michael_Goldman!

I think i might go for a surf. See you all later.

Notting

[devin]

do people in the red get affected too? since what they're giving out are greys anyway.

[SEO Guru]

if anyone has Notting-English translater, let me know :D No standard web pages containing all your search terms were found.

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[Cristian Mezei]

It's actually translator. This Michael guy doesn't know jack in english.

[Notting]

Surfs shite.

Exertu that be fighting talk!! lol

Notting

[falco85]

Shawn, thank you very very much for implementing this rule! Now maybe people would think twice before spreading red reps and telling friends to do the same (as it has been happening for me). I really appreciated this!

[SEO Guru]

It's actually translator. This Michael guy doesn't know jack in english.
Both are correct, its just British n American English spelling difference, same as you see in grey/gray n color/colour etc. :)






















Or even if it isnt, who cares.
I fooled ya' :p

[devin]

Both are correct, its just British n American English spelling difference, same as you see in grey/gray n color/colour etc.hmm true. but Surfs shite.

Exertu that be fighting talk!! lolis defintiely not British nor AMerican. has a little smitterin of english, but i can't tell. :D:D

[Nintendo]

You red rep him, no you, - no you!

All we have to do is call fryman!! :D He'll red rep any one!!!! :D He still has a power of around 8 or nine, from post count and how long he's been here!!! :D:D

[Jarodboy]

Can i suggest something?
If someone is banned, the red repped costs should be returned to who gave it...
That way we won't get punished when we red rep a spammer etc etc...

[Cristian Mezei]

Surfs shite.

Exertu that be fighting talk!! lol

Notting

Uhmm.. Frrryyyy ?

[itsme]

Oh, this negative points for red rep is a GREAT idea!!!!!!! :D

I hardly ever give reds unless they totally deserve it, and it's going to make it hard for those who dish out red like it's going out of style...

On a side note, I personally think that it would be even better to get rid of the entire rep system all together. I think the iTrader feature was a fantastic addition for those of us who frequent the marketplace here on the forum... but as far as the rest of the forum is concerned, I don't see how the rep system enhances one's overall experience in the forums.

Anyhow, great idea, keep the retroactive points... that's my vote. :)

[jim]

By the way, when I suggested that people get some red credit for giving out green reps it wasn't so that we can continue red repping spammers (actually I've never done that). I made the suggestion so that we can give red to people who deserve it, even if they aren't spammers.

When I give out red, it's often on the web directory forum. For example there's a thread about good categories for directories. Some people post thoguhtful comments and get green. Other people post "Look at my site" with a link. They get red.

Of course I'll keep giving out red when I feel it's needed, but sometimes I wonder if I'll ever become famous (jim will become famous soon enough)...

[Seiya]

Okay... the reputation cost retroactiveness can't take someone lower than 0 (that's been updated).

The most interesting reputation changes will come another day. ;)

Shawn i just got a question, i lost like 50 points of rep but what it did is turn soime of my recent green reps to red. Is that what it was supposed to do? I mean my last 3 reps were greena nd now they are red. Thats normal? =P (people and dates havent changed) commenth as changed ""Cost" of giving red reputation to someone is -1".

Nice change , i dont remember giving that much reds though Oo

[SumitBahl]

Shawn i just got a question, i lost like 50 points of rep but what it did is turn soime of my recent green reps to red. Is that what it was supposed to do? I mean my last 3 reps were greena nd now they are red. Thats normal? =P (people and dates havent changed) commenth as changed ""Cost" of giving red reputation to someone is -1".

Nice change , i dont remember giving that much reds though Oo

every red you've given recently would show in your account deducting one point, actually the red that is shown in your account is not the rep you received its the red rep you gave to someone in some thread.

Since the system only shows latest 5 reputation recieved, you greens wouldve moved out of that page and red took the place instead.

[williamjack]

Great idea thanks Shwan i was getting Red for no reasons.

[Seiya]

Yeah, but he had 5 dark green and 3 light green - thats like 800+ points.

Man, how could he give THAT much red?

PLUS - He had several reds at one point.... That would mean he gave like 1200 or more red reps!


Damn fryman - dont you like anything? LOL

Let me correct your math. He had 5x1 green light x3 light green (200 pts) so 1100 points.

he went to -5 reds. So he lost 1600 points. He gave out 1600 neg ratings, im sure i was there at one point :p


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thanks submithblah i understand now :D

[Notting]

Can i suggest something?
If someone is banned, the red repped costs should be returned to who gave it...
That way we won't get punished when we red rep a spammer etc etc...

Well suggested! Thats a good idea.

[williamjack]

Yes Sumit You are right each red given to others will cut your 1 point with message "Cost" of giving red reputation to someone is -1

every red you've given recently would show in your account deducting one point, actually the red that is shown in your account is not the rep you received its the red rep you gave to someone in some thread.

Since the system only shows latest 5 reputation recieved, you greens wouldve moved out of that page and red took the place instead.

[SumitBahl]

Let me correct your math. He had 5x1 green light x3 light green (200 pts) so 1100 points.

he went to -5 reds. So he lost 1600 points. He gave out 1600 neg ratings, im sure i was there at one point


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mysql> SELECT COUNT(*) AS Total FROM reputation WHERE whoadded = 756 AND reputation < 0 AND userid != 756;
+-------+
| Total |
+-------+
| 1617 |
+-------+
1 row IN SET (0.01 sec)
fryman gave out a total of 1617 reds in his last 2 years.

thanks submithblah i understand now

That actually is my name, thanx for letting everybody know it. :D :) ;)

[Notting]

fryman gave out a total of 1617 reds in his last 2 years.

What a bastard! lol

(only joking...I'm sure they were all justified:rolleyes: )

[williamjack]

Thats why he losses so many points.1617 is too much
fryman gave out a total of 1617 reds in his last 2 years.

[SEO Guru]

That actually is my name, thanx for letting everybody know it. :D :) ;)
I thought that was Sumit Bahl, and not Submit Hblah :D

[soul-healer]

Nice Move ... I lost 14 Points :) I remeber giving Red Reps to Spammers and 2 time a person use bad language :)

[Nokia999]

fryman you have lost the game :D:D:D

[Notting]

This is a bit shite - if you can only give greys to people, you do more damage to yourself than to a person who genuinely deserves a red rep.

That certainly isn't right.

[SumitBahl]

This is a bit shite - if you can only give greys to people, you do more damage to yourself than to a person who genuinely deserves a red rep.

That certainly isn't right.

I dont think the grey (which actually was intended to be green, but turned grey cause either it was in GC area or the person did not have enough rep power to alter another persons rep) would deduct a point.

[Michael_Goldman]

so lets see who are the mean people on DP, who got affected mostly by this new change? ;)

[soul-healer]

i lose 1 Green box .. short of 11 points . That Green box i love so much :(

[Cristian Mezei]

so lets see who are the mean people on DP, who got affected mostly by this new change? ;)

Uhm ... Fry ? He's like on the verge to become a red :rolleyes:

Minstrel didn't lost a single notch. I guess he never gives reds.

I lost about 50-60 points.

[fsmedia]

I lost enough to bring me down to 1 bar, but I give out red as I see it needed; I'm not mad, but sad that it dropped me from my 194 points. Oh well, I'll build it back up as time goes on.

[SumitBahl]

I lost enough to bring me down to 1 bar, but I give out red as I see it needed; I'm not mad, but sad that it dropped me from my 194 points. Oh well, I'll build it back up as time goes on.

I think you were reduced to a red in the begining, even i dropped from 197 points, just 3 points away from 3 greenies, i lost around 35 points. :);)

[mdvaldosta]

Holy CRAP, Fryman! 5 red blobs...hahahahahaha...You little devil ;)

so that's where all those mysterious reps were coming from :p I went lost about 180 rep points... seems a fair amount. I like the idea, going to be alot fewer newbies complaining of unwarranted reds I think. Won't change my way of giving out reds though, but something to think about before doing it.

[devin]

i lost about 30 too. was *this* close to my third green blob. :)

[ryan_uk]

From what I can see, the time would be better spent on improving itrader and promoting its usage. I've read quite a few posts where people claim they've been ripped off or had some trouble with a seller, but they've not left a negative comment. I guess it's because they're worried about the negative comment they'll get in return.

The only "sale" I've done so far was relating to a thread not in B/S/T, although the deal was done through PM. So, I couldn't leave feedback for that person, didn't seem to be a point starting a thread in B/S/T about it, would be kind of spammy. Maybe this has been discussed before, maybe it's a bad idea, but being able to give itrader feedback on other threads that turned into a business deal would be a good improvement, I think.

Well, my £0.02.

[amitpatel_3001]

Another rep change?
:(:(:(:(

[SEO Guru]

Another rep change?
:(:(:( I can understand why u hate it :p

[amitpatel_3001]

Anyway who cares! :p
Thanks DP

[Michael_Goldman]

Uhm ... Fry ? He's like on the verge to become a red :rolleyes:

Minstrel didn't lost a single notch. I guess he never gives reds.

I lost about 50-60 points.
hey dude I lost about the same too 50-60 points
can I buy you an icecream or something? :D :D

No. You can buy me a car if you really insist though.
i thought britney gave you one already..

[Cristian Mezei]

hey dude I lost about the same too 50-60 points
can I buy you an icecream or something? :D :D

No. You can buy me a car if you really insist though.